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Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: iamone78 on January 07, 2020, 01:51:11 PM
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Please welcome Sean Rash to the 900 Global Team!
#900Global
#PerformanceForYOURGame
#GoGlobal
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Maybe he can afford a new bottom tooth now :)
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"Diaper" Rash
Good luck with that one......
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Sorry, but just about everyone I know at two different centers has reminders of Sean Rash as the author/announcer of "Bottle Bitch"; which did not help the image in a positive way of professional bowling.
Hopefully, Sean is older (he is) and wiser (we'll see). I wish him well at 900 Global.
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But do they remember it because of what he said or because of the way his voice broke? ;D :o
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He's been a prick since YABA, tbh. Unless he respects your bowling ability.
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DP3 hit the nail on the head.
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He's been a prick since YABA, tbh. Unless he respects your bowling ability.
Well I certainly am not that good of a bowler, Sean's been great every time I run into him at State, Nationals or any other random tournament. I'm sure everyone will have different reactions with people, and many may have had bad ones, but Sean's always been great and done a lot of good things for the youth in the area and other charity events. But I respect others opinions, especially those founded on in person interaction
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He's been a prick since YABA, tbh. Unless he respects your bowling ability.
Well I certainly am not that good of a bowler, Sean's been great every time I run into him at State, Nationals or any other random tournament. I'm sure everyone will have different reactions with people, and many may have had bad ones, but Sean's always been great and done a lot of good things for the youth in the area and other charity events. But I respect others opinions, especially those founded on in person interaction
It's his job to be nice to amateurs when he's on the clock as a rep. And he does a good job at that.
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He's been a prick since YABA, tbh. Unless he respects your bowling ability.
Lot of guys like this walking the streets who don’t even own their local 9 pin no tap championship.
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He's been a prick since YABA, tbh. Unless he respects your bowling ability.
Well I certainly am not that good of a bowler, Sean's been great every time I run into him at State, Nationals or any other random tournament. I'm sure everyone will have different reactions with people, and many may have had bad ones, but Sean's always been great and done a lot of good things for the youth in the area and other charity events. But I respect others opinions, especially those founded on in person interaction
It's his job to be nice to amateurs when he's on the clock as a rep. And he does a good job at that.
Again, spot on, if most of you had a clue what your favorite bowlers say about you in the paddock you would no longer be a fan.
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I have a very telling story about how Rash met his wife, but if I blabbed it, it would sound like sour grapes.
Without saying much else, he's a hell of a bowler. Anything other than that... Let's just say I wouldn't go out of my way to meet or speak to him. And he lives 10 minutes away from my work.
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I have a very telling story about how Rash met his wife, but if I blabbed it, it would sound like sour grapes.
Without saying much else, he's a hell of a bowler. Anything other than that... Let's just say I wouldn't go out of my way to meet or speak to him. And he lives 10 minutes away from my work.
Wife's good looking. So there's that I guess lol.
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He's been a prick since YABA, tbh. Unless he respects your bowling ability.
Well I certainly am not that good of a bowler, Sean's been great every time I run into him at State, Nationals or any other random tournament. I'm sure everyone will have different reactions with people, and many may have had bad ones, but Sean's always been great and done a lot of good things for the youth in the area and other charity events. But I respect others opinions, especially those founded on in person interaction
It's his job to be nice to amateurs when he's on the clock as a rep. And he does a good job at that.
Again, spot on, if most of you had a clue what your favorite bowlers say about you in the paddock you would no longer be a fan.
It must be hard to have to deal with unwashed masses after cashing that big four digit prize check most of the pros have to fight tooth and nail for.
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I have a very telling story about how Rash met his wife, but if I blabbed it, it would sound like sour grapes.
Without saying much else, he's a hell of a bowler. Anything other than that... Let's just say I wouldn't go out of my way to meet or speak to him. And he lives 10 minutes away from my work.
Wife's good looking. So there's that I guess lol.
Matter of opinion I guess. I think she is a cute compared to the normal bowling alley options, otherwise, she is kind of a "Plain Jane".
But she is probably has a great personality. :o ;D
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Milo, the term is "bowling hot". Draws a lot of attention in the bowling center, wouldn't get a second look at the Starbucks.
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He's been a prick since YABA, tbh. Unless he respects your bowling ability.
Well I certainly am not that good of a bowler, Sean's been great every time I run into him at State, Nationals or any other random tournament. I'm sure everyone will have different reactions with people, and many may have had bad ones, but Sean's always been great and done a lot of good things for the youth in the area and other charity events. But I respect others opinions, especially those founded on in person interaction
It's his job to be nice to amateurs when he's on the clock as a rep. And he does a good job at that.
Again, spot on, if most of you had a clue what your favorite bowlers say about you in the paddock you would no longer be a fan.
Oh, I can about imagine. Having bowled several Pro-Ams, it always seems like the cordial nature of the pros is forced and disingenuous. Many times, the Pros end up only talking to the other Pros and totally disassociate themselves from the masses, stopping their huddled discussions to either bowl their frame, take a picture, or sign an autograph. I rarely speak to them when bowling Pro-Ams other than to say hello.
Back in the 90's, I smiled, said hello, and nodded to a touring Pro as he was walked by me in the bowling center and you would have thought I had tossed water in his face. He just glared at me and kept going. From that point I try to limit interaction with any Pro I see in any bowling center at any event.
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I assume with chuck stepping back only to major events, that has something to do with people leaving i might be wrong who knows.
I do know rash is a headcase crybaby who needed constant attention and support as evidenced on the lanes and on the truck.
When these guys are bowling the pro am, they dont give a damn about “fans†they have to be cordial or be reprimanded and or fined. Alot of good laughs in the paddocks after these stupid events and even more laughing after someone has a shit block in an actual tournament, god forbid anyone be nice or offer help to someone who poses no threat, but lets all crack on them.
Theres alot that goes on that average bowlers dont know
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I assume with chuck stepping back only to major events, that has something to do with people leaving i might be wrong who knows.
I do know rash is a headcase crybaby who needed constant attention and support as evidenced on the lanes and on the truck.
When these guys are bowling the pro am, they dont give a damn about “fans†they have to be cordial or be reprimanded and or fined. Alot of good laughs in the paddocks after these stupid events and even more laughing after someone has a shit block in an actual tournament, god forbid anyone be nice or offer help to someone who poses no threat, but lets all crack on them.
Theres alot that goes on that average bowlers dont know
So you are saying they are human? ::)
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Milo, the term is "bowling hot". Draws a lot of attention in the bowling center, wouldn't get a second look at the Starbucks.
She’s a terrific person and your synopsis of her is not only wrong, but makes you look like a fool.
