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Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: 900DJ on January 26, 2013, 05:42:20 PM

Title: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: 900DJ on January 26, 2013, 05:42:20 PM
I have a Train that I absolutely love!  But when the patterns get long or lots of carry down its seems to fall on its face.  I have my Train drilled pin below ring and on medium to med/heavy with clean backends its the best ball I have ever thrown!  So I am looking at several options- Freight Train, War Eagle, DV8 Brutal Nightmare, and Motiv 2Cruel.  Which would better fill the void above my Train?  Or any other ball suggestions as I normally throw 900/AMF but open to any.  Bowl mostly on ths with 16-17mph at the pins and prefer to square up and play more direct but can open up if need be.
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: Impending Doom on January 26, 2013, 05:47:36 PM
Freight Train. War Eagle is a step below the Train.
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: JPbowling151 on January 26, 2013, 05:50:06 PM
I have the Freight Train with the pin below the ring and I think it works great on longer patterns and handles the carrydown pretty well...though I have to tweak the surface prep to an N pad when bowling on the soup. The OOB finish is great for the THS and everything but the extremes. If you loved your Train, you will like the Freight Train for more oil.
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: Impending Doom on January 26, 2013, 05:52:06 PM
N pad? Seriously? Where do you guys find all of this oil? I can't even throw my Train at E pad. Geesh. :)
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: 900DJ on January 26, 2013, 06:02:06 PM
N pad? Seriously? Where do you guys find all of this oil? I can't even throw my Train at E pad. Geesh. :)

Yeah, I don't want to change the Trains surface.  I truly believe this centers guardian machine is jacked!  Tuesday I shoot 730s with the train playing straight down 10 and two days later in the same center this ball would not even start to face the pocket!  Just a week ago (same center) you could play as deep as you wanted with tons of recovery.  So in need of a strong backend ball because this isn't the first time this has happened.
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: JPbowling151 on January 26, 2013, 06:15:42 PM
N pad? Seriously? Where do you guys find all of this oil? I can't even throw my Train at E pad. Geesh. :)

Lol, I only had to use the N Pad once at a center where they didn't strip the backends other than that the E pad oob finish is more than enough!
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: trackfiend on January 26, 2013, 06:23:06 PM
I'm really liking my bullet train it's laid out the same as 1 of my trains and it is a step above i ball down to my train in 1 league and it right now is rolling just as good or better than anything I've ever thrown.
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: 900DJ on January 26, 2013, 06:30:49 PM
I was thinking of the bullet but thought it would be to similar to the original.
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: JPbowling151 on January 26, 2013, 06:44:41 PM
The Bullet has a much stronger cover than the original Train, though the Train has a stronger core than the Bullet looking at the numbers.
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: trackfiend on January 26, 2013, 06:48:58 PM
I thought they used the same core but they may have changed the density of it.
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: JPbowling151 on January 26, 2013, 06:54:43 PM
I thought they used the same core but they may have changed the density of it.


Yes they raised the RG and lowered the Diff on the combustion core.
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: 900DJ on January 26, 2013, 06:57:00 PM
So which ball handles carry down better, freight or bullet?
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: JPbowling151 on January 26, 2013, 07:11:39 PM
So which ball handles carry down better, freight or bullet?

Freight Train
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: Royalh900 on February 18, 2013, 10:04:27 PM
Honestly it  oneness on what look your most comfortable with me on longer pat e end and carry down it depends on the volume.....light long with carry down I'm thinking pin up dirty look pin at 4 inches away mas bias 3inches away small extra hole In the p 2 spot similar lay out on the war eagle will due also ...those shells will not been up but the diff I'd high enough where the last out will give you traction through the carry down .....now if it's long with carry down and heavy  Play straight pin at 3 1/2 cc at 2 pin down pin in and let it roll throw the high hard one trip those 4 pins lol well instill the track goes then go back to the war eagle or dirty look....
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: 900DJ on February 20, 2013, 04:23:57 PM
Honestly it  oneness on what look your most comfortable with me on longer pat e end and carry down it depends on the volume.....light long with carry down I'm thinking pin up dirty look pin at 4 inches away mas bias 3inches away small extra hole In the p 2 spot similar lay out on the war eagle will due also ...those shells will not been up but the diff I'd high enough where the last out will give you traction through the carry down .....now if it's long with carry down and heavy  Play straight pin at 3 1/2 cc at 2 pin down pin in and let it roll throw the high hard one trip those 4 pins lol well instill the track goes then go back to the war eagle or dirty look....

? Think I maybe understand?
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: trackfiend on February 20, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
Royal 9 wtf?
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: Aud300 on February 21, 2013, 01:29:02 AM
The shop I am in is a Pro 900 Global/AMF shop and I would look for the Freight Train as your best answer.
The FT is a Solid with these numbers 15 lb   2.543       0.055
That ball is with an E pad which is roughly 2,500 grit. Added during our demo day a couple of weeks ago with a basic 4 by 4 layout this ball is STRONG.

The Bullet Train is a Pearl and I am not that impressed with it but that's not me.
The BT is has 15 lb   2.553       0.040 so a smidge more lenght and less on the back end. Also it's with a E pad as well and according to the site it computes to 2,500 grit.
So to answer what your looking for the Freight Train is your answer if sticking with 900 Global. The market has some stronger stuff out there like a Motiv Raptor Talon and The Sync but the choice is yours. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: Impending Doom on February 21, 2013, 09:27:11 AM
I can not wait to get my hands on a Freight Train. I would get rid of the nib Train I have sitting behind me to get one.
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: trackfiend on February 21, 2013, 10:28:01 AM
Hey doom whats the pin on that train im very untested in helping you get your freight train :)
Title: Re: Need ball stronger than Train, but which one?
Post by: Impending Doom on February 21, 2013, 10:55:39 AM
15.1 3.5 top 4-4.5 pin