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Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: Luke Rosdahl on June 28, 2017, 11:39:21 AM
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A video for the Inception DCT by my friend/co-worker and 900 Regional Staffer Rob Wagner. Thanks for watching!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mecAbpfQ0WI
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Luke your videos are very informative.I was disappointed when I see there is no commentary.I know your are a Storm/Roto guy.The guy in the video throws the balls great.I watched all three new releases for 900.The Covert ops has my eye.I have a Black Ops and curious how much stronger the Covert is.Throw in some commentary for these from the bowler.I think we need some videos for 900 Global like the ones you do for Storm/Roto.You do a great job.Thanks
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Yeap, too much of a conflict of interest for me to comment, possibly even to upload them to my channel, but at least there's ball reaction to watch . .
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Start a channel for Rob.Let him give his opinions on the balls.You can tutor him on how its done.We need a good 900 Global reviewer that's not biased.That's what I like about your reviews.If its not a good match up for your game you say it.
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Rob would be a good reviewer, he's a no nonsense or BS guy too, he's just got way too much on his plate right now. Just finished college, just started an internship, has a 6 month old baby with his wife, still works a few hours every evening in our Lawrence shop, etc.
Start a channel for Rob.Let him give his opinions on the balls.You can tutor him on how its done.We need a good 900 Global reviewer that's not biased.That's what I like about your reviews.If its not a good match up for your game you say it.
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Another ball that strikes on every shot ....... go figure
Must be the ball of the year !
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And I bet if it didn't strike every shot you'd say it was hot garbage ....... go figure.
Another ball that strikes on every shot ....... go figure
Must be the ball of the year !
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There's always me! #sendmeballs
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Perception is rarely reality
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So you edit out all the non strike shots to make the ball out to be something it's not ?
See my previous post
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I'll be honest. The DCT was exciting at first for me, but I'm choosing a Covert and HB over the DCT. The best high end assym I've drilled in years is my Dream On. Only in case of extreme oil do I need to pull out my Incinerate, and within 6 frames I can ball down with confidence because that ball has a built in lane stripper.
The Redux looks less than impressive, and I think this might be too much cover and core together. If you will watch all 3 videos, you will see the HB covering the most boards, with the Covert being the second. Proven cores with good covers always win.
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So you can get a good read on ball reaction from poorly thrown shots? On my personal reviews I'm adding a segment on the end where I shot misses and talk about where the ball tends to be more forgiving, but it's all highly subjective. The idea is to show how the ball reacts when thrown well because that's the idea right? Throwing it well? If I dump one an arrow right, why should I add that shot? Is it the ball's fault I missed? Is recovering or bailing you out of a miss an attribute of the ball or the lane condition? If ideal ball reaction is featured, it's easier to get a read on what the ball actually does rather than seeing a ton of bad shots thrown in there having the ball react differently on every one in response to what you did or didn't do. There are reasons for how things are done in videos, and it's definitely not to pull the wool over everyone's eyes and mislead them into thinking it's epic and never misses and that they need it no matter what, that's what the commentary on my reviews is for, to give you information to let YOU decide whether you need the ball or not, while I try to show and reinforce the ball reaction. You're a little too jaded and negative man.
So what would you like to see out of a ball video? What would you consider impartial and objective? Watch my Timeless video and tell me what you think. I thought it was ass and I said so and showed why. I'm not gonna bag on a ball if it doesn't deserve it though.
So you edit out all the non strike shots to make the ball out to be something it's not ?
See my previous post
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Yeap, too much of a conflict of interest for me to comment, possibly even to upload them to my channel, but at least there's ball reaction to watch . .
I noticed that you snuck the Storm "bolt" logo into the bottom right hand corner. ;)
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For me personally (which I am probably the minority) I like to see a ball being rolled on 3 different sport patterns. A long,short and medium length pattern. Show people where a ball can shine, and where it's not meant for .You will also need a few different styles of release to help accomplish this. Throwing a ball on a house shot, editing out all the non-strike shots only leads to one thing.
That's a biased opinion from you to help sell a ball to the masses. Throw in all the typical catch words and phases and you have "Another junk review from just another staffer to sell sh*t"
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For me personally (which I am probably the minority) I like to see a ball being rolled on 3 different sport patterns. A long,short and medium length pattern. Show people where a ball can shine, and where it's not meant for .You will also need a few different styles of release to help accomplish this. Throwing a ball on a house shot, editing out all the non-strike shots only leads to one thing.
That's a biased opinion from you to help sell a ball to the masses. Throw in all the typical catch words and phases and you have "Another junk review from just another staffer to sell sh*t"
I agree, that would be nice. Can you direct me to someone who does all of what you described in their videos?