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Milo, the term is "bowling hot". Draws a lot of attention in the bowling center, wouldn't get a second look at the Starbucks.
She’s a terrific person and your synopsis of her is not only wrong, but makes you look like a fool.
You forgot to ad; "In my opinion..."
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I think what we have here is a bunch of sour grapes because he left Brunswick and went to 900 Global. I hope the first time he makes a show he bowls against a Brunswick guy and wipes the floor with them.
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No sour grapes here bro. Could care less what anyone throws. Sean is just a straight douche canoe.
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I sure didn't see a lot of complaints about Rash before he moved to 900Global I guess Brunswick didn't offer him enough money.
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I sure didn't see a lot of complaints about Rash before he moved to 900Global I guess Brunswick didn't offer him enough money.
Lol. Then you clearly have not been paying attention. This guy has been a soiled tampon for as long as I can remember. (When I had the pleasure of being in his presence at Wichita St.)
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I sure didn't see a lot of complaints about Rash before he moved to 900Global I guess Brunswick didn't offer him enough money.
Lol. Then you clearly have not been paying attention. This guy has been a soiled tampon for as long as I can remember. (When I had the pleasure of being in his presence at Wichita St.)
Perhaps you could show me some post on this site about Rash in the last 6 months, I don't remember seeing any but I could be wrong.
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There is like 20-30 people that visit this site regularly. You would be hard pressed to find a post about any specific bowler outside of the "and so it begins" thread.
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There is like 20-30 people that visit this site regularly. You would be hard pressed to find a post about any specific bowler outside of the "and so it begins" thread.
I was responding to a post about how soiled and bad that Rash is and said that I had not been paying attention and so I asked the person to show me post about this and he did not respond so I can only come up with the conclusion that they are not on this website, which leads me to believe like I first stated sour grapes because he left Brunswick. Evidently Brunswick thought that Rash was a great asset to their company as he had spent his whole career with them.
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Its not sour grapes with North at least. Already said he would rather quit bowling than use Brunswick stuff so pretty sure not carrying their water. Rash just isn't part of silly season usually which is when things tend to get gossipy on here.
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Milo, the term is "bowling hot". Draws a lot of attention in the bowling center, wouldn't get a second look at the Starbucks.
I'm dying after reading that !!! HAHAHAH :) ( I am in no way suggesting anything about Sean Rash's wife .. ) It's the "bowing hot" term .... I'm still cracking up !!!!
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The more I find out about the whole thing, the more I giggle.
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I think what we have here is a bunch of sour grapes because he left Brunswick and went to 900 Global. I hope the first time he makes a show he bowls against a Brunswick guy and wipes the floor with them.
I don’t need to be an engineer to know that airplanes fly, and I don’t need to be a psychologist to pick out a narcissistic asshole.
I couldn’t care less who he is with, but whoever it is now has a narcissistic asshole on their squad.
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I think what we have here is a bunch of sour grapes because he left Brunswick and went to 900 Global. I hope the first time he makes a show he bowls against a Brunswick guy and wipes the floor with them.
I don’t need to be an engineer to know that airplanes fly, and I don’t need to be a psychologist to pick out a narcissistic asshole.
I couldn’t care less who he is with, but whoever it is now has a narcissistic asshole on their squad.
You like anyone else has a right to your opinion, I think it strange that I have never read on this site the things about Rash but now that he has left Brunswick there is a big uproar. I remember when everyone was not going to buy Brunswick because they moved to Mexico, go figure.
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Pretty good results at the Oklahoma Open, went from #5 to #1 during the show.
What was he throwing? Badger Extreme Solid and Ordnance Pearl?
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The best part was when he made sure to throw shade to urethane saying it should be banned because he admittedly said he sucks with urethane in his hand. Something tells me if he was a right handed Jakob Butturff it would be a different story.
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He's been hot lately for sure but still mildly amused that anyone thought it was breaking news his personality is considered a bit difficult by many regardless of contract status.
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Yeah I understand but as a 900 fan it sure is nice to see the stuff on tv more regularly- especially the newer pieces.
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So did Rash get dumped by Big B.
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Off topic but did anyone else notice how Randy kept making it seem like Ciminelli was kicked off of Motiv? It was as if because of the suspension/misconduct Motiv got rid of him. Wasn’t the way I thought it ended but I have no clue.
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It made my day when Rash destroyed the field, it kind of reminded me of a boy trying to fight a man . I guess he got vindicated changing from Brunswick to 900 Global equipment. Anyone who watched that show had to admit that Rash did a great job.
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Except Rash was crushing it with Brunswick too towards end of last year. Guy has flat been on a tear lately and 900 is getting him at a good time. Bowling like this can pretty much win with anyone's stuff. Haven't really ever seen anyone question his bowling talent. May not think much of him as a person but is getting 900's stuff on TV for sure which is his job so kudos I guess.
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You Rash haters can't stand the fact that he stood head and shoulders above all the other bowlers yesterday. Bottom line Rash won and that's really all that matters when it comes down to who the CHAMPION was yesterday.
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Nice to see Rash proving he still has what it takes to win!
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Not a Rash hater. Just curious whether Brunswick was cutting back since they apparently are bringing the Ebonite staffers over. Maybe Rash was just looking for a better deal than Brunswick was offering. Like I said, curious
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Well it sure enough looks like Rash knew what he was doing and maybe Brunswick is licking its wounds today. The way Rash bowled yesterdat its not going to surprise me if he wins multiple titles this year.
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I know the story, not at library to say it.
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I know the story, not at library to say it.
Where would you need to be to say it? ;D
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Liberty, not library. I am not a Rash fan, in fact I really dislike him as a person "Thinks his sh--, doesn't stink!
However, to be FAIR, I have to say kudos. He bowled great last season and he bowled great to capture the Oklahoma title.
I'm sure we are re-living what many prior saw and felt about PDW. Every new generation has their "Bad Boy of Bowling". Ours is Sean Rash.
Great bowler, but not a guy I want to call my friend!
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I know the story, not at library to say it.
Where would you need to be to say it? ;D
Stupid autocorrect!
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I'm sure we are re-living what many prior saw and felt about PDW. Every new generation has their "Bad Boy of Bowling".
Is PDW still bowling? Have not seen/heard anything about him?
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He bowls league against some of the guys I golf with.
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Difference is PDW from what I understand outside competition is a pretty nice guy (sober at least). Rash well um he is a great bowler.
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I have known a few bad boys over the years. A couple are my friends. Crossed eith Weber once. He was good to cross with, but I have seen him do some things that I didnt care for. Never met or bowled with Rash, just curious what happened, although I suspect I know.
