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Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: Impending Doom on November 20, 2018, 11:46:47 AM

Title: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 20, 2018, 11:46:47 AM
Hi friends!

I wanted to share with you how my lineup is going to look coming up here soon, give you some reasons why I've chosen what I've chosen and take any questions you may have.

Drum roll please....

From top to bottom

Sumo SE @ 2000, 4*20
Dream On remake @ 2000, 50*5*65
Dream On original @ 4000, 60*5*40
Covert Ops OOB, 50*5*65
Honey Badger Claw OOB, 50*5*65
Honey Badger OOB, 60*5*40
X2 OOB, 4*20
Boost Hybrid OOB, 5*65
Shadow Ops OOB, 45*4*30
After Dark Pearl OOB, 5*65

So, top end of the bag. Why no Continuum or Eon? I usually see very limited use out of big shells. I'd rather sand something that's faster response than use something that may not see the lane how I want to see it.


Covert and no Tactical? For me, I have a preconceived notion on how a Break core should roll and what I like to see out of it. The Covert fits that to a T.

Honey Badger is a no brainier, and the Claw looks like a Hyroad Nano, only better.

X2 because I love my X. It's an absolute tank.

Didn't like how squirrelly my pearl Boost was, no matter the surface.

Shadow Ops, because urethane Break.

After Dark Pearl because I loved my Link and want another motion like it. :)

What does your Global bag look like?
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: SVstar34 on November 20, 2018, 12:07:59 PM
What's your thoughts on the Sumo? So far that seems like the best alternative to the Idol when you factor in the cover strength
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 20, 2018, 12:25:31 PM
What's your thoughts on the Sumo? So far that seems like the best alternative to the Idol when you factor in the cover strength

I have a Darkness and love it, and had an Incinerate and hated it. I'm looking for the Sumo to be the big flaring symmetrical ball in the bag. It's something I think I could use on a longer fresh pattern and be able to use it until I have to jump in and use something with a faster response. The Dream On is excellent for that. I could slot a Respect in there, but I know that I get along well with the On.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: sportcoupe on November 20, 2018, 01:10:08 PM
 Hey Doom,

Which ball would be the Global equivalent to the Storm Code Black?
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 20, 2018, 01:21:08 PM
Hey Doom,

Which ball would be the Global equivalent to the Storm Code Black?

Black Ops. 100%
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Bowlaholic on November 20, 2018, 05:13:48 PM
My 900 Global/AMF bag.

Black Eagle (solid)@2000
Solar Flare (pearl)@4000 (Thanks for this ball Doom)
Boost Cardinal Red Pearl@2000/4000
After Dark (solid)@4000

Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 20, 2018, 05:26:26 PM
My 900 Global/AMF bag.

Black Eagle (solid)@2000
Solar Flare (pearl)@4000 (Thanks for this ball Doom)
Boost Cardinal Red Pearl@2000/4000
After Dark (solid)@4000



I like that bag!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: stormed1 on November 20, 2018, 06:42:56 PM
15#
Respect (original  60x5x30
Protocol 2000 + polish  65x5.5x60
Compass oob  60x4.5x60
Truth Pearl oob 60x4.5x60
Break Down  2k + polish 60x4.5x60
X  60x4.5x60  @2k
Chemical X 4k + polish  60x4.5x60
Boost Hybrid 4k +polish  60x4.5x60
Link  70x4.5x60

14#
Dream On (original)  50x5x60
 Special Ops 2k + polish  60x4.5x30
Drift   60x4.5x30
Shadow ops 60 x 5 30
Will also be adding all 3 Badgers  and both After Darks

 just not sure wheather in 14 or 15. Will be decided after I can return to bowling
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 20, 2018, 08:27:46 PM
15#
Respect (original  60x5x30
Protocol 2000 + polish  65x5.5x60
Compass oob  60x4.5x60
Truth Pearl oob 60x4.5x60
Break Down  2k + polish 60x4.5x60
X  60x4.5x60  @2k
Chemical X 4k + polish  60x4.5x60
Boost Hybrid 4k +polish  60x4.5x60
Link  70x4.5x60

14#
Dream On (original)  50x5x60
 Special Ops 2k + polish  60x4.5x30
Drift   60x4.5x30
Shadow ops 60 x 5 30
Will also be adding all 3 Badgers  and both After Darks

 just not sure wheather in 14 or 15. Will be decided after I can return to bowling

Totally jealous of your Link.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: vadertyme03 on November 21, 2018, 06:31:28 AM
Recently went all in this summer and came away with this:

Badger
Honey Badger
Boost Blue/Black
After Dark Solid

Covers mostly what I see. Have contemplated a Shadow Ops as well.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Bowlaholic on November 21, 2018, 07:13:26 AM
I'm bad Doom.  Forgot to include my Desert Hook for the "toast".
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: stormed1 on November 21, 2018, 08:50:05 AM
I also forgot my Cobra se and King Cobra plus an original urethane Cobra
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 21, 2018, 09:19:42 AM
I'm bad Doom.  Forgot to include my Desert Hook for the "toast".

