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Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: bowlerdawg on February 16, 2009, 12:34:08 AM
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S-75 says brown compound is used
anybody know what i might use to get the same effect, or should i just add brown food coloring to my polished ?
i got this S-75 used, and i want to know how to get is as close to OOB as possible
im a nerd like that
http://http://900global.com/balls/breaks75
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more then likely it is a 3-m product, go to a auto refinishing store and look at the 3m stuff, different shades for the different grits if not mistaken
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Triggerman
F.O.S Loud, F.O.S. Proud
Lane #1 Baby
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Technical Specifications
Coverstock S75â„¢
Finish: Halfway
1000 grit w/ Brown Compound
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Turtle Wax makes a brown rubbing compound, I'm not sure if that's what 900 is using but I've used it for years. It's a great cleaner, and removes a lot of the lane rash from you ball,...I use a wet sponge and a spinner. The follow up with a damp towel for dry and buff.
http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,4,13
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Jim Ensminger
www.900global.com
There's FIRST, then everything else.
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thanks Jim
im always a little Leary of car products and clogging the pores
any truth to that aspect ?
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sent an E-mail to G900
wait for there response, and post what i've found out
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my personal experience is that rubbing compound is very water soluable,..and will wash/wipe off, and doesn't seem to clog like some wax based polishes. I used the paste type, and I have a liquid one too,..I don't use them near as much as I used to with the popularity and results I get with abralon pads,..but in the old "pad" days I would use them to get a good sheen without using polish...
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Jim Ensminger
www.900global.com
There's FIRST, then everything else.
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yeah i use alot of abralon also, and they do get good results
im not whining in this post, i have the ability to experiment, i just wanted a starting point
know what i mean
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bowlerdawg,
When resin first came around and people asked Brunswick (big back then) how to polish their balls, they always recommended auto rubbing and polishing compounds. I believe they never had wax/silicone in them. Otherwise, car waxes which do have silicone probably would have a hard time sticking to them. Rubbing compounds have always worked on resin balls. In fact, that was the stock finish on the original super ball, the Danger Zone.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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I have talked with Eric on this topic and he told me to use a non-petroleum based automotive compound. The problem is when I went to auto store they told me all the compounds have petroleum, so I just got perfect-it 2 by 3M because it had the least amount and it worked great. It took about 15-20 shots before it came back to life but when it did it was very close to OOB surface.
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polishes i have at my disposal
3m finesse it II
black magic
beans sauce
Valentino
plus all the abralon and scotch bright pads
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I polished it and it went fairly straight. Without trying an automotive compound the closest I would say would be 2000 abralon no polish.
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polishes i have at my disposal
3m finesse it II
black magic
beans sauce
Valentino
plus all the abralon and scotch bright pads
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Storm has a compound that ranges from 360 to I believe 1500, that should do the trick
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That is what I used. I used step 1 to polish it and it was a lot longer than it was OOB and after using 3M perfect-it II. I would say 2000 no polish would be closer than 1000 and Storm step 1 compound. Eric agreed that step 1 wasn't very close.
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Storm has a compound that ranges from 360 to I believe 1500, that should do the trick
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polishes i have at my disposal
3m finesse it II
black magic
beans sauce
Valentino
plus all the abralon and scotch bright pads
Try a Green (600 grit) nylon pad (or 1000 grit Abralon pad) and Snake Oil (non-abrasive)
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a Maroon (320 grit) nylon pad (or 500 grit Abralon pad) and Beans sauce (abrasive)
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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bowlerdawg,
When resin first came around and people asked Brunswick (big back then) how to polish their balls, they always recommended auto rubbing and polishing compounds. I believe they never had wax/silicone in them. Otherwise, car waxes which do have silicone probably would have a hard time sticking to them. Rubbing compounds have always worked on resin balls. In fact, that was the stock finish on the original super ball, the Danger Zone.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Charlest, Have you tried Ruff Buff on this ball?
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jls
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bowlerdawg,
When resin first came around and people asked Brunswick (big back then) how to polish their balls, they always recommended auto rubbing and polishing compounds. I believe they never had wax/silicone in them. Otherwise, car waxes which do have silicone probably would have a hard time sticking to them. Rubbing compounds have always worked on resin balls. In fact, that was the stock finish on the original super ball, the Danger Zone.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Charlest, Have you tried Ruff Buff on this ball?
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jls
On the Danger Zone? or the S75?
Make no difference. No, I haven't. I have tried it on others, though.
It should work and leave less shine than polishes. (Even rubbing compounds leave a degree of shine on balls.)
The trick with such an aggressive compound as Rough Buff is to start at the right base grit level.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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here is the reply from 900G ( Nick )
Jason,
We received your question regarding the Break S75. “Halfway†is our factory finish name for this ball. It means that the ball is sanded to 360 grit then hit with a small amount of “brown compoundâ€. This brown compound is non-petroleum based and is equivalent to 800-1000 grit compound. At this point we are not selling our compound/polishes but recommend similar products such as Storm’s resurfacing compounds and polish.
PS: A detailed step by step process of each one of our factory finishes is located on our website.
http://www.900global.com/tech/FactorySurfaceTextureSandin
Hope this helps!
Nick Siefers
Senior Design Engineer
900 Global, LLC
San Antonio, Texas
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msg sent!
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here is Nicks second response ( im liking this service also )
Jason,
We have not tested black majic, beans sauce, or valetino on our products so I do not have additional information to give you regarding those products. 3M finesse it II will put a higher degree of shine than most other products on the market. So if you use finesse it be sure not to use too much when polishing.
Hit with 360 and then use a light polish.
Nick
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If it's an 800 - 1000 finish, then Valentino's Resurrection is a perfect natural for this. Use it by hand and the finish is 800 grit matte. Use it with a spinner and it's 800 grit plus the lightest of shines.
Resurrection is a refresher for any surfaced resin. It takes almost anything from 400 to P4000 (4000 Abralon) grit to 800 grit and does a nice deep cleaning of the coverstock, its major purpose.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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i got some Valentinos coming, and i will give it shot
thanks for all the input guys