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crankncrash

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Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« on: November 22, 2008, 04:27:15 PM »
Hey guys, I have been looking at my scores, looking at my style, and looking at wtf went wrong.  I was averaging over 20 pins higher 5 years ago before I developed more hand and had to start swinging the ball on most shots.  I can do it, but I'm not as good as I was going up the boards.  I think I would be better served to move back right, not hit the ball AS much and be able to get to my comfort zone of 18 to 5 and be happy.  I need something that will give me that look again.  My all time favorite ball was essentially what has become the avalanche pearl now I guess, but the X zone te2, a pearl ball that I could get a consistant read out of at the break with easy enough length and a nice hard arc.  I scored my first 600,700, 279,288, 290 all with it, then I sold it as I went to a lighter ball. Needless to say I would like that reaction back, so I should probably go with the avalanch pearl, but the Breaks and the success I had with dynothane in the past bring me here.  From what I have seen the BP is very angular off the point and looks to be a little more ball than I need.  Is it possible to drill it to make it tamer and more in control, or should I scrap the idea and just get something weaker? I want something that most people (I feel anyway) would use on a lighter shot. I would like to be able to walk into the ths bull crap and dominate like I once could by getting in just deeper than the fluffers, bouncing it ever so slightly and demolish the rack while listening to everybody on the pair complain about how they can't carry the corners (sorry another annoyance to me.. if you aren't carrying MOVE).  The way I would LIKE to get back to throwing is initial ball speed of 15.5-16.5, 300rpms, stand 30, arrows at ~18, break pt 7-5, back with a sweeping arc with my high track style that prevents me from generating the legth I sometimes crave.  What I DON'T want, is an over under machine, or anything near as strong as my total NV, thats more than I need. I go up from there with the cell and I will add something over the top of that for real oil, I have a redzone that fits under the NV but is not exactly consistant for me, when its good its great, but the opposite is true too.  I want to replace the redzone with a bench mark type ( I used to have a vapor zone drilled mild with 4000 finish that fit the bill, lost due to weight) and add something really weak but semi angular below that for dries.  Is the break pearl a good idea for the benchmark or am I misfiring here a little?  Should I look at the creature instead?  Or something from AMF or any suggestion would be fine.  Thanks to you that read my book, and more thanks to those who chime in.

 

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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2008, 12:30:54 AM »
AMF Heist and as a bonus they are cheap right now.

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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2008, 01:13:43 AM »
Is your Break Pearl at box finish?

If so, you can take it down to something around 1000 - 2000 abralon and it will smooth the ball out at the break point. You won't lose hardly any length and should eliminate your over/under issues.

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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2008, 01:48:42 AM »
According to everything you wrote, why buy a Break Pearl when you need the ball reaction of a Creature or a Creature Pearl?
(I don't know if you specifically need a Creature, but it's the type of ball you probably should be getting.)

Yes, with drilling and surface, you could probably weaken the BP's coverstock and the core to the extent that you'd get the C/CP's ball reaction. But it would/could be a trial and error process that might require a re-drilling, when the ball you seem to need is in front of you and needs little in the way of modifcation.

Straighter is, has been, and, more than likely, will remain greater, as you surmise in your summary above.

Use surface and core when you need to, not when your ego tells you want to. We all get into this need/want dilemma, once in a while.
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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2008, 08:24:39 AM »
The Break Pearl can be tamed if you want something stronger than the Creature line. My Rico'd Break Pearl is still strong, but not overly flippy. To take it one step further, you can scuff the polish off a bit for even more control.

Having said all of this, it sounds like you are trying to get into something more along the lines of a Creature. I put a light polish on my Creature solid, and it is a wonderful piece.
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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2008, 08:25:47 AM »
drill one up rico layout i did with mine very smooth not as flippy as the other one i had

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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2008, 08:41:16 AM »
The Break pearl comes incredibly shiny OOB but after use it will dull down some due to wear.

Anyways this ball is super versatile for me depending on my release it can roll smooth and arc, or skid and flip.  Mine is drilled pin over ring finger with the MB 1"-ish right of the thumb.