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Oh, I don't know. I appreciate northface28's comment. LOL!!! Geez, this thread has amazing strength---4 pages and counting. Riley, relax a bit. You will live a tad longer.
By the way, the word is "immature."
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Oh, I don't know. I appreciate northface28's comment. LOL!!! Geez, this thread has amazing strength---4 pages and counting. Riley, relax a bit. You will live a tad longer.
By the way, the word is "immature."
I appreciate your spelling correction, I realized it after I had sent it. Maybe you do appreciate his language but I don't and it was not warranted.
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I know the story, not at library to say it.
If you know the story but can’t share it... Why bother saying it? :o
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Liberty, not library. I am not a Rash fan, in fact I really dislike him as a person "Thinks his sh--, doesn't stink!
However, to be FAIR, I have to say kudos. He bowled great last season and he bowled great to capture the Oklahoma title.
I'm sure we are re-living what many prior saw and felt about PDW. Every new generation has their "Bad Boy of Bowling". Ours is Sean Rash.
Great bowler, but not a guy I want to call my friend!
I will share my experiences with Rash and PDW.
My dad and I went to a TOC to watch, oh 11 years ago or so. we had some stuff to try to get autographs on; and we didn't realize that there would be a signing session. so we would get to the lanes early and camp out and ask the bowlers for signatures.
PDW came, he was late and in a hurry and refused our request. He wasn't rude; maybe a bit short. Said , "cant right now, I am late" and kept going. we weren't insulted, we knew we had camped in the pathway to the locker room. when he came back out, he seeked us out, signed all our stuff and apologized for being rude. Fast forward to that evening or next evening; PDW happened to be staying at the same hotel as we did (not where the TOC was). and we ended up in the same bar. we noticed him; didn't say anything. his guests were late and as he scanned room; he saw us and remembered us from the quick meet and greet at the lanes. he came over, sat down, bought a round and chatted with us for 20 minutes until the folks he was waiting on arrived.
PDW was a pretty good dude; friendly and gracious that we were fans. and that was him "off the clock".
at the same event; we went to the restaurant in the lanes for lunch. Rash was in there; he had a table to himself in the middle; and had taped off a one table wide perimeter around himself to keep people away. he used 8 table around the one he sat at (9 total) for lunch to keep people away. why he didn't just go to the locker room for privacy I don't know.
After a few minutes waitress approach to check his water glass and otherwise check in on him, you know with him being a customer and all. Rash, being the class A jerk that he is, yelled at her for disturbing him. How she should know her F'ning place; she knew nobody was supposed to cross the tape he put up, how he wasn't to be bothered by fans, etc.
Rash may be "the bad boy" on the lanes; but he is a complete douche off of them.
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Liberty, not library. I am not a Rash fan, in fact I really dislike him as a person "Thinks his sh--, doesn't stink!
However, to be FAIR, I have to say kudos. He bowled great last season and he bowled great to capture the Oklahoma title.
I'm sure we are re-living what many prior saw and felt about PDW. Every new generation has their "Bad Boy of Bowling". Ours is Sean Rash.
Great bowler, but not a guy I want to call my friend!
I will share my experiences with Rash and PDW.
My dad and I went to a TOC to watch, oh 11 years ago or so. we had some stuff to try to get autographs on; and we didn't realize that there would be a signing session. so we would get to the lanes early and camp out and ask the bowlers for signatures.
PDW came, he was late and in a hurry and refused our request. He wasn't rude; maybe a bit short. Said , "cant right now, I am late" and kept going. we weren't insulted, we knew we had camped in the pathway to the locker room. when he came back out, he seeked us out, signed all our stuff and apologized for being rude. Fast forward to that evening or next evening; PDW happened to be staying at the same hotel as we did (not where the TOC was). and we ended up in the same bar. we noticed him; didn't say anything. his guests were late and as he scanned room; he saw us and remembered us from the quick meet and greet at the lanes. he came over, sat down, bought a round and chatted with us for 20 minutes until the folks he was waiting on arrived.
PDW was a pretty good dude; friendly and gracious that we were fans. and that was him "off the clock".
at the same event; we went to the restaurant in the lanes for lunch. Rash was in there; he had a table to himself in the middle; and had taped off a one table wide perimeter around himself to keep people away. he used 8 table around the one he sat at (9 total) for lunch to keep people away. why he didn't just go to the locker room for privacy I don't know.
After a few minutes waitress approach to check his water glass and otherwise check in on him, you know with him being a customer and all. Rash, being the class A jerk that he is, yelled at her for disturbing him. How she should know her F'ning place; she knew nobody was supposed to cross the tape he put up, how he wasn't to be bothered by fans, etc.
Rash may be "the bad boy" on the lanes; but he is a complete douche off of them.
Delete this, Sean Rash’s boyfriend, Rileybowler, is going to get very upset with you.
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Haha, Northface, you do not hold back when you express your opinion!
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Liberty, not library. I am not a Rash fan, in fact I really dislike him as a person "Thinks his sh--, doesn't stink!
However, to be FAIR, I have to say kudos. He bowled great last season and he bowled great to capture the Oklahoma title.
I'm sure we are re-living what many prior saw and felt about PDW. Every new generation has their "Bad Boy of Bowling". Ours is Sean Rash.
Great bowler, but not a guy I want to call my friend!
I will share my experiences with Rash and PDW.
My dad and I went to a TOC to watch, oh 11 years ago or so. we had some stuff to try to get autographs on; and we didn't realize that there would be a signing session. so we would get to the lanes early and camp out and ask the bowlers for signatures.
PDW came, he was late and in a hurry and refused our request. He wasn't rude; maybe a bit short. Said , "cant right now, I am late" and kept going. we weren't insulted, we knew we had camped in the pathway to the locker room. when he came back out, he seeked us out, signed all our stuff and apologized for being rude. Fast forward to that evening or next evening; PDW happened to be staying at the same hotel as we did (not where the TOC was). and we ended up in the same bar. we noticed him; didn't say anything. his guests were late and as he scanned room; he saw us and remembered us from the quick meet and greet at the lanes. he came over, sat down, bought a round and chatted with us for 20 minutes until the folks he was waiting on arrived.
PDW was a pretty good dude; friendly and gracious that we were fans. and that was him "off the clock".
at the same event; we went to the restaurant in the lanes for lunch. Rash was in there; he had a table to himself in the middle; and had taped off a one table wide perimeter around himself to keep people away. he used 8 table around the one he sat at (9 total) for lunch to keep people away. why he didn't just go to the locker room for privacy I don't know.