My Desert Hook is sitting on my rack in the basement awaiting a grip change.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Freddy on November 21, 2018, 09:31:20 AM
Impending Doom, I am getting the Dream On remake next week.  If there a difference between the remake and the original?  I never had the original.  Thanks!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 21, 2018, 10:05:23 AM
Impending Doom, I am getting the Dream On remake next week.  If there a difference between the remake and the original?  I never had the original.  Thanks!

I've heard other people say it's not as strong as the original, but it's still plenty strong.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: 2handedrook12 on November 21, 2018, 10:25:08 AM
The After Darks are so underrated. Seeing a good amount of After Dark Pearls in college bowling for the burn. Definitely thinking about picking one up, but that might have to wait behind a Black Ops.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Freddy on November 21, 2018, 12:03:29 PM
Thanks!!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Juggernaut on November 21, 2018, 01:03:48 PM
 Doom reads a lot, and has seen me post about my lamentations of equipment just being way too strong for me on the conditions I see around here and what I like to do, and has repeatedly tried to get me into something “ weaker”.  He recommended a Shadow Ops.

 Not usually getting along with decent strength asymmetrical cores, I kept putting it off.


 Finally gave in and got my hands on one. First set was 224-234-245-703.   ??? ::)

  Used to use lots of A.M.F. stuff, but never 900G, and hardly ever anything asymm, but already have my order in for a second one of these to go into storage for a backup, just in case. Haven’t had very many balls that made me want a second one enough to buy one, but this one is special, and fits a niche nothing else does for me.

 Thanks Doom.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 21, 2018, 02:29:14 PM
Juggs, I am over the moon that you love the Shadow. Break core with a smooth reacting cover screams what you were looking for.

See, I have extolled the virtures of my company because I'm not just a person who happened into a contract. I'm a person who is privileged to be affiliated with the company I believe in. You need a ball reaction, I can put you in something of ours. If I can't, I'll admit it.

Thanks for taking a chance on 900 Global, Juggs. Here's to hoping you try some more.

(For heavier volumes, Truth Tour.)
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Uncle Meat PT 2 on November 25, 2018, 12:36:43 PM
Older stuff, but still effective
 
Original Inception
Network
Jewel

However looking into scoring the Continuum and the Respect.
 
I bowl once a week down from three, and I don't bowl as many tournaments as I used to.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 25, 2018, 03:21:09 PM
Older stuff, but still effective
 
Original Inception
Network
Jewel

However looking into scoring the Continuum and the Respect.
 
I bowl once a week down from three, and I don't bowl as many tournaments as I used to.

Network is great! I loved mine!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: n00dlejester on November 27, 2018, 09:59:30 AM
I love this post! It's inspired me to spell out my Global pieces. And I'll redact non-Global pieces for the security of all involved =D ;-)


I have two gaps that I'll be filling before Nationals. One is an asym that fits between my Sure Lock and my Inception Pearl that I can put a pin-up layout on. I haven't seen anything that jumps out at me yet - closest has been the DCT Pearl, but that cover seems too strong for what I'm looking for.

The other is a symmetric pearl with a larger core. That might become another Eon for me, since that ball is really good for my style. I like how strong the cover is - makes it a very playable piece on sport patterns.

What do you think. Mr. Doom?
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 27, 2018, 10:10:53 AM
Well, first off, between the Sure Lock and IP, which kind of motion are you looking for? If the DCT Pearl looks too strong (which for a pearl ball, it is very strong and not super responsive off the friction), you COULD do a Dream On with a ton of shine. Even at 4000, I've never had a problem with it getting around the corner from almost anywhere. One of the fastest responses I keep in the bag (Original Dream was just too much for me lol)

Now, for the symmetrical ball, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Sumo SE. Great core, S80 solid, but oob is 1500 polished (ugh). I keep mine at 2000 because I like how much it flares and controls the side to side for me, but you put your Eon drill on it and keep it shiny, I think you'll like it even more than your Eon. Don't count out the AMF entries.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: n00dlejester on November 27, 2018, 01:01:05 PM
Both my SL and IP give me a very nice roll. The SL is a bit smoother off the spot, and a bit less continuous than the IP. The IP is one of the most fun balls I've ever owned - it can turn the corner from anywhere and it shreds racks like I know what I'm doing.