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I believe but not totally positive, ballreviews canada does such thing. Maybe others on here can confirm or give the proper information to one
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That guy was good. Too bad he hasn't made a video in 3 years.
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I know there's others, just can't come up with a name or site to visit. Someone will chime in with a link
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I'll be honest, I watch an embarrassing amount of videos that have bowling balls in them, and I can't say I've ever seen one like you're describing. Misses, 3 patterns, pluses and minuses. Britton did 2 videos once upon a time, house shot and sport shot, but he stopped. Tamerbowling is the closest I've seen to a subjective video, and there's only one condition. There's no money to be made in it, so why bother?
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Why can nobody just be glad we do have a few guys that aren't so biased.It can't be an easy task getting the centers to put out one shot for a video other than house shots.Where I am at you mention putting out a sport pattern of any kind the lazy ass mechanics get pissed.They want to do as little as possible.I am sure its not a fun thing.Thanks Luke and Tamer.Two of the best reviewers we have.
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Any kind of advertisement for anything shows the ideal intent or desired result provided you're using the product properly. I had more written, but it came off as combative, and that's not what I'm about. Videos are already pretty subjective, and the more specifics or particulars you have, the more confusing or subjective it can get. I have a lot of reasons why I do what I do, and don't do what I don't do. I'd ask that you view several of my reviews and read my interactions in the comments, and hope that you get my angle a little better. Talking something up just to sell the "latest and greatest" whether it's what you want or need isn't good for me or the company. I'm a bowler first, a pro shop mindset second, and a company rep third. I try to make videos that I as a consumer would want to see, and I'm with you on disliking the typical staffer hype. Just trying to say I'm not that guy man.
For me personally (which I am probably the minority) I like to see a ball being rolled on 3 different sport patterns. A long,short and medium length pattern. Show people where a ball can shine, and where it's not meant for .You will also need a few different styles of release to help accomplish this. Throwing a ball on a house shot, editing out all the non-strike shots only leads to one thing.
That's a biased opinion from you to help sell a ball to the masses. Throw in all the typical catch words and phases and you have "Another junk review from just another staffer to sell sh*t"
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The last thing I want to see is a ball NOT designed for a particular pattern rolled on that pattern. Hummm, I wonder what would happen if I threw the DCT on a 32 foot sport pattern? Let's waste a bunch of time, effort and energy showing what a ball is NOT designed to do. Knucklehead...
Just show me pure shots that hit the intended target at the arrows and downlane. If it strikes, so be it. I really don't care. I want to see the layout and how the ball behaves through the different phases. All of which Luke does.
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Tell me this is a typical staffer hype video . . I can tell you I didn't like anything about the way the Timeless was presented or marketed or Diandra saying everyone and dogs and cats and chickens needed to drill one. It didn't get me in hot water like I kind of thought it would, but I'm sure this isn't exactly the type of thing they want to see for this massive of a release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOmffx9lsUs
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#watermark #subtomychannel #marketing #lolz
Yeap, too much of a conflict of interest for me to comment, possibly even to upload them to my channel, but at least there's ball reaction to watch . .
I noticed that you snuck the Storm "bolt" logo into the bottom right hand corner. ;)
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Why can nobody just be glad we do have a few guys that aren't so biased.It can't be an easy task getting the centers to put out one shot for a video other than house shots.Where I am at you mention putting out a sport pattern of any kind the lazy ass mechanics get pissed.They want to do as little as possible.I am sure its not a fun thing.Thanks Luke and Tamer.Two of the best reviewers we have.
I feel the same way, and have thanked them cause then constantly.
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If you can't judge a ball by what you see, and by that I mean how the ball reads the friction and goes thru the pins, then maybe you need to learn how to subjectively watch ball reviews without the marketing pitch. Find a bowler that has a similar game and judge.
I'll say I'm not impressed by the last 2 Inceptions. The Redux looks like a turd of a ball reaction, and while the DCT looks good, it doesn't make me want to run out and get 1. The Covert doesn't shock me, but I've been throwing that same weight block coming up on 10 years, so the motion doesn't SHOCK me.
HB is shocking to me. I will have one in the bag, along with a Covert. Not buying a break cored ball is just a bad idea.
Luke is the best staff reviewer this side of Riggs. He may not sell EVERY ball, but I know that if I wanted the straight shit on a Storm ball, he's not going to lie. THAT'S a valuable staffer.
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That guy was good. Too bad he hasn't made a video in 3 years.
He has pretty much given up bowling, unfortunately. He lives where I do. He was one of the city's best and made Team Canada at times. A lot of good bowlers from here. Some went on tour - probably most recognizable (at least recent) was Dan MacLelland. Some who have made Team Canada (or the B team, senior, junior...). And some who just never bothered to take it to a higher level, but very well could have.