After a few minutes waitress approach to check his water glass and otherwise check in on him, you know with him being a customer and all. Rash, being the class A jerk that he is, yelled at her for disturbing him. How she should know her F'ning place; she knew nobody was supposed to cross the tape he put up, how he wasn't to be bothered by fans, etc.
Rash may be "the bad boy" on the lanes; but he is a complete douche off of them.
Delete this, Sean Rash’s boyfriend, Rileybowler, is going to get very upset with you.
People like you like to go to the gutter with your childish words, reminds me of kids talking my daddy can beat your daddy . I'm done with this post . Have a good day.
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Liberty, not library. I am not a Rash fan, in fact I really dislike him as a person "Thinks his sh--, doesn't stink!
However, to be FAIR, I have to say kudos. He bowled great last season and he bowled great to capture the Oklahoma title.
I'm sure we are re-living what many prior saw and felt about PDW. Every new generation has their "Bad Boy of Bowling". Ours is Sean Rash.
Great bowler, but not a guy I want to call my friend!
I will share my experiences with Rash and PDW.
My dad and I went to a TOC to watch, oh 11 years ago or so. we had some stuff to try to get autographs on; and we didn't realize that there would be a signing session. so we would get to the lanes early and camp out and ask the bowlers for signatures.
PDW came, he was late and in a hurry and refused our request. He wasn't rude; maybe a bit short. Said , "cant right now, I am late" and kept going. we weren't insulted, we knew we had camped in the pathway to the locker room. when he came back out, he seeked us out, signed all our stuff and apologized for being rude. Fast forward to that evening or next evening; PDW happened to be staying at the same hotel as we did (not where the TOC was). and we ended up in the same bar. we noticed him; didn't say anything. his guests were late and as he scanned room; he saw us and remembered us from the quick meet and greet at the lanes. he came over, sat down, bought a round and chatted with us for 20 minutes until the folks he was waiting on arrived.
PDW was a pretty good dude; friendly and gracious that we were fans. and that was him "off the clock".
at the same event; we went to the restaurant in the lanes for lunch. Rash was in there; he had a table to himself in the middle; and had taped off a one table wide perimeter around himself to keep people away. he used 8 table around the one he sat at (9 total) for lunch to keep people away. why he didn't just go to the locker room for privacy I don't know.
After a few minutes waitress approach to check his water glass and otherwise check in on him, you know with him being a customer and all. Rash, being the class A jerk that he is, yelled at her for disturbing him. How she should know her F'ning place; she knew nobody was supposed to cross the tape he put up, how he wasn't to be bothered by fans, etc.
Rash may be "the bad boy" on the lanes; but he is a complete douche off of them.
IF this is actually a true story, then someone needs to remind Ass Rash that he is just a bowler, not a rock star.
It's believable as I know a local idiot who won three PBA titles in the late 80's. He is a total dick as a person. I won't put his entire name here, but his first name is Joe, his is left handed and at least at one time, he ran a pro shop in the Sacramento/Roseville/Rocklin area. The interesting part is, I have crossed with him in a few local tournaments and he kinda sucks now. But he still feels like he is an elite bowler and everyone better know it.
I have respect for Pro Bowlers, but some of them need to get over themselves as very few people give a shit.
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Liberty, not library. I am not a Rash fan, in fact I really dislike him as a person "Thinks his sh--, doesn't stink!
However, to be FAIR, I have to say kudos. He bowled great last season and he bowled great to capture the Oklahoma title.
I'm sure we are re-living what many prior saw and felt about PDW. Every new generation has their "Bad Boy of Bowling". Ours is Sean Rash.
Great bowler, but not a guy I want to call my friend!
I will share my experiences with Rash and PDW.
My dad and I went to a TOC to watch, oh 11 years ago or so. we had some stuff to try to get autographs on; and we didn't realize that there would be a signing session. so we would get to the lanes early and camp out and ask the bowlers for signatures.
PDW came, he was late and in a hurry and refused our request. He wasn't rude; maybe a bit short. Said , "cant right now, I am late" and kept going. we weren't insulted, we knew we had camped in the pathway to the locker room. when he came back out, he seeked us out, signed all our stuff and apologized for being rude. Fast forward to that evening or next evening; PDW happened to be staying at the same hotel as we did (not where the TOC was). and we ended up in the same bar. we noticed him; didn't say anything. his guests were late and as he scanned room; he saw us and remembered us from the quick meet and greet at the lanes. he came over, sat down, bought a round and chatted with us for 20 minutes until the folks he was waiting on arrived.
PDW was a pretty good dude; friendly and gracious that we were fans. and that was him "off the clock".
at the same event; we went to the restaurant in the lanes for lunch. Rash was in there; he had a table to himself in the middle; and had taped off a one table wide perimeter around himself to keep people away. he used 8 table around the one he sat at (9 total) for lunch to keep people away. why he didn't just go to the locker room for privacy I don't know.
After a few minutes waitress approach to check his water glass and otherwise check in on him, you know with him being a customer and all. Rash, being the class A jerk that he is, yelled at her for disturbing him. How she should know her F'ning place; she knew nobody was supposed to cross the tape he put up, how he wasn't to be bothered by fans, etc.
Rash may be "the bad boy" on the lanes; but he is a complete douche off of them.
Wow just wow. Pretty much what I have heard. Honestly that is pushing mental illness territory.
(edit: What I heard about PDW as well. Guy has his demons but is not a bad fellow away from competition)
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I can attest to PDW as far as being fan friendly. I have crossed with him twice at local Pro-Ams and the guy could not have been more friendly. He was a lot of fun to bowl with both times.
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Funny how Weber has the bad rep and he’s one of the most down to earth guys out there.
Speaking of bowlers and rockstar status. I remember years ago when the PBA came to Vernon Hills. The amount of local strumpets was crazy. I never knew pro bowlers had groupies. If you want to get your tube steak choked down in your car in the parking lot after a 8 game block, hey, live your life. The problem I have is when these guys (plural) get on tv and act like wholesome, happily married family men when you were just skull banging the local alley rats.
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Funny how Weber has the bad rep and he’s one of the most down to earth guys out there.
Speaking of bowlers and rockstar status. I remember years ago when the PBA came to Vernon Hills. The amount of local strumpets was crazy. I never knew pro bowlers had groupies. If you want to get your tube steak choked down in your car in the parking lot after a 8 game block, hey, live your life. The problem I have is when these guys (plural) get on tv and act like wholesome, happily married family men when you were just skull banging the local alley rats.
Oh so true. A lot of that goes on.......
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Heard especially in the past what a frat party atmosphere it could be. Young man's tour and all that.
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Funny how Weber has the bad rep and he’s one of the most down to earth guys out there.