The difference between them is gigantic - literally 7 or 8 boards on the same pattern. I love the shape of pin up asyms, and would love one that's smack in the middle. The SL can handle all the oil down to medium oil; the IP can handle medium oil to no oil. I'm jonesing for a piece that can handle med-heavy oil to med-light oil, that's fairly responsive to friction.

My hesitation for the Dream On (and Continuum for that matter) is my history with hybrid covers has been pretty bad. I have a lot of axis tilt (~20*) and axis rotation (~65*), and I swear it makes hybrids wiggle or roll out, and I hate it!

Thanks for the help, Doom.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: amyers2002 on November 27, 2018, 01:01:20 PM
Well while we're doing Doom's corner lol I had a question. I'm a slower speed bowler not super old 44 but just blessed I guess and I'm thinking of trying out global. I generally prefer weaker balls.


My current bag is a Radical Ridiculous at box finish and a Quantum Black that I've added some surface too and polished. The ridiculous tends to be unresponsive in any oil at all but useable. The Quantum was too much for me OOB but has responded to some use and the surface change.

What would be a good ball for me either ball could be replaced at this point but replacing the quantum which is usually my first out of the bag would be primary. 
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 27, 2018, 01:49:47 PM
Both my SL and IP give me a very nice roll. The SL is a bit smoother off the spot, and a bit less continuous than the IP. The IP is one of the most fun balls I've ever owned - it can turn the corner from anywhere and it shreds racks like I know what I'm doing.

The difference between them is gigantic - literally 7 or 8 boards on the same pattern. I love the shape of pin up asyms, and would love one that's smack in the middle. The SL can handle all the oil down to medium oil; the IP can handle medium oil to no oil. I'm jonesing for a piece that can handle med-heavy oil to med-light oil, that's fairly responsive to friction.

My hesitation for the Dream On (and Continuum for that matter) is my history with hybrid covers has been pretty bad. I have a lot of axis tilt (~20*) and axis rotation (~65*), and I swear it makes hybrids wiggle or roll out, and I hate it!

Thanks for the help, Doom.

Well, with the Continuum, you have to know that the ball is going to be super forward off the friction because of the super high intermediate diff and strong cover. Not a ball you can go super left to right with, IMO.

Now, if you wanna shy away from the On, but you want a stronger ball than the IP, I can't say we have something that fits there exactly. Tactical would be less than the IP, and even though the HB is super sneaky strong, it's not enough. That spot is very niche. If they put a pearl cover on the Continuum core, that MIGHT be what you're looking for, but I'm worried that the intermediate diff will still be too high
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 27, 2018, 01:57:00 PM
Well while we're doing Doom's corner lol I had a question. I'm a slower speed bowler not super old 44 but just blessed I guess and I'm thinking of trying out global. I generally prefer weaker balls.


My current bag is a Radical Ridiculous at box finish and a Quantum Black that I've added some surface too and polished. The ridiculous tends to be unresponsive in any oil at all but useable. The Quantum was too much for me OOB but has responded to some use and the surface change.

What would be a good ball for me either ball could be replaced at this point but replacing the quantum which is usually my first out of the bag would be primary. 

Ok, let me research some Brunswick stuff here...

Which Ridiculous? There's like 4 lol.

As far as the Black Quantum, get a Claw. If you're looking for the ball motion you were trying to get from the Radical ball, go HB.

I'm telling everyone right here, you will see some killer things out of the Claw, and I put my stamp of approval on it.

Also, I'm 41. We're spring chickens, SIR!!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: n00dlejester on November 27, 2018, 02:20:53 PM
Both my SL and IP give me a very nice roll. The SL is a bit smoother off the spot, and a bit less continuous than the IP. The IP is one of the most fun balls I've ever owned - it can turn the corner from anywhere and it shreds racks like I know what I'm doing.

The difference between them is gigantic - literally 7 or 8 boards on the same pattern. I love the shape of pin up asyms, and would love one that's smack in the middle. The SL can handle all the oil down to medium oil; the IP can handle medium oil to no oil. I'm jonesing for a piece that can handle med-heavy oil to med-light oil, that's fairly responsive to friction.

My hesitation for the Dream On (and Continuum for that matter) is my history with hybrid covers has been pretty bad. I have a lot of axis tilt (~20*) and axis rotation (~65*), and I swear it makes hybrids wiggle or roll out, and I hate it!

Thanks for the help, Doom.

