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Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: Track_Fanatic on September 29, 2013, 12:47:44 PM

Title: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: Track_Fanatic on September 29, 2013, 12:47:44 PM
My bank just cracked. This is number 6 that have cracked from that plant.  My Storm, Ebi, and Brunswick have never cracked.  I'm so done with their stuff. Wasting hard earned money. Expensive as all hell. Anyone want a 14lb Look?  Single drill. Not cracked. Less than 10 games. I also have a bounty hunter pearl a black and pink Hook. All free just pay for shipping. Doom, if you or sevenpin want them I can meet you guys somewhere.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: sevenpin63 on September 29, 2013, 01:10:16 PM
If your really done with your Global equipment, I always wanted to try a Bounty hunter pearl. Is that 14lb also? or 15lb?

I have a Dirty Look and a Purple Eagle and have had no cracking issues, heck I have never had a ball crack on me.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: vkowalski1970 on September 29, 2013, 01:11:14 PM
Wow. I have a bunch of there stuff along with a whole arsenal of seismic all poured in that plant and have never had any of there stuff crack
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: SVstar34 on September 29, 2013, 01:22:26 PM
can i get pics and shipping to 84790?
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: Track_Fanatic on September 29, 2013, 02:03:55 PM
Sevenpin- All the equipment I have are 14lb. I've only had problems with their stuff. My belief is how thin the shell is. When ET was with them, he explained to me they had done research on this and the thickness doesn't matter. I bought into it. Wanting to believe in their stuff. But I my belief as well as the shop I go to that shell thickness does matter. We compared other equipment to theirs to see the thickness difference and there is a good amount.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: SVstar34 on September 29, 2013, 02:23:58 PM
can i get a pic of the layout on the Look and shipping to 84790?
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: Track_Fanatic on September 29, 2013, 03:06:39 PM
To SVstar34- PM with an email address I can send some pics later tonight.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: Tex on September 29, 2013, 03:53:54 PM
Some of your Storm may be made there too. You just wouldn't know it.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: Track_Fanatic on September 29, 2013, 04:10:27 PM


Some of your Storm may be made there too. You just wouldn't know it.

I know they poured some of their stuff. Only thing is, the shell is thicker than the 900 Global and AMF. Plus the resins they use are Storms, not theirs.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: BobOhio on September 29, 2013, 04:53:30 PM
I bought a Wisdom and it to cracked after about 20 games.
Not sure why, but not trying another one.
Liked that ball on the dry.
Bob
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: SVstar34 on September 29, 2013, 04:56:35 PM
i'm not sure what it is, but I've seen quite a few people post on here about having problems with 900 Global pours. I have an original Bounty that I love and have had for years with no problems
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: bowlingman817 on September 29, 2013, 07:34:32 PM
Dont all companies have at least a 1 year warranty on there eqiupment as long as the ball has not been mistreated example.......  Left in your car overnight from heat or cold. Exotic drillings. Finger inserts ect.....  I have a 900 global look, missing link and amf incinerate along with brunswick revolver , lethal revolver, slingshot and roto grip shatter , rumble. I am not a staffer nor do i just buy one brand. I have never had a ball crack on me from any company. I keep my drillings simple pin above or below the bridge and i dont not use finger inserts. I dont know maybe im one of the lucky ones that this hasnt happened to yet. If you take care of you equipment it will take care of you.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: Track_Fanatic on September 29, 2013, 07:55:47 PM
I've been bowling for over 30 years. Was a PBA member for 20 years.  I know all about taking care of equipment. No exotic drills either.  Yes, grips. Only 1 company I have issues with and it's this one. Been with the same ball driller all these years too. My other equipment is just fine. I've had a creature, creature pearl, bank roll, double clutch pearl, link, and the bank now. They have taken care of me in the past but I still have to pay to re-drill them. I've had them in a temperature controlled environment never below 60 and never above 80. I love throwing money away. Remember, money grows on trees. That's why our country is in the crapper right now. Not the drillers fault. So got to pay him. Rant off. 
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: bowlingman817 on September 29, 2013, 08:12:36 PM
Well it sounds like 900 global/amf is not the right company for you. Just curious to hear where they are cracking at. All in the same spot or diffent.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: Track_Fanatic on September 29, 2013, 08:29:02 PM
From the thumb all the way around the ball to the ring finger on most. The one that just cracked was from the thumb hole all the way around to the static balance hole.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: kidlost2000 on September 29, 2013, 09:00:30 PM
They all crack. I have an undrilled EBI Matrix Conquest crack on the shelf two weeks ago. I have had drilled balls crack with less then 20 games and most of their life sitting in my office.

