Post by: Big Jake on June 01, 2009, 11:05:50 AM
I am thinking about trying out a 900G ball and the one that I have in mind is the "The Break S75"
It seems that the ball is well liked in here and so I thought I would ask a couple of questions here if y'all don't mind
What I am looking for is a ball to use in a fresh-oil league play so I can start throwing the ball out over around the 3rd/4th arrow out to around the 10/8 board.
I did have a Virtual-Gravity but that ball was, at least for me, a hit-n-miss type of reaction. I am currently throwing Storm and LaneMasters/legends which I love but I have been reading so many good things about 900G that I thought I would give her a go!!
people are saying that the "The Break S75" requires a break in period, please explain what this means. Also, between the "The Break S75" and the "Break Point" which is the more powerful ball?
P.S. is Tekneek the man to get the 900G gear from or is there someone else?
Thanks Jake
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Post by: mmcfarland300 on June 02, 2009, 09:09:14 AM
Post by: LaneHammer20 on June 02, 2009, 10:22:29 AM
Now my next point is this ball is strong, real strong, it was stronger than a stronger dilled dimension that I had, and it is much stronger than a virtual that I have, although the drills are way off so that is hard to compare.
I would go with atleast a 5x4 or 5 1/2 x 4 1/2 with the pin above fingers, if we say you have about 325 revs. That will give you some length with backend pop. You must have oil with the ball, or you can polish it to give it a little more length.
I love this ball already, and picked up a long pin second to try a longer PIN and MB distance with the pin above my fingers.
This ball when used on what it was intended for it is a stellar ball that I wish I ewould have got alot sooner.
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Post by: Jeffrevs on June 02, 2009, 10:28:02 AM
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The Break S75 has a "Soaker" coverstock which basically means it needs to "soak" or absorb oil for it to reach its full potential. The S75 is going to be more "powerfull" than the Break Point. And yes Tekneek is an option but there are a few others that you can find by looking around on here.
No, it means that it soaks up oil and dispurses it. That's what "soaker" stands for, ....
The 'break in' period is a different issue on top of it's definition..
The S75 will be sooner and more effective on more oil, ...the Point will be longer and sharper at the spot (all things being equal)
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Post by: leftyinsnellville on June 02, 2009, 10:30:54 AM
I like 'em both, but if I had to choose between the two I'd choose the S75.
Post by: Big Jake on June 02, 2009, 01:23:30 PM
He was suggesting for me to go the with Break Point and now I am thinking about that one
but what ever I end up with I'm sure I will ove it...stay tuned!
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Post by: Big Jake on June 02, 2009, 02:23:34 PM
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Post by: Big Jake on June 04, 2009, 07:59:49 PM
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Post by: Big Jake on June 06, 2009, 02:34:53 PM
Well, I used my new Break Point last nite in league and I am pretty disappointed in the ball as I found myself crushing the pocket with it ALL through the nite and getting strikes like nobody's business
Hehe, Ok, all kidding aside the ball was freaking fantastic and all I can say is at least for me the ball was perfect. The oil machine was used right before league started so we actually had a really nice shot for a while
and when it came time all I had to do was make small moves to the left (2 and 1) and follow the oil and I was in the pocket always...it was just sick!
Since league started late since it was the first nite of summer league I was tired so of course the nite wouldn't be the same if I didn't have a couple of operator errors to abuse myself with
so I threw splits in the second and third game 10th frames <sigh>. I am pretty sure that I am going to get the BOUNTY also to go along with this wonderful ball so thanks group for your help.
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Post by: Jay on June 09, 2009, 07:45:36 PM
About the Break S75, is the soaker additive actually a good thing in terms of reaction and coverstock life?
Post by: Big Jake on June 10, 2009, 12:16:38 AM
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So how was that Break Point drilled?
About the Break S75, is the soaker additive actually a good thing in terms of reaction and coverstock life?
Hi SD
I have it drilled with a 5x4 layout with the pin just under my ring finger. I'm
so impressed with this ball that I got a 15lb BOUNTY from BUDDIES (the price couldn't be beat)
So in a short while I will probably get the BOUNTY HUNTER from tekneek.
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Post by: jimensminger on June 10, 2009, 07:32:30 AM
looking at your profile, with the pin under your ring finger, wouldn't that be closer to a 4x4,..?
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Post by: A_P_K on June 10, 2009, 07:43:57 AM
The layout I have leaves the pin over the bridge about 1.5" and puts the thumb hole in the MB. I chose to leave the box surface at 1000ab.
Even with this layout and long pin the Bounty is still much more aggressive than anything I own. The good part is it doesn't roll early, it lopes through the front section but finishes very strong. Obviously if it hits dry too early it will make it's move too soon because of it's nature but that's to be expected.
I think you will enjoy your Bounty if you can use it. I find it to be quite versatile for it's conditions, takes to release changes well, and doesn't lose much energy as the lanes transition. (for me at least)
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Post by: Big Jake on June 10, 2009, 09:25:14 AM
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"I have it drilled with a 5x4 layout with the pin just under my ring finger."
looking at your profile, with the pin under your ring finger, wouldn't that be closer to a 4x4,..?
Hi Jim
Well, when I ordered the ball I told my driller to lay it out with a 5x4 it could be 4x4 today when I get home I'll measure it...anyway, the ball is awesome and I am now a 900G believer.
Its kinda funny as my friends who heard about 900G and havent seen them now are asking me questions all night long...its a good thing!
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Post by: tekneek on June 10, 2009, 09:42:19 AM
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Post by: Big Jake on June 10, 2009, 01:42:04 PM
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Bounty good ball, Bounty Hunter better ball !!!
tekneek, is the Bounty Hunter more ball then the Break Point?
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Post by: Jay on June 10, 2009, 06:42:38 PM
About the Bounty Hunter vs. Break Point, I'd say the BH is stronger overall because it's covertsock is S79 and the BP's is S73. I bet the BH has the stronger backend too.
I'm gaining interest in 900G at the moment as well. Not that I'm able to get any new balls right now, but I could see me mixing them up with Storm/Roto for a good arsenal. I'm wondering, would a Link be able to work on the driest of the dry or would there be better options for that since it sounds like the Link is better on light to med/light?
Post by: charlest on June 10, 2009, 08:35:56 PM
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Big Jake, I'd agree with Jim that a pin under your ring finger with your PAP is more like 4" from the PAP. With my PAP of 4 5/8" over x 3/8" up, which is not much further than yours, a pin under my ring finger is around 4 1/4".
About the Bounty Hunter vs. Break Point, I'd say the BH is stronger overall because it's covertsock is S79 and the BP's is S73. I bet the BH has the stronger backend too.
You're making assumptions based solely on what is stated to be the strength of the coverstock.
The BH at S79 means it has a stronger coverstock but also means it requires more oil to work properly (depending on bowler's ball speed and rev rate and etc.) than the BP at S73. On less oil, maybe even as much medium-heavy, the BP is designed to have a lot of backend. The BH is designed to handle heavy oil like the Bounty, with a breakpoint more like the BreakPoint.
On less oil, the Bounty Hunter might look more like the Bounty than the Breakpoint. It might even roll out.
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Post by: jimensminger on June 11, 2009, 06:54:38 AM
It might even roll out on fresh backends, or if the oil is too short, balls with a lot of 'horsepower' can be tempermental, you gotta know when to roll them, and know when to fold them,...
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