Well, with the Continuum, you have to know that the ball is going to be super forward off the friction because of the super high intermediate diff and strong cover. Not a ball you can go super left to right with, IMO.

Now, if you wanna shy away from the On, but you want a stronger ball than the IP, I can't say we have something that fits there exactly. Tactical would be less than the IP, and even though the HB is super sneaky strong, it's not enough. That spot is very niche. If they put a pearl cover on the Continuum core, that MIGHT be what you're looking for, but I'm worried that the intermediate diff will still be too high

Yeah, it's a super niche spot. Unfortunately for me, I fight this thing often. My tilt/rotation, and being speed dominant, exaggerate differences in gear.

What about a Black Ops or a Covert Ops? They're a lower number cover than the IP, but solids vs. a pearl.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 27, 2018, 02:49:24 PM
Both my SL and IP give me a very nice roll. The SL is a bit smoother off the spot, and a bit less continuous than the IP. The IP is one of the most fun balls I've ever owned - it can turn the corner from anywhere and it shreds racks like I know what I'm doing.

The difference between them is gigantic - literally 7 or 8 boards on the same pattern. I love the shape of pin up asyms, and would love one that's smack in the middle. The SL can handle all the oil down to medium oil; the IP can handle medium oil to no oil. I'm jonesing for a piece that can handle med-heavy oil to med-light oil, that's fairly responsive to friction.

My hesitation for the Dream On (and Continuum for that matter) is my history with hybrid covers has been pretty bad. I have a lot of axis tilt (~20*) and axis rotation (~65*), and I swear it makes hybrids wiggle or roll out, and I hate it!

Thanks for the help, Doom.

Well, with the Continuum, you have to know that the ball is going to be super forward off the friction because of the super high intermediate diff and strong cover. Not a ball you can go super left to right with, IMO.

Now, if you wanna shy away from the On, but you want a stronger ball than the IP, I can't say we have something that fits there exactly. Tactical would be less than the IP, and even though the HB is super sneaky strong, it's not enough. That spot is very niche. If they put a pearl cover on the Continuum core, that MIGHT be what you're looking for, but I'm worried that the intermediate diff will still be too high

Yeah, it's a super niche spot. Unfortunately for me, I fight this thing often. My tilt/rotation, and being speed dominant, exaggerate differences in gear.

What about a Black Ops or a Covert Ops? They're a lower number cover than the IP, but solids vs. a pearl.

If you're speed dominant, go Covert, pin down. I personally don't like Break core balls pin up because they're too torquey for me, but I really like 50*5*65 on the Ops, Shadow excluded.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: n00dlejester on November 27, 2018, 03:01:58 PM
Thanks for the help, Doom. I'll definitely investigate!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 27, 2018, 03:32:31 PM
Thanks for the help, Doom. I'll definitely investigate!
Always happy to help, my friend!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 27, 2018, 03:36:46 PM
Recently went all in this summer and came away with this:

Badger
Honey Badger
Boost Blue/Black
After Dark Solid

Covers mostly what I see. Have contemplated a Shadow Ops as well.

How did I miss this message? I love the lineup, but you have a lot of high RG in there. Shadow Ops would be a good complement for when you need a little earlier read and smoother move.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: vadertyme03 on November 28, 2018, 08:03:31 AM
Recently went all in this summer and came away with this:

Badger
Honey Badger
Boost Blue/Black
After Dark Solid

Covers mostly what I see. Have contemplated a Shadow Ops as well.

How did I miss this message? I love the lineup, but you have a lot of high RG in there. Shadow Ops would be a good complement for when you need a little earlier read and smoother move.

I had previously been throwing urethane only and used a more old school "hit up" release which made everything hook and hook early. Been working on getting much cleaner at the bottom. I run into issues where I find shots dry enough to force me pretty deep even with the Boost or After Dark Solid and they just don't corner enough, switch to either Badger and I would have to move even further in way outside of my comfort zone.

Hoping the Shadow Ops would allow me to be little more square than where I tend to end up.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 28, 2018, 08:14:48 AM
Recently went all in this summer and came away with this:

Badger
Honey Badger
Boost Blue/Black
After Dark Solid

Covers mostly what I see. Have contemplated a Shadow Ops as well.

How did I miss this message? I love the lineup, but you have a lot of high RG in there. Shadow Ops would be a good complement for when you need a little earlier read and smoother move.

I had previously been throwing urethane only and used a more old school "hit up" release which made everything hook and hook early. Been working on getting much cleaner at the bottom. I run into issues where I find shots dry enough to force me pretty deep even with the Boost or After Dark Solid and they just don't corner enough, switch to either Badger and I would have to move even further in way outside of my comfort zone.