Speaking of bowlers and rockstar status. I remember years ago when the PBA came to Vernon Hills. The amount of local strumpets was crazy. I never knew pro bowlers had groupies. If you want to get your tube steak choked down in your car in the parking lot after a 8 game block, hey, live your life. The problem I have is when these guys (plural) get on tv and act like wholesome, happily married family men when you were just skull banging the local alley rats.
Ah yes the “tour whoresâ€. BJ or a one night stand for free ball or 2 - no pun intended.
Alot of crazy stories about these folks!!
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Funny how Weber has the bad rep and he’s one of the most down to earth guys out there.
Speaking of bowlers and rockstar status. I remember years ago when the PBA came to Vernon Hills. The amount of local strumpets was crazy. I never knew pro bowlers had groupies. If you want to get your tube steak choked down in your car in the parking lot after a 8 game block, hey, live your life. The problem I have is when these guys (plural) get on tv and act like wholesome, happily married family men when you were just skull banging the local alley rats.
I can't wait to have a beer with you and share Vegas stories. LOL
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Funny how Weber has the bad rep and he’s one of the most down to earth guys out there.
Speaking of bowlers and rockstar status. I remember years ago when the PBA came to Vernon Hills. The amount of local strumpets was crazy. I never knew pro bowlers had groupies. If you want to get your tube steak choked down in your car in the parking lot after a 8 game block, hey, live your life. The problem I have is when these guys (plural) get on tv and act like wholesome, happily married family men when you were just skull banging the local alley rats.
I can't wait to have a beer with you and share Vegas stories. LOL
If I don't get a invite, I'll be terribly upset.
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SLIGHT SPOILER ALERT.
What happened in the step ladders today to your boy? 164 woof. Was it urethane ruining the shot? /s.
(edit: am happy to see 900 get their stuff on TV really am but made a deal with the douche devil and will never ever cheer for this ah gentleman).
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SLIGHT SPOILER ALERT.
What happened in the step ladders today to your boy? 164 woof. Was it urethane ruining the shot? /s.
I did not see any urethane. Rash just made a bad shot. No doubt his fellow staffer Chris Barnes would have sealed the deal in that same situation (last frame).
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SLIGHT SPOILER ALERT.
What happened in the step ladders today to your boy? 164 woof. Was it urethane ruining the shot? /s.
(edit: am happy to see 900 get their stuff on TV really am but made a deal with the douche devil and will never ever cheer for this ah gentleman).
Nobody wins all of them and even Belmo looked like a league spray and pray bowler, even the winner made so many errant shots but he finally got his act together and bowled really great to win.
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Funny how Weber has the bad rep and he’s one of the most down to earth guys out there.
Speaking of bowlers and rockstar status. I remember years ago when the PBA came to Vernon Hills. The amount of local strumpets was crazy. I never knew pro bowlers had groupies. If you want to get your tube steak choked down in your car in the parking lot after a 8 game block, hey, live your life. The problem I have is when these guys (plural) get on tv and act like wholesome, happily married family men when you were just skull banging the local alley rats.
I can buy that Weber May be a fun, down to earth guy off the lanes.
That said, I bowled the squad directly following his at nationals a couple of years ago. We started almost 3 hours late almost entirely due to Weber. The guy expected PBA lane courtesy at nationals, and threw a fit anytime anyone 3 lanes away “jumped himâ€. Honestly, it was embarrassing to watch a key figure in our sport be such a crybaby.
The “we’re going to push slow people to the late squads†memo went out shortly after that squad.
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Funny how Weber has the bad rep and he’s one of the most down to earth guys out there.
Speaking of bowlers and rockstar status. I remember years ago when the PBA came to Vernon Hills. The amount of local strumpets was crazy. I never knew pro bowlers had groupies. If you want to get your tube steak choked down in your car in the parking lot after a 8 game block, hey, live your life. The problem I have is when these guys (plural) get on tv and act like wholesome, happily married family men when you were just skull banging the local alley rats.
I can buy that Weber May be a fun, down to earth guy off the lanes.
That said, I bowled the squad directly following his at nationals a couple of years ago. We started almost 3 hours late almost entirely due to Weber. The guy expected PBA lane courtesy at nationals, and threw a fit anytime anyone 3 lanes away “jumped himâ€. Honestly, it was embarrassing to watch a key figure in our sport be such a crybaby.
The “we’re going to push slow people to the late squads†memo went out shortly after that squad.
Yeah which is why I prefaced away from competition. Guy is still a super type A especially on the approach. That story about Rash roping off eight tables around him at the lane restaurant at a pro am to keep the unwashed masses at bay and yelling at the wait staff was a whole other level of wow though. Heck of bowler but probably a good thing 900 doesn't have a lot of other pros on staff that have to deal with the guy. Hopefully he raises 900s profile, helps get them some pros one can actually cheer for (love Barnes but its been awhile) and goes elsewhere (probably has to happen first). Winner today has class. Rash well um yeah. Just glad the better man won. Could not care less about what company each represents as actually own significantly more 900 than I do Roto.
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If everyone read this thread from the start no doubt you know I HATE RASH. Think he's a punk no class bowler, who throws the ball tremendous. I was sitting right behind the practice pair and was there from the moment the doors opened (supposed to be at 3, opened late at 315). All 5 were practicing on 37-38 and several folks came up to watch and when Rash went to go to the bathroom, about 3-4 people asked for a picture and an autograph.....in the middle of the practice session with their tour reps right before the TOC. What did Rash do.....he took all the pics and signed everything. Never said a word no. So kudos in that moment to him. Belmo went to the bathroom later and literally there was a line behind my seat 15 people long waiting for him to come out of the bathroom. Let the poor guy take a piss. he comes out and signed everything and took every picture as well. Bill didn't come back once, zero interaction with the crowd but he looked focused and locked in.....until he went to the TV pair. Simonsen had zero interaction with the crowd as well. Prather came back a few times and in those instances anyone that asked for anything he obliged as well.
Only thing I wanted to point out...O'Neill was absolutely LOCKED IN with a Jagged Edge Hybrid on the practice pair. Dude couldn't miss. He went to the TV pair and I don't know if I saw him even try that ball. I was just shaking my head. Not that it would have made a difference...but wow.
Oh and in practice, Belmo sprayed the lane MORE than what he did on TV. He was completely lost on the practice pair as well. One shot was high and tight, the next was so wide he was facing up the 3 pin. Kept going back and forth like that for 30 minutes.
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Kudos to all the bowlers including Rash for at least signing autographs. Don't like the guy but will refrain from bashing him going forward as no point. Live and let live I guess.
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My my looks like Rash won another one, like I said before it sure looks like he knew what he was doing leaving Brunswick.