You're not me but I didn't have much luck with the Creature solid.  I've tried various surface adjustments and it was just over under. (800 sanded, 800 with polish, 2000 with polish)  So I'd also agree with the Creature pearl if you don't buy a Break pearl.
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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2008, 09:14:02 AM »
drill the BP with the pin down as opposed to up that will mellow it out a bit, then maybe add some surface get it rolling in oil so the reaction is smoother.
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crankncrash

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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2008, 09:19:02 AM »
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According to everything you wrote, why buy a Break Pearl when you need the ball reaction of a Creature or a Creature Pearl?
(I don't know if you specifically need a Creature, but it's the type of ball you probably should be getting.)

Yes, with drilling and surface, you could probably weaken the BP's coverstock and the core to the extent that you'd get the C/CP's ball reaction. But it would/could be a trial and error process that might require a re-drilling, when the ball you seem to need is in front of you and needs little in the way of modifcation.

Straighter is, has been, and, more than likely, will remain greater, as you surmise in your summary above.

Use surface and core when you need to, not when your ego tells you want to. We all get into this need/want dilemma, once in a while.
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Stop making sence! I was actually looking at the creature pearl, but I like orange so I got to thinking about the BP, haha.  Bad excuse I know.  It sounds to me like I might be doing what I want to slap others for, drill a piece thats not intended for what I want and being bummed when it doesn't do what I want. The creature line up sounds pretty good.

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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2008, 09:55:03 AM »
I have a prison break pearl, which is just an overseas version of the BP, I drilled it with the pin under my ring and the MB closer to the VAL(I think it was a 4.5 by 4 if I remember right). Its not skid-flip at all, it actually has a mid lane read and still has good move off the dry. I usually start stnading on the center dot and aim at 2nd arrow and just move in from there. Generally end up at the next dot to the left and just inside or at the 3rd arrow by the end of the night. 38' christmas tree THS.

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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2008, 10:57:19 AM »
crankncrash,

I have seen A_P_K use his BP and it can be a great ball, AS LONG AS ALL THE BOARDS YOU ARE COVERING ARE clean. That is the only problem I see with it. Pin under drillings will be more controllable, but not the controllable that I think you're looking for. They still hook a ton.

From what you've said, you've had that and have only seen your average drop. We're not all PBA quality or even very good house pattern quality. Some of us do need a sense of control. You were doing good before. Try one or two control (read: smaller hooking) balls that still handle the oil amount on which you're bowling. Target your strengths, not your weaknesses. We all want to conquer our weaknesses, but how many low average years can you endure?
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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2008, 09:21:02 PM »
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crankncrash,

I have seen A_P_K use his BP and it can be a great ball, AS LONG AS ALL THE BOARDS YOU ARE COVERING ARE clean. That is the only problem I see with it. Pin under drillings will be more controllable, but not the controllable that I think you're looking for. They still hook a ton.

From what you've said, you've had that and have only seen your average drop. We're not all PBA quality or even very good house pattern quality. Some of us do need a sense of control. You were doing good before. Try one or two control (read: smaller hooking) balls that still handle the oil amount on which you're bowling. Target your strengths, not your weaknesses. We all want to conquer our weaknesses, but how many low average years can you endure?
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You have hit it on the head, I want to target my strengths again. I know I need something less aggressive.  I worked so hard to get more rotation, and honestly it got me nothing but headaches.  I hurt my wrist trying to get the rotation before, now its less pain to get more rotation, figure that out haha, but I still don't like having to wheel the lane.  I can and often do just circle the lane to score, which isn't so bad, but my "normal" shot leads me to laying the ball down much deeper than I want to and I'm not doing a good job projecting the ball to my break point that way.  I want to get more squared up and just go back to letting the ball go and do the work for me.  I think I will grab either a creature pearl, or maybe just get an avalanche pearl, though I think the creature might be a little more powerful at the pocket.  I will drill it fairly weak and let the ball do its job.   Thanks for all the help guys and to those of you that took the time to shoot off pms as well.

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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2008, 11:20:48 AM »
crankncrash...pls let us know how the Creature Pearl works out for you.
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Re: Is there anyway to control a break pearl?
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2008, 08:46:45 PM »
I will once i get one found and punched up