Hoping the Shadow Ops would allow me to be little more square than where I tend to end up.

Question. Are the heads fried or just lots of bounce off of the friction?
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: vadertyme03 on November 28, 2018, 08:23:38 AM
Recently went all in this summer and came away with this:

Badger
Honey Badger
Boost Blue/Black
After Dark Solid

Covers mostly what I see. Have contemplated a Shadow Ops as well.

How did I miss this message? I love the lineup, but you have a lot of high RG in there. Shadow Ops would be a good complement for when you need a little earlier read and smoother move.

I had previously been throwing urethane only and used a more old school "hit up" release which made everything hook and hook early. Been working on getting much cleaner at the bottom. I run into issues where I find shots dry enough to force me pretty deep even with the Boost or After Dark Solid and they just don't corner enough, switch to either Badger and I would have to move even further in way outside of my comfort zone.

Hoping the Shadow Ops would allow me to be little more square than where I tend to end up.

Question. Are the heads fried or just lots of bounce off of the friction?

Mostly lots of bounce off the friction
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 28, 2018, 08:35:08 AM
Recently went all in this summer and came away with this:

Badger
Honey Badger
Boost Blue/Black
After Dark Solid

Covers mostly what I see. Have contemplated a Shadow Ops as well.

How did I miss this message? I love the lineup, but you have a lot of high RG in there. Shadow Ops would be a good complement for when you need a little earlier read and smoother move.

I had previously been throwing urethane only and used a more old school "hit up" release which made everything hook and hook early. Been working on getting much cleaner at the bottom. I run into issues where I find shots dry enough to force me pretty deep even with the Boost or After Dark Solid and they just don't corner enough, switch to either Badger and I would have to move even further in way outside of my comfort zone.

Hoping the Shadow Ops would allow me to be little more square than where I tend to end up.

Question. Are the heads fried or just lots of bounce off of the friction?

Mostly lots of bounce off the friction

If you have head oil, Shadow Ops. Talk to Juggernaut about it. :)
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Juggernaut on November 28, 2018, 09:29:14 AM
If you have head oil, Shadow Ops. Talk to Juggernaut about it. :)

 Like to throw urethane myself. Have the old “urethane release”, and reactives have never really been my friend.

 Played the Shadow Ops almost exactly like my old school urethane ( Red Pearl Hammer, Black Hammer and Blue Nitro).  It was VERY similar to my old Nitro, with one important difference for me. The Shadow Ops seemed to have that little extra something going through the pins. Watched it kick out the tenpin time after time after time.

 No, it’s not a “miracle ball” that will let you open up the shot and miss your target 4-5 boards and still strike, but it DID give me carry that I hadn’t had with my regular urethane stuff. Miss a board in and it still popped the ten out. Miss a board out, and it recovered just enough to carry the light swishers that my other ball just didn’t do on a regular basis.

 Good ball, at least for me. I’ve already ordered a second as a backup for the future.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: amyers2002 on November 28, 2018, 10:39:00 AM
Well while we're doing Doom's corner lol I had a question. I'm a slower speed bowler not super old 44 but just blessed I guess and I'm thinking of trying out global. I generally prefer weaker balls.


My current bag is a Radical Ridiculous at box finish and a Quantum Black that I've added some surface too and polished. The ridiculous tends to be unresponsive in any oil at all but useable. The Quantum was too much for me OOB but has responded to some use and the surface change.

What would be a good ball for me either ball could be replaced at this point but replacing the quantum which is usually my first out of the bag would be primary. 

Ok, let me research some Brunswick stuff here...

Which Ridiculous? There's like 4 lol.

As far as the Black Quantum, get a Claw. If you're looking for the ball motion you were trying to get from the Radical ball, go HB.

I'm telling everyone right here, you will see some killer things out of the Claw, and I put my stamp of approval on it.

Also, I'm 41. We're spring chickens, SIR!!

It's the original pearl on the ridiculous the blue one.

The Claw seems like a lot of ball for me. I struggled with the black Quantum due to this issue. It's made me a bit gun shy after my experiences with it. I have a friend that uses the honey badger as his main ball and that thing really moves lol
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 28, 2018, 11:08:03 AM
Well while we're doing Doom's corner lol I had a question. I'm a slower speed bowler not super old 44 but just blessed I guess and I'm thinking of trying out global. I generally prefer weaker balls.


My current bag is a Radical Ridiculous at box finish and a Quantum Black that I've added some surface too and polished. The ridiculous tends to be unresponsive in any oil at all but useable. The Quantum was too much for me OOB but has responded to some use and the surface change.