My brother drills fewer balls then me and has had far more crack then I ever have. I attribute most of it to the glue. I do not use finger inserts, and since going away from them I have only had two crack of 100s.

It will happen with any bowling ball from any manufacture just don't forget that.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: BobOhio on September 29, 2013, 09:09:01 PM
I also take care of my equipment, never left in car, cleaned after every set and on a rack in my office when not on the lane. (66 to 76 degrees)
I rotate all my equipment a half turn every week.
Have had Storm, Roto, EBI, Hammer, VBP and Lane Masters and have never had one crack.
So don't assume that people are not taken care of their equipment. Most bowlers I know take better care of their equipment then anything else they own.
Believe someone mentioned thin shell and that seems like what would be the problem.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: billdozer on September 29, 2013, 09:43:31 PM
Feel bad for ya bro!
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: kidlost2000 on September 29, 2013, 09:55:45 PM
In many HP balls you have the larger cores which causes thinner shells in spots.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: Artimust on September 30, 2013, 02:16:27 AM
So far I had the original Break and S-75 crack from my thumb hole (switch grip) all the way around the back to the finger holes(grips), but this also happened to a Mutant Cell and a Taboo.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: dmonroe814 on September 30, 2013, 04:58:58 AM
I have had balls from almost every manufacturer crack.  Surprisingly none of my really old stuff has cracked.  I have had some crack on the floor of my closet.  some on a rack in the basement.  Read a tip from someone here, and I now wrap all of my balls in saran wrap when I store them for a while.  None have cracked since then.  Seems to provide an extra thermal layer.  Don't really know, but it works.  None in storage have cracked since I Started using Saran Wrap.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: bowlingnut76 on September 30, 2013, 05:18:41 AM
hey bro feel sry for you...just remeber seeing more and more people complaning about thier stuff cracking from this company....storm had issue with this a few years ago if memory serves me right...then it went away very quickly...didnt here about there stuff cracking anymore.....i commend you for putting up with this long as you have....i would of been done after two of them would of cracked on me...the only thing i bought that was 900 global was launtic which got rid of didnt like that ball at all....i throw left handed use 14lb sry wish had the cash for shipping would of like to try one of those.....all the brusnwick, ebi, storm stuff i had never cracked on me....
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: Impending Doom on September 30, 2013, 07:33:32 AM
Man, I'm sorry, bro. I only use 15. PM me where you're getting your stuff done.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: bacon22 on September 30, 2013, 08:03:53 AM
I've never had a global ball crack which is mainly what I have been throwing the last couple years.  I've had a Storm Shift,  a Roto Cell, and most recently a Brunswick Nexxus crack all sitting in climate controlled areas.  Seems like it can happen to any company
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: Impending Doom on September 30, 2013, 12:06:20 PM
Only ones I've had that cracked were plugged and redrilled in the same spot. I don't use grips, but I do use an IT sleeve and don't bevel my fingers.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: LuckyLefty on October 01, 2013, 06:16:31 AM
Most of my stuff that is cracked is AMF, Columbia, or 900 Global.
I've heard almost all of it comes from a San Antonio plant where the humidity leaves the cores uncured, this passed as information on this website.

Surprisingly I have a couple of Storm based stuff cracked or start cracking.
One being a Cell, another being a Triple X Factor, also a Tropic heat started.  Both the Triple X and Tropic I caught at the bridge and stopped with surgery by my pro shop.  Almost all my balls that crack have plug in them, and some drilling into the plug.

