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Title: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: n00dlejester on January 06, 2020, 10:24:15 AM
Hey Global Fam! Happy 2020 - much happiness and healthiness to you all :)

I'm getting an Inception DCT Solid (finally!). I have many questions about this ball compared to others, so I know how to lay it out. In folks experiences, how does this ball compare to


Thank you!
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: jelt2359 on January 07, 2020, 08:51:41 AM
Not sure you're going to get an answer now that our resident expert has left town...

But from what I remember on my DCT Solid, it was a LOT of ball!
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: DanScig on January 07, 2020, 09:11:38 AM
DCT Solid is earlier then a Flux with a slower response to the friction(still strong just not as angular).  It will cover more boards then a flux overall I would say for me it is about 4 stronger.

Compared to an Original Inception it was just more ball.  Back end shapes were similar but the DCT out hooked the Inception by about an arrow and handled heavy oil better for me as it reads the midlane stronger.

Can't give you personal experience on a Halo but my impressions from seeing the halo roll would be, Halo is sharper then a DCT at the backend but total hook between the 2 is almost identical with the Halo maybe a board or so more and that might be more a visual thing because of its quicker response to the friction. 

Dream On is a good foot or so longer on the lane as it is much cleaner up front(cover difference). It is fast response to friction and it would much better when opening a lane up as compared to the DCT.  The dream on would be a good ball down from the DCT once the lane transitions and you need to migrate in. 
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on January 07, 2020, 10:49:47 AM
Not safe to use an IT with those DCT balls IIRC though but probably knew that.
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: n00dlejester on January 07, 2020, 10:53:19 AM
Not sure you're going to get an answer now that our resident expert has left town...

But from what I remember on my DCT Solid, it was a LOT of ball!

Aww, is Doom no longer on BR? Or no longer on 900 staff?
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: n00dlejester on January 07, 2020, 10:56:29 AM
DCT Solid is earlier then a Flux with a slower response to the friction(still strong just not as angular).  It will cover more boards then a flux overall I would say for me it is about 4 stronger.

Compared to an Original Inception it was just more ball.  Back end shapes were similar but the DCT out hooked the Inception by about an arrow and handled heavy oil better for me as it reads the midlane stronger.

Can't give you personal experience on a Halo but my impressions from seeing the halo roll would be, Halo is sharper then a DCT at the backend but total hook between the 2 is almost identical with the Halo maybe a board or so more and that might be more a visual thing because of its quicker response to the friction. 

Dream On is a good foot or so longer on the lane as it is much cleaner up front(cover difference). It is fast response to friction and it would much better when opening a lane up as compared to the DCT.  The dream on would be a good ball down from the DCT once the lane transitions and you need to migrate in. 


This is great info, Dan - thank you. I'm beginning to situate my Nationals arsenal, so I'm thinking about amount of friction generated, responses to friction, and shapes. I want to get cozy with them now so I can either fill a gap/fix a bad choice, and/or get used to them in competition.
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: n00dlejester on January 07, 2020, 10:57:05 AM
Not safe to use an IT with those DCT balls IIRC though but probably knew that.

Good info! I use molds, so I'm good, but good to know if (when) I'm done with it.
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: max revs on January 07, 2020, 07:40:18 PM
DCT Solid is earlier then a Flux with a slower response to the friction(still strong just not as angular).  It will cover more boards then a flux overall I would say for me it is about 4 stronger.

Compared to an Original Inception it was just more ball.  Back end shapes were similar but the DCT out hooked the Inception by about an arrow and handled heavy oil better for me as it reads the midlane stronger.

Can't give you personal experience on a Halo but my impressions from seeing the halo roll would be, Halo is sharper then a DCT at the backend but total hook between the 2 is almost identical with the Halo maybe a board or so more and that might be more a visual thing because of its quicker response to the friction. 

Dream On is a good foot or so longer on the lane as it is much cleaner up front(cover difference). It is fast response to friction and it would much better when opening a lane up as compared to the DCT.  The dream on would be a good ball down from the DCT once the lane transitions and you need to migrate in. 


This is great info, Dan - thank you. I'm beginning to situate my Nationals arsenal, so I'm thinking about amount of friction generated, responses to friction, and shapes. I want to get cozy with them now so I can either fill a gap/fix a bad choice, and/or get used to them in competition.