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He’s throwing it great. Looks like a great match. Looks like he made a great decision that’s working out wonderful for him.
However he is still a Grade A douchecanoe of a human off the lanes the majority of the time.
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My my looks like Rash won another one, like I said before it sure looks like he knew what he was doing leaving Brunswick.
There is no icon here for a cookie, but if there was one, I would include it. ::)
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time to watch Belmo push him out now that 900 is owned by storm....
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time to watch Belmo push him out now that 900 is owned by storm....
A good business never gets rid of a great asset that basic business 101 they could get rid of a lot of dead wood on their staff who are not having any luck winning titles, amdthere are plenty of them
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time to watch Belmo push him out now that 900 is owned by storm....
A good business never gets rid of a great asset that basic business 101 they could get rid of a lot of dead wood on their staff who are not having any luck winning titles, amdthere are plenty of them
Or they could decide they prefer to not be represented by a guy who is a tool, which is also good business.
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time to watch Belmo push him out now that 900 is owned by storm....
A good business never gets rid of a great asset that basic business 101 they could get rid of a lot of dead wood on their staff who are not having any luck winning titles, amdthere are plenty of them
Or they could decide they prefer to not be represented by a guy who is a tool, which is also good business.
Not even a 6 year old would believe that a company that is in the business of making bowling balls would get rid of one of their employees who is a proven winner to keep a really nice guy who never wins
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time to watch Belmo push him out now that 900 is owned by storm....
A good business never gets rid of a great asset that basic business 101 they could get rid of a lot of dead wood on their staff who are not having any luck winning titles, amdthere are plenty of them
Or they could decide they prefer to not be represented by a guy who is a tool, which is also good business.
Not even a 6 year old would believe that a company that is in the business of making bowling balls would get rid of one of their employees who is a proven winner to keep a really nice guy who never wins
But they could readily say "We represent the winner of just about everything anyways, so we don't need anyone that could be a detriment to our reputation"...if they feel that way.
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time to watch Belmo push him out now that 900 is owned by storm....
A good business never gets rid of a great asset that basic business 101 they could get rid of a lot of dead wood on their staff who are not having any luck winning titles, amdthere are plenty of them
Or they could decide they prefer to not be represented by a guy who is a tool, which is also good business.
Not even a 6 year old would believe that a company that is in the business of making bowling balls would get rid of one of their employees who is a proven winner to keep a really nice guy who never wins
But they could readily say "We represent the winner of just about everything anyways, so we don't need anyone that could be a detriment to our reputation"...if they feel that way.
You my friend have been drinking to much liberal cool aid if that were true Pete Webber would have been gone a long time ago but the name of the tune here is be a winner and Pete and Rash areboth winners.
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It's not about winning, it's about moving product. Two completely different things.
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time to watch Belmo push him out now that 900 is owned by storm....
A good business never gets rid of a great asset that basic business 101 they could get rid of a lot of dead wood on their staff who are not having any luck winning titles, amdthere are plenty of them
Or they could decide they prefer to not be represented by a guy who is a tool, which is also good business.
Not even a 6 year old would believe that a company that is in the business of making bowling balls would get rid of one of their employees who is a proven winner to keep a really nice guy who never wins
But they could readily say "We represent the winner of just about everything anyways, so we don't need anyone that could be a detriment to our reputation"...if they feel that way.
You my friend have been drinking to much liberal cool aid if that were true Pete Webber would have been gone a long time ago but the name of the tune here is be a winner and Pete and Rash areboth winners.
I'm just saying is all I'm saying. People don't respond to PDW the way they do to Rash, not to mention Pete has been a mainstay at Storm for forever. Besides which, he's an icon. They may feel indebted/otherwise attached to him.
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I hear league bowlers actually ask "What was that ball Weber was throwing?" The only comment from league bowlers about Rash I have heard was either "that guy is a dick" or "what a cry-baby".
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It's not about winning, it's about moving product. Two completely different things.
When you have a winner using your product then you move product other wise what is the point to spend all that money being on tv as well as research and development. The ball compamies absolutely do target the league bowlers to sell their product to
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time to watch Belmo push him out now that 900 is owned by storm....
A good business never gets rid of a great asset that basic business 101 they could get rid of a lot of dead wood on their staff who are not having any luck winning titles, amdthere are plenty of them
if belmo walked into storm HQ and said "its Rash or me", Rash would be out before lunch
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time to watch Belmo push him out now that 900 is owned by storm....
A good business never gets rid of a great asset that basic business 101 they could get rid of a lot of dead wood on their staff who are not having any luck winning titles, amdthere are plenty of them
if belmo walked into storm HQ and said "its Rash or me", Rash would be out before lunch
No they will not lose a talent like Rash on Belmo's ego. They make Belmo's shitty bowling balls so he can sit down and shut up
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:o
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I agree that if Belmo gave Storm an ultimatum, they would cut Rash. Rash is talented for sure, but Storm has invested a lot in their relationship with Belmo and wouldn't risk having him walk away. Belmo is too valuable to Storm for brand awareness, social media presence, and Q score.
Does anyone have an estimate as to how many more bowling balls 900 Global sold after Rash started throwing them on TV vs. how many balls Storm has sold because of Belmo? I don't think a stat like that would bode well for Rash if that is what it came down to.
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Do you really think for one minute that Belmo would ask Storm to get rid of Rash? Its not going to happen and most businesses will not be dictated to or by an employee. You talk about bowling ball sales, well as I recall the ball that was made for Belmo called Motion I have yet to see even 1 of those in my bowling house. Storm was out selling every other brand long before Belmo got there and will do the same after he is gone. The ones of you who have posted on Rash do not like him and that is your right and opinion to do so but you don't have the right to your own set of facts and the fact is Rash left Brunswick and has quickly won 2 titles.
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"Facts"... that's funny.
Everything here is opinion. In some folks opinion, he is an ass-clown and/or a dick.
Obviously, in your opinion, he is a bowling god who was only held back from immortality by the equipment he was using.
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"Facts"... that's funny.
Everything here is opinion. In some folks opinion, he is an ass-clown and/or a dick.
Obviously, in your opinion, he is a bowling god who was only held back from immortality by the equipment he was using.
I most assuredly did not say that he was a bowling god but he is a good bowler and he has added value to 900Global more that before he came. He did not even use the top of the line 900Global equipment to win his last title, he used the Ordinance solid as well as the pearl.Like I said facts are facts he is a winner regardless of what you personally think of him as a person.
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"Facts"... that's funny.
Everything here is opinion. In some folks opinion, he is an ass-clown and/or a dick.
Obviously, in your opinion, he is a bowling god who was only held back from immortality by the equipment he was using.