What would be a good ball for me either ball could be replaced at this point but replacing the quantum which is usually my first out of the bag would be primary. 

Ok, let me research some Brunswick stuff here...

Which Ridiculous? There's like 4 lol.

As far as the Black Quantum, get a Claw. If you're looking for the ball motion you were trying to get from the Radical ball, go HB.

I'm telling everyone right here, you will see some killer things out of the Claw, and I put my stamp of approval on it.

Also, I'm 41. We're spring chickens, SIR!!

It's the original pearl on the ridiculous the blue one.

The Claw seems like a lot of ball for me. I struggled with the black Quantum due to this issue. It's made me a bit gun shy after my experiences with it. I have a friend that uses the honey badger as his main ball and that thing really moves lol

Ok, if the Claw seems like too much, then a Boost Solid with about 2000. Should be less than the Quantum, more than the Radical ball.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: amyers2002 on November 28, 2018, 11:22:50 AM
Thanks Doom
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: DP3 on November 28, 2018, 11:33:13 AM
I used the Amazon hack to pick up a Tactical Ops ($74.98), Shadow Ops($88.40), and a Green/Blue Boost ($65.58) for $178.12. I had a $50 gift card to use.

Pearls have been looking amazing in my Wednesday night league which is essentially a second shift league from the afternoon senior league. I can't wait to put holes in something that's not all black or black/blue for once.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 28, 2018, 01:55:43 PM
I used the Amazon hack to pick up a Tactical Ops ($74.98), Shadow Ops($88.40), and a Green/Blue Boost ($65.58) for $178.12. I had a $50 gift card to use.

Pearls have been looking amazing in my Wednesday night league which is essentially a second shift league from the afternoon senior league. I can't wait to put holes in something that's not all black or black/blue for once.

I want to know what you think, bro!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: DP3 on November 30, 2018, 08:18:27 AM
Shadow Ops is way more hook than I thought it would be. The only urethane that I threw a lot of games with was the original Storm Natural. It may not see my Wednesday night league as you need a lot of continuation to get the corners out, but it makes a good spareball as I got a pretty pour that keeps a nice silver patch of silver on my PAP so it's very visually pleasing going down the lane.

The Tactical Ops, I haven't drilled yet, but I did pop off a 669 with the Green/Blue Boost (181 first game). This will be my 3rd Boost. It's the perfect "low end" ball that's not really a low end ball. I love these Medium-High RG value balls as I still have a lot of "Hit Up" with my fingers in the ball and they respond so strong down the lane. They're more predictable than the Cyclones which I had 8 of over the years. It'll be something I'll throw a lot in league this year.

You really can't go wrong with a Boost on anything with defined friction.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 30, 2018, 08:38:18 AM
I feel the same way about the Boost line that I do about the Ops line, just when you see less volume. You could do 3 of these with different layouts and surface preps and have a full bag. I could easily go Covert, Black, and Shadow and cover almost any league shot I see, or do a Boost at 2000, pin below fingers, Boost at 4000, pin 2 inches from pap, and shiny Boost pin up.

A fellow staffer who posts here actually asked me for a layout for a Boost. He's got slower ball speed and really rolls his wrist up behind it, so everything hooks for him. Told him to take a Boost, break the surface, pin 2 inches from the pap. Waiting to hear back.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: DP3 on November 30, 2018, 08:56:23 AM
The Blue/Black Hybrid boost I had when I bowled a season 2 handed went sideways. That one was an old school "label leverage" drill which was probably a 3 3/4" pin to PAP. The Christmas Boost I have is about a 6" pin to PAP with the pin about 2 1/2" above the bridge. Very long, but hits a ton. I only bring this in the bag if I'm going to a tournament that's advertising a short pattern or a pattern where the only look is on the gutter.

Green/Blue (hybrid?) that I have now came at 4000 grit. I hit it with a 3000 pad and didn't lose any angle off the spot. Pin over ring, 5" to my PAP. No x-hole because that's what's destroying the sport ;)

lol
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on November 30, 2018, 09:33:09 AM
Yeah, my pearl drilled 5*35 runs over the 8 pin on the left. 6inch pin? Store all of that energy until it explodes left lol.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: billdozer on December 01, 2018, 02:02:01 AM
Respect
Respect pearl
Breakdown
Black Boost
Honey Badger
Dream

Nib Respect OG
Nib booyah

Doomey what would you add?

I want to add:

hybrid polished boost (hole in lineup)
After dark solid (polished) (hole in lineup)
Eon (cuz I like the respect)
Black ops

I rarely need sanded finished balls unless I'm on sport and want to control the break point, I would like to add a covert if needed.