I used it at Nationals when it first came out and did very well. Read midlane well with nice pop on backend. Very good ball. Wasn't a fan of the pearl version but solid I thought was very solid oil ball
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: Bowlaholic on January 07, 2020, 08:39:20 PM
Wow!  After reading DanScig's comments we may have found the new Doom for 900 Global products.?? 
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: n00dlejester on January 07, 2020, 11:20:21 PM
DCT Solid is earlier then a Flux with a slower response to the friction(still strong just not as angular).  It will cover more boards then a flux overall I would say for me it is about 4 stronger.

Compared to an Original Inception it was just more ball.  Back end shapes were similar but the DCT out hooked the Inception by about an arrow and handled heavy oil better for me as it reads the midlane stronger.

Can't give you personal experience on a Halo but my impressions from seeing the halo roll would be, Halo is sharper then a DCT at the backend but total hook between the 2 is almost identical with the Halo maybe a board or so more and that might be more a visual thing because of its quicker response to the friction. 

Dream On is a good foot or so longer on the lane as it is much cleaner up front(cover difference). It is fast response to friction and it would much better when opening a lane up as compared to the DCT.  The dream on would be a good ball down from the DCT once the lane transitions and you need to migrate in. 


This is great info, Dan - thank you. I'm beginning to situate my Nationals arsenal, so I'm thinking about amount of friction generated, responses to friction, and shapes. I want to get cozy with them now so I can either fill a gap/fix a bad choice, and/or get used to them in competition.




I used it at Nationals when it first came out and did very well. Read midlane well with nice pop on backend. Very good ball. Wasn't a fan of the pearl version but solid I thought was very solid oil ball

This is great to know. I'm excited to get it from my friend to get it up and running!
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: jelt2359 on January 07, 2020, 11:46:08 PM
Yeah mine was also earlier and not as much on the back. I would suggest to drill it long to not let it roll out.

Doom has left 900G, he's now over at Motiv...
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: Impending Doom on January 09, 2020, 01:37:05 PM
Dan is a great guy. His videos always showed a good representation of the actual ball motion and he does know his stuff. And his analysis was spot on.

Btw, lucky. I tried to get one when I signed on, they were just discontinuing them, and had no more, so I got a DCT pearl and On. They're still nib. If you like the solid, let me know and I can get you the pearl for a good price. :)
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: n00dlejester on January 09, 2020, 03:08:23 PM
Dan is a great guy. His videos always showed a good representation of the actual ball motion and he does know his stuff. And his analysis was spot on.

Btw, lucky. I tried to get one when I signed on, they were just discontinuing them, and had no more, so I got a DCT pearl and On. They're still nib. If you like the solid, let me know and I can get you the pearl for a good price. :)

100% noted! 15#? That's one ball I know exactly how I'd lay it out. Once I get tax returns, Uncle Jester may take Uncle Sam's $$ and give you a call!!
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: Impending Doom on January 09, 2020, 03:10:11 PM
Dan is a great guy. His videos always showed a good representation of the actual ball motion and he does know his stuff. And his analysis was spot on.

Btw, lucky. I tried to get one when I signed on, they were just discontinuing them, and had no more, so I got a DCT pearl and On. They're still nib. If you like the solid, let me know and I can get you the pearl for a good price. :)

100% noted! 15#? That's one ball I know exactly how I'd lay it out. Once I get tax returns, Uncle Jester may take Uncle Sam's $$ and give you a call!!

I don't throw man weight. :)
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: S-70BreakPearl on January 11, 2020, 05:35:59 PM
just drilled a new 1 up for a lefty here in Tx  He loves the ball  says its the strongest ball hes ever thrown :)
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: n00dlejester on January 15, 2020, 10:57:07 PM
just drilled a new 1 up for a lefty here in Tx  He loves the ball  says its the strongest ball hes ever thrown :)

This is excellent news! Just what the doctor ordered.
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: rackattack on February 05, 2020, 03:26:54 PM
You can use removable thumb with pin up drills but not pin down.
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on February 05, 2020, 03:43:22 PM
You can use removable thumb with pin up drills but not pin down.

That makes sense.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Inception DCT Solid vs. Everything
Post by: n00dlejester on February 05, 2020, 03:59:35 PM
Update on my side, I finally dropped this bad boy off with the PSO to be plugged and drilled up. The layout on the ball is pretty solid for what I'm looking for - 50 x 5 x 30. This puts the pin up, about 1 inch above my ring finger. I should have it Saturday for some practice tosses.

I'll be comparing it to my Halo, Flux, and Dream On. I'll try to grab some video once I do compare.