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MJS73

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Motiv Blue Tank
« on: January 31, 2022, 07:35:37 AM »
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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2022, 12:48:18 AM »
MCP - So this must be another micro cell polymer ball
very excited for this one.

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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2022, 06:25:36 AM »
MCP - So this must be another micro cell polymer ball
very excited for this one.

Its too bad Wesley Low's look on the telecast with this ball was awful.  Didnt do the ball any justice.
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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2022, 09:46:35 AM »
Ok, is this ball Microcell or urethane? I've seen/heard conflicting info.

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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2022, 10:02:26 AM »
Everything I’ve seen says “MCP” for the cover. MCP is short for MicroCell Polymer- which is the same base cover as the Covert, Tank, and Desert and is not urethane.

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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2022, 10:21:22 AM »
Everything I’ve seen says “MCP” for the cover. MCP is short for MicroCell Polymer- which is the same base cover as the Covert, Tank, and Desert and is not urethane.

According to a local staffer (who I personally didn't talk to yet - I will see him tonight or I can FB message him) it's urethane. A mutual friend that I bowl with on tuesdays told me he said this.

Then there is this: https://www.bowlersmart.com/product/motiv-tank-blue-urethane-bowling-ball/ which is where I believe the confusion lies. They mention MCP in the write-up, but it says urethane in multiple spots. I believe the text is just highlighting the change to Microcell and now the need (again) for true urethane.

ETA: Ok, I messaged the staffer and he now says MCP. Says the info was probably changed. But who knows for sure. Bowlersmart mentions both. Another site has it as urethane.
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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2022, 05:55:20 PM »
As a staffer we haven't been told anything on them yet, and the pros that got them at the majors got them in boxes that were plain and just said blue tank, no specs on the boxes.

I'd caution believing what you've heard, and wouldn't expect much public info until the Mythic is released.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2022, 05:57:20 PM by themagician »
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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2022, 06:32:35 PM »
Agreed on nothing official. I hope it’s MCP. So does several of my customers.

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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2022, 09:55:00 AM »
Agreed on nothing official. I hope it’s MCP. So does several of my customers.

I'll likely get one at some point either way. I've owned most of the Tanks. I think my favorite urethane one was the Rebel. Favorite MCP, the Desert. We did discuss it in league last night and it does sound like it's MCP, but I guess we wait and see the official specs.

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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2022, 12:17:38 PM »
Motiv says this about the Tank covers, they call it a special urethane. Is it a hybrid urethane mix? Like my Shadow Ops being a 80% urethane and 20% resin?

The Tank™ series changed forever with the introduction of Microcell Polymer technology. While Microcell Polymer (MCP) is now recognized as the solution for the ball motion gap between reactive resin and urethane, MCP does not replace urethane completely. With that in mind, MOTIV® has been in pursuit of a truly special urethane cover stock that provides adequate traction on modern lane surfaces conditioned with the high volume, high viscosity oil patterns competitive bowlers see so regularly.
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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2022, 08:54:36 AM »
Motiv says this about the Tank covers, they call it a special urethane. Is it a hybrid urethane mix? Like my Shadow Ops being a 80% urethane and 20% resin?

The Tank™ series changed forever with the introduction of Microcell Polymer technology. While Microcell Polymer (MCP) is now recognized as the solution for the ball motion gap between reactive resin and urethane, MCP does not replace urethane completely. With that in mind, MOTIV® has been in pursuit of a truly special urethane cover stock that provides adequate traction on modern lane surfaces conditioned with the high volume, high viscosity oil patterns competitive bowlers see so regularly.

It's that last line that makes it sound like it isn't MCP. Honestly, if its something similar to Shadow Ops, I will be all over it. Regret selling that ball. Based on pics though, it doesn't look like it. Still could be some kind of blend though, like the UC3, Pitch Purple, Badger Infused, etc.

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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2022, 10:00:33 AM »
Motiv says this about the Tank covers, they call it a special urethane. Is it a hybrid urethane mix? Like my Shadow Ops being a 80% urethane and 20% resin?

The Tank™ series changed forever with the introduction of Microcell Polymer technology. While Microcell Polymer (MCP) is now recognized as the solution for the ball motion gap between reactive resin and urethane, MCP does not replace urethane completely. With that in mind, MOTIV® has been in pursuit of a truly special urethane cover stock that provides adequate traction on modern lane surfaces conditioned with the high volume, high viscosity oil patterns competitive bowlers see so regularly.

It's that last line that makes it sound like it isn't MCP. Honestly, if its something similar to Shadow Ops, I will be all over it. Regret selling that ball. Based on pics though, it doesn't look like it. Still could be some kind of blend though, like the UC3, Pitch Purple, Badger Infused, etc.

That description is from the Purple Tank, not the upcoming Blue Tank.
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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2022, 11:26:20 AM »
Motiv says this about the Tank covers, they call it a special urethane. Is it a hybrid urethane mix? Like my Shadow Ops being a 80% urethane and 20% resin?

The Tank™ series changed forever with the introduction of Microcell Polymer technology. While Microcell Polymer (MCP) is now recognized as the solution for the ball motion gap between reactive resin and urethane, MCP does not replace urethane completely. With that in mind, MOTIV® has been in pursuit of a truly special urethane cover stock that provides adequate traction on modern lane surfaces conditioned with the high volume, high viscosity oil patterns competitive bowlers see so regularly.

It's that last line that makes it sound like it isn't MCP. Honestly, if its something similar to Shadow Ops, I will be all over it. Regret selling that ball. Based on pics though, it doesn't look like it. Still could be some kind of blend though, like the UC3, Pitch Purple, Badger Infused, etc.

That description is from the Purple Tank, not the upcoming Blue Tank.

Sorry. That was bowersmart.com description

Here is what bowwwl.com has
Motiv Blue Tank
Motiv Bowling
Release Date Mar 2022
Motiv has not released any information about this ball, but it has been approved by the PBA and seen in action at the Players Championship.

Factory Finish 2000 LSS
Blue Pearl Urethane Coverstock
Type Urethane Pearl
Flux Core
Motiv Flux Core
The Flux weight block has a higher RG to delay ball reaction and create the length needed on light oil patterns.  It also has a very low differential to minimize track flare and provide ball motion control at the backend of the lane.

Core Type Symmetric
16 pounds
RG 2.570
Diff 0.013
15 pounds
RG 2.570
Diff 0.015
14 pounds
RG 2.570
Diff 0.018


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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2022, 11:40:06 AM »
Going back and watching the West region finals with Wesley throwing it, it looks more like a pearl version of the Purple Tank in my eyes rather than a MCP ball (Desert,Blitz,Covert)

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Re: Motiv Blue Tank
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2022, 05:15:31 AM »
Specs:
Ball Cover: Blue Pearl
Cover: Frixion M3 Pearl MCP
Core: Halogen V2
Finish: 1000 LSS
RG: 2.59
Diff: .023
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