Yet to add a dream on as I have a RG critical and it's too much ball, I literally have 5 games on it...

What am I missing in your opinion??



Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on December 01, 2018, 08:48:58 AM
Respect
Respect pearl
Breakdown
Black Boost
Honey Badger
Dream

Nib Respect OG
Nib booyah

Doomey what would you add?

I want to add:

hybrid polished boost (hole in lineup)
After dark solid (polished) (hole in lineup)
Eon (cuz I like the respect)
Black ops

I rarely need sanded finished balls unless I'm on sport and want to control the break point, I would like to add a covert if needed.

Yet to add a dream on as I have a RG critical and it's too much ball, I literally have 5 games on it...

What am I missing in your opinion??





Come sit down, Mr Dozer. Let's chat.

You definitely covered a lot of what I would recommend, but I would still slot a Claw in there. If the On looks to be too much, then the Claw would be a level down. Not as much flare and torque, and I feel it would really round out your bag.

You COULD put a Shadow in there and I think it would be better than the Booyah.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: iamone78 on December 01, 2018, 09:49:40 PM
Respect
Respect pearl
Breakdown
Black Boost
Honey Badger
Dream

Nib Respect OG
Nib booyah

Doomey what would you add?

I want to add:

hybrid polished boost (hole in lineup)
After dark solid (polished) (hole in lineup)
Eon (cuz I like the respect)
Black ops

I rarely need sanded finished balls unless I'm on sport and want to control the break point, I would like to add a covert if needed.

Yet to add a dream on as I have a RG critical and it's too much ball, I literally have 5 games on it...

What am I missing in your opinion??





Come sit down, Mr Dozer. Let's chat.

You definitely covered a lot of what I would recommend, but I would still slot a Claw in there. If the On looks to be too much, then the Claw would be a level down. Not as much flare and torque, and I feel it would really round out your bag.

You COULD put a Shadow in there and I think it would be better than the Booyah.

How about a Badger?
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on December 01, 2018, 10:41:25 PM
Respect
Respect pearl
Breakdown
Black Boost
Honey Badger
Dream

Nib Respect OG
Nib booyah

Doomey what would you add?

I want to add:

hybrid polished boost (hole in lineup)
After dark solid (polished) (hole in lineup)
Eon (cuz I like the respect)
Black ops

I rarely need sanded finished balls unless I'm on sport and want to control the break point, I would like to add a covert if needed.

Yet to add a dream on as I have a RG critical and it's too much ball, I literally have 5 games on it...

What am I missing in your opinion??





Come sit down, Mr Dozer. Let's chat.

You definitely covered a lot of what I would recommend, but I would still slot a Claw in there. If the On looks to be too much, then the Claw would be a level down. Not as much flare and torque, and I feel it would really round out your bag.

You COULD put a Shadow in there and I think it would be better than the Booyah.

How about a Badger?

Hans does make a very good point. That would be a excellent ball. Very Hyroadish. I just completely forgot lol.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: TappaKegga on December 08, 2018, 11:21:43 PM
Well, totally rebuilt my arsenal to all 900 Global!  Also, dropped down to 15 lb and new to me using the Vise IT system on all.  Looking forward to seeing what they will do for me!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on December 09, 2018, 08:31:24 AM
Well, totally rebuilt my arsenal to all 900 Global!  Also, dropped down to 15 lb and new to me using the Vise IT system on all.  Looking forward to seeing what they will do for me!

Great start! Be sure to report back and welcome to the family!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: TappaKegga on December 09, 2018, 09:37:41 AM
Well, totally rebuilt my arsenal to all 900 Global!  Also, dropped down to 15 lb and new to me using the Vise IT system on all.  Looking forward to seeing what they will do for me!

Great start! Be sure to report back and welcome to the family!

Thanks Doom!  I appreciate your help (as you see, I did sneak a Honey Badger in there).  Hope I can get my game up enough to fly the banner well!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on December 09, 2018, 09:51:17 AM
Well, totally rebuilt my arsenal to all 900 Global!  Also, dropped down to 15 lb and new to me using the Vise IT system on all.  Looking forward to seeing what they will do for me!

Great start! Be sure to report back and welcome to the family!

Thanks Doom!  I appreciate your help (as you see, I did sneak a Honey Badger in there).  Hope I can get my game up enough to fly the banner well!

Excellent equipment is always a good heads up! If you have any questions or concerns, shoot me a message and I will be happy to help!
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: billdozer on December 09, 2018, 10:52:24 PM
I typically don't need anything sanded, rev dominant and too slow. So if I need some grit, I got my own spinner...