I most assuredly did not say that he was a bowling god but he is a good bowler and he has added value to 900Global more that before he came. He did not even use the top of the line 900Global equipment to win his last title, he used the Ordinance solid as well as the pearl.Like I said facts are facts he is a winner regardless of what you personally think of him as a person.
I agree that he has talent. It was interesting that he was using an Ordnance Solid considering it is a discontinued product. One would think that 900G would have wanted him using the Aspect or something else in the current line.
You know the old saying from racing..."Win on Sunday, sell on Monday!". I would imagine there is some of that with bowling equipment, too. Kind of hard to do when the winner was using a product no longer made.
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Does anyone have an estimate as to how many more bowling balls 900 Global sold after Rash started throwing them on TV vs. how many balls Storm has sold because of Belmo? I don't think a stat like that would bode well for Rash if that is what it came down to.
No way of knowing really but the 900 Global group on Facebook has almost doubled in size since Rash joined. He's got people interested in the equipment. They'd be daft to get rid of him just cause Belmo wasn't happy with him being there.
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Is Belmo unhappy with Rash being there?
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Liberty, not library. I am not a Rash fan, in fact I really dislike him as a person "Thinks his sh--, doesn't stink!
However, to be FAIR, I have to say kudos. He bowled great last season and he bowled great to capture the Oklahoma title.
I'm sure we are re-living what many prior saw and felt about PDW. Every new generation has their "Bad Boy of Bowling". Ours is Sean Rash.
Great bowler, but not a guy I want to call my friend!
I will share my experiences with Rash and PDW.
My dad and I went to a TOC to watch, oh 11 years ago or so. we had some stuff to try to get autographs on; and we didn't realize that there would be a signing session. so we would get to the lanes early and camp out and ask the bowlers for signatures.
PDW came, he was late and in a hurry and refused our request. He wasn't rude; maybe a bit short. Said , "cant right now, I am late" and kept going. we weren't insulted, we knew we had camped in the pathway to the locker room. when he came back out, he seeked us out, signed all our stuff and apologized for being rude. Fast forward to that evening or next evening; PDW happened to be staying at the same hotel as we did (not where the TOC was). and we ended up in the same bar. we noticed him; didn't say anything. his guests were late and as he scanned room; he saw us and remembered us from the quick meet and greet at the lanes. he came over, sat down, bought a round and chatted with us for 20 minutes until the folks he was waiting on arrived.
PDW was a pretty good dude; friendly and gracious that we were fans. and that was him "off the clock".
at the same event; we went to the restaurant in the lanes for lunch. Rash was in there; he had a table to himself in the middle; and had taped off a one table wide perimeter around himself to keep people away. he used 8 table around the one he sat at (9 total) for lunch to keep people away. why he didn't just go to the locker room for privacy I don't know.
After a few minutes waitress approach to check his water glass and otherwise check in on him, you know with him being a customer and all. Rash, being the class A jerk that he is, yelled at her for disturbing him. How she should know her F'ning place; she knew nobody was supposed to cross the tape he put up, how he wasn't to be bothered by fans, etc.
Rash may be "the bad boy" on the lanes; but he is a complete douche off of them.
Delete this, Sean Rash’s boyfriend, Rileybowler, is going to get very upset with you.
People like you like to go to the gutter with your childish words, reminds me of kids talking my daddy can beat your daddy . I'm done with this post . Have a good day.
::)
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Sean Rash is the Jeff Gordon of bowling.
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time to watch Belmo push him out now that 900 is owned by storm....
A good business never gets rid of a great asset that basic business 101 they could get rid of a lot of dead wood on their staff who are not having any luck winning titles, amdthere are plenty of them
if belmo walked into storm HQ and said "its Rash or me", Rash would be out before lunch
No they will not lose a talent like Rash on Belmo's ego. They make Belmo's shitty bowling balls so he can sit down and shut up
You’re King Meathead the First of Sausage Brain Manor if you think Storm would pick Rash over Belmonte.
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Did Francois LeVouis use Belmo’s new ball to beat Rash?
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Did Francois LeVouis use Belmo’s new ball to beat Rash?
Yes, he did. The irony.
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The way he bowled he would have beaten Belmo with Belmo's ball, not a whole lot anyone could do against a 300. Belmo actually had the second lowest score out of all the bowler's .
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Wait, so Rash LOST?
You must be devastated...
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I love irony.
He beat Rash, while shooting HIS second televised 300, while throwing a ball named after Rash’s nemesis, Belmonte.
Rash did seem gracious though, even congratulatory. Gotta give him that.
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Wait, so Rash LOST?
You must be devastated...
Why would I be devastated the guy he bowled bowled a perfect game and Rash congratulated him which is what anyone should do. What do you do when you lose kick the ball return?
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After reading this thread it’s obvious Rash has more class than the 160 ave meat heads on this site. How many of you DO NOT have a computer in your moms basement?
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After reading this thread it’s obvious Rash has more class than the 160 ave meat heads on this site. How many of you DO NOT have a computer in your moms basement?
My mom doesn't have a basement.
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After reading this thread it’s obvious Rash has more class than the 160 ave meat heads on this site. How many of you DO NOT have a computer in your moms basement?
Basements are against the building codes where my mom lives. perhaps I can set up my computer in your mom's basement next to yours?
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After reading this thread it’s obvious Rash has more class than the 160 ave meat heads on this site. How many of you DO NOT have a computer in your moms basement?
Basements are against the building codes where my mom lives. perhaps I can set up my computer in your mom's basement next to yours?
Great idea SG, see if there is enough room for me too. My mom is tired of me using the kitchen table. I can bring enough Skittles for all of us..but only if remmah isn't wearing just underwear.
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After reading this thread it’s obvious Rash has more class than the 160 ave meat heads on this site. How many of you DO NOT have a computer in your moms basement?
My mom doesn't have a basement.
Yeah, but how's her meatloaf?
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After reading this thread it’s obvious Rash has more class than the 160 ave meat heads on this site. How many of you DO NOT have a computer in your moms basement?
Not bad if you add enough ketchup.
My mom doesn't have a basement.
Yeah, but how's her meatloaf?
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I think the whole belmo/rash beef has been squashed.
They're both out working hard to be ambassadors of the sport as well as "The Face" of their respective brands. Feuds would detract big time, and wouldn't be worth it, TBH.
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I agree that Belmo and Rash have worked hard over the years to ratchet down the tension/rivalry, but Fox sure isn't. The intro package for both guys, especially Rash's, during the recent PBA playoffs telecast tried really hard to position the two as mortal enemies. THE BOTTLE INCIDENT WAS NINE YEARS AGO!