My stuff is kept in a blazingly hot garage where I leave a fan on most of them.

Almost none of the fan touched balls ever crack.  Surprisingly I have two AMF Radars that are not under the fan and have had no problems(both first drill).

Brunswicks seem to really hold up.

DonMonroe, I wonder how Saran Wrap would help in a blazingly hot garage?  Then we suffer from tremendous temperature change in the winter from night to day.

BobOhio, could you expand on your half turn idea?

Regards,

Luckylefty

Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: dmonroe814 on October 01, 2013, 12:17:49 PM
Most of my stuff that is cracked is AMF, Columbia, or 900 Global.
I've heard almost all of it comes from a San Antonio plant where the humidity leaves the cores uncured, this passed as information on this website.

Surprisingly I have a couple of Storm based stuff cracked or start cracking.
One being a Cell, another being a Triple X Factor, also a Tropic heat started.  Both the Triple X and Tropic I caught at the bridge and stopped with surgery by my pro shop.  Almost all my balls that crack have plug in them, and some drilling into the plug.

My stuff is kept in a blazingly hot garage where I leave a fan on most of them.

Almost none of the fan touched balls ever crack.  Surprisingly I have two AMF Radars that are not under the fan and have had no problems(both first drill).

Brunswicks seem to really hold up.

DonMonroe, I wonder how Saran Wrap would help in a blazingly hot garage?  Then we suffer from tremendous temperature change in the winter from night to day.

BobOhio, could you expand on your half turn idea?

Regards,

Luckylefty


I didn't say that the saran Wrap will work in extremes like an unheated garage.  But it does seem to work in a closet and in a basement that is about the same temp as the rest of the house.  Didn't mean to confuse anyone.
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: LuckyLefty on October 01, 2013, 12:44:20 PM
I wonder if it's primary purpose is for when a little colder.  That is coming.....hmmmm?

Regards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: Jesse James on October 01, 2013, 03:56:50 PM
My theory is......cracking can happen to really any ball manufacturing company. It seems to especially happen to the latest and greatest, high performance balls.

I believe the main reason is the technology used to create these high polymer, super soft covers, that have diverse, and almost corrugated topography built into them. The companies do this to get the highest friction quotient, science will allow...thus making these tiger paw covers that grab extremely hard.

With so many gaps betwen the hills and valleys of these surfaces, there is bound to be cracking. The various temperatures and climates have too many nooks that it can invade!

P.S. My older balls however do not crack. Obviously their surfaces are smoother and harder. None of my old Zones have cracked!
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: the shadz on October 01, 2013, 11:30:11 PM
4 out of the 7 Global balls I've owned have cracked.  They replaced the first two, but even that like someone else said doesn't end up being free.  The last 2 my messages were ignored.  Like others, I take extreme care of them.  Even drag them in & out of my office on league day so as not to spend 8 hours in the car. 

I cant say its only global though....but their percentage sure is terrible.  Here is my naughty list:

3 Odysseys
Saga
RSP
2 sheer havocs
power swing
big blue pearl
sr 300
2 The nuts
Train
Look
Title: Re: cracking. So done with their stuff!!!
Post by: S-70BreakPearl on October 02, 2013, 01:35:26 AM
I have bought well over 250 ball from 900Global and still have a ton  new in box with no issues what so ever on the new or old 1's and have only had a hand full crack on me over the last 7years. Ive have had only 1 crack on me with out even drilling it  :(  have had the Bounty solid a Pure Hook (the Pure Hook cracked less then a month ago and was never replaced by 900global for only being 5-6 months old if that but have others replaced with in a year of release date ) also the War eagle and a Train crack starting off  from the thumb hole cracking no less then 6". my bank of 900 pearl cracked starting off the ring finger going 4".  Maybe it has something to do with where you are keeping them when your not using them or they are getting to hot or to cold.  Its not very normal for a bowling ball to crack just because.. I feel for you when one does crack, Don't feel like its only happening to you because it's not. I doubt many have had that many crack on them over the years as you have :(.. sorry to hear your not going to throw them any more. good luck with your next brand.