Maybe a claw, one day.

Badger...I don't see the hype the HB got at all....



Respect
Respect pearl
Breakdown
Black Boost
Honey Badger
Dream

Nib Respect OG
Nib booyah

Doomey what would you add?

I want to add:

hybrid polished boost (hole in lineup)
After dark solid (polished) (hole in lineup)
Eon (cuz I like the respect)
Black ops

I rarely need sanded finished balls unless I'm on sport and want to control the break point, I would like to add a covert if needed.

Yet to add a dream on as I have a RG critical and it's too much ball, I literally have 5 games on it...

What am I missing in your opinion??





Come sit down, Mr Dozer. Let's chat.

You definitely covered a lot of what I would recommend, but I would still slot a Claw in there. If the On looks to be too much, then the Claw would be a level down. Not as much flare and torque, and I feel it would really round out your bag.

You COULD put a Shadow in there and I think it would be better than the Booyah.

How about a Badger?

Hans does make a very good point. That would be a excellent ball. Very Hyroadish. I just completely forgot lol.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on December 10, 2018, 08:11:16 AM
I typically don't need anything sanded, rev dominant and too slow. So if I need some grit, I got my own spinner...

Maybe a claw, one day.

Badger...I don't see the hype the HB got at all....



Respect
Respect pearl
Breakdown
Black Boost
Honey Badger
Dream

Nib Respect OG
Nib booyah

Doomey what would you add?

I want to add:

hybrid polished boost (hole in lineup)
After dark solid (polished) (hole in lineup)
Eon (cuz I like the respect)
Black ops

I rarely need sanded finished balls unless I'm on sport and want to control the break point, I would like to add a covert if needed.

Yet to add a dream on as I have a RG critical and it's too much ball, I literally have 5 games on it...

What am I missing in your opinion??





Come sit down, Mr Dozer. Let's chat.

You definitely covered a lot of what I would recommend, but I would still slot a Claw in there. If the On looks to be too much, then the Claw would be a level down. Not as much flare and torque, and I feel it would really round out your bag.

You COULD put a Shadow in there and I think it would be better than the Booyah.

How about a Badger?

Hans does make a very good point. That would be a excellent ball. Very Hyroadish. I just completely forgot lol.

Well, trying to live up to the hype of the Honey Badger would be a monumental task in and of itself. That being said, no other ball in the lineup looks more like the famous Hyroad more than the Badger, so that alone gives merit to trying it.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: jelt2359 on December 10, 2018, 10:42:16 AM
These days I bowl in a really dry alley, so...

Ninja SE Pearl
Solar Flare
After Dark Pearl (pin down)
Encore (neutral pin up)

Would love to slot my Inception Pearl in there somewhere, or even my Booyah, or heck any one of my Ops. But oil's too thin where I bowl
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on December 10, 2018, 11:58:27 AM
These days I bowl in a really dry alley, so...

Ninja SE Pearl
Solar Flare
After Dark Pearl (pin down)
Encore (neutral pin up)

Would love to slot my Inception Pearl in there somewhere, or even my Booyah, or heck any one of my Ops. But oil's too thin where I bowl

I really should find a Ninja SE pearl. I've wanted one for so long.
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: jelt2359 on December 11, 2018, 10:52:27 AM
These days I bowl in a really dry alley, so...

Ninja SE Pearl
Solar Flare
After Dark Pearl (pin down)
Encore (neutral pin up)

Would love to slot my Inception Pearl in there somewhere, or even my Booyah, or heck any one of my Ops. But oil's too thin where I bowl

I really should find a Ninja SE pearl. I've wanted one for so long.

Great ball. Technically too much ball for where I bowl, but it can really go sideways so I use it deep.

Should I go for a boost pearl?
Title: Re: My Global bag (well, more than one bag)
Post by: Impending Doom on December 11, 2018, 10:56:21 AM
These days I bowl in a really dry alley, so...

Ninja SE Pearl
Solar Flare
After Dark Pearl (pin down)
Encore (neutral pin up)

Would love to slot my Inception Pearl in there somewhere, or even my Booyah, or heck any one of my Ops. But oil's too thin where I bowl

I really should find a Ninja SE pearl. I've wanted one for so long.

Great ball. Technically too much ball for where I bowl, but it can really go sideways so I use it deep.

Should I go for a boost pearl?
If you see too little volume for the Ninja SE Pearl, then a Boost is the ticket. More angle than the After Dark, probably slot perfectly between that and the Solar Flare