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I think the whole belmo/rash beef has been squashed.
They're both out working hard to be ambassadors of the sport as well as "The Face" of their respective brands. Feuds would detract big time, and wouldn't be worth it, TBH.
I agee with this 100%
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Time to resurrect this thread/discussion after the comments made by Rash earlier today.
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Jealous or tiny buckets of feeling here ?
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No clue for sure what it’s about.
And as I’ve said before - when I was at the TOC 2 years ago Sean was gracious to anyone and everyone and I gave him credit - including this thread. I call a spade a spade so today he was completely wrong with his comments. Should absolutely be fined at the very least.
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He is such a bitch. Maybe he’s so wound up because he can’t cheat on his pregnant wife anymore with co-Ed’s from Northern Illinois University so that aggression is directed at LH and anyone who throws urethane. This guy has been a cocksucker since his days as a youth.
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Real nice Mr Insecure. Too bad your not man enough to address the situation with the person you slander
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Real nice Mr Insecure. Too bad your not man enough to address the situation with the person you slander
Go put on your lace panties and deep throat Mr. Rash elsewhere.
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He is such a bitch. Maybe he’s so wound up because he can’t cheat on his pregnant wife anymore with co-Ed’s from Northern Illinois University so that aggression is directed at LH and anyone who throws urethane. This guy has been a cocksucker since his days as a youth.
Real nice Mr Insecure. Too bad your not man enough to address the situation with the person you slander
Go put on your lace panties and deep throat Mr. Rash elsewhere.
And with the above posts, this thread has now surpassed the requirement for needing popcorn....
This thread now requires nachos.
BL.
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Real nice Mr Insecure. Too bad your not man enough to address the situation with the person you slander
You know it’s bad when Lucas Wiseman, who never has anything bad to say about anyone, takes shots at your lover.
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I’m in no way defending what was said, but the 3 for 3 comment seemed to be aimed at Brunswick brands winning all the regional finals with their lane machine and oils being used by the PBA. I don’t think this had anything to do with the urethane controversy.
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Pretty sure it was about losing to a 2 handed lefty throwing urethane
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I’m in no way defending what was said, but the 3 for 3 comment seemed to be aimed at Brunswick brands winning all the regional finals with their lane machine and oils being used by the PBA. I don’t think this had anything to do with the urethane controversy.
No, it’s the 3 things he always cries about. 2 handers, left handers, and urethane. The trifecta. Russo is just an unassuming kid bowling. Simply put someone needs to clobber Rash upside the head a few times.
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Don't forget Rash hates plastic bottles as well. Such a passion for the environment.
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After Tommy Jones calling Rash out on Facebook last night, having Jones and Rash in the final is going to be great. If we can add Belmonte to the final tonight it will be absolutely amazing.
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I am going to add something. I completely understand Sean's frustration yet he handled it poorly. How is it that on a 45 foot pattern, a lefty has all the bounce off of the 5 board? I get that they take a little volume away for obvious reasons. But when you have a 45 foot pattern and a 39 foot pattern and the breakpoint is similar for lefties on both patterns; there is a problem. It has gotten to a point that lefties dont really need to throw anything resin anymore. Graham Fach is nowhere close to having a 500+ rev rate and yet could get it back from the 5 board with no problem. While I do understand the reason for taking some volume away. I also understand it takes some of the integrity out of the game.
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Rash is entitled to his feelings/opinions just like anyone else, but show some composure/class with where and how you choose to express them. Venting on the approach because you think you're about to lose just comes off as childish, and that's not something that should still be happening with a player with as much time/experience on TV as Rash has. You can tell that Rash knew how bad he looked/sounded too because he just sat there for a few seconds unsure of what to do or how to react once Russo opened to give him the win. I disagree with Rash's feelings on urethane, 2-handed, etc., but that's neither here nor there. My feelings aren't any more valid than his on those issues. The point is that you need to carry yourself as a professional, and, once again, he failed to do that.
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Rash is entitled to his feelings/opinions just like anyone else, but show some composure/class with where and how you choose to express them. Venting on the approach because you think you're about to lose just comes off as childish, and that's not something that should still be happening with a player with as much time/experience on TV as Rash has. You can tell that Rash knew how bad he looked/sounded too because he just sat there for a few seconds unsure of what to do or how to react once Russo opened to give him the win. I disagree with Rash's feelings on urethane, 2-handed, etc., but that's neither here nor there. My feelings aren't any more valid than his on those issues. The point is that you need to carry yourself as a professional, and, once again, he failed to do that.
+1
Rash is an amazing talent, but something's missing upstairs. Maybe it's a level of maturity, but who knows?
One moment he can "pure" a shot with an enviable combination of power and finesse, while the next he can miss a 10 pin because he's trying to impress with how hard he can toss it...
If he'd just carry himself with some professionalism and class he'd be in a better place upstairs. Seems like now whenever he doesn't win there's an excuse. Blame anything or anyone except the guy rolling the ball.
I watched Norm Duke battle, and fight with expertise and composure. I didn't see that with Rash.
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Mostly because he’s been coddled since he was 11. Now he’s 40 and people still make excuses for him. Thus when he loses it’s a myriad of reasons why.
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After Tommy Jones calling Rash out on Facebook last night, having Jones and Rash in the final is going to be great. If we can add Belmonte to the final tonight it will be absolutely amazing.
Wow....any possible way you can post a link to that?
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I am going to add something. I completely understand Sean's frustration yet he handled it poorly. How is it that on a 45 foot pattern, a lefty has all the bounce off of the 5 board? I get that they take a little volume away for obvious reasons. But when you have a 45 foot pattern and a 39 foot pattern and the breakpoint is similar for lefties on both patterns; there is a problem. It has gotten to a point that lefties dont really need to throw anything resin anymore. Graham Fach is nowhere close to having a 500+ rev rate and yet could get it back from the 5 board with no problem. While I do understand the reason for taking some volume away. I also understand it takes some of the integrity out of the game.
Agree on this take 100%
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Rash is entitled to his feelings/opinions just like anyone else, but show some composure/class with where and how you choose to express them. Venting on the approach because you think you're about to lose just comes off as childish, and that's not something that should still be happening with a player with as much time/experience on TV as Rash has. You can tell that Rash knew how bad he looked/sounded too because he just sat there for a few seconds unsure of what to do or how to react once Russo opened to give him the win. I disagree with Rash's feelings on urethane, 2-handed, etc., but that's neither here nor there. My feelings aren't any more valid than his on those issues. The point is that you need to carry yourself as a professional, and, once again, he failed to do that.
+1
Rash is an amazing talent, but something's missing upstairs. Maybe it's a level of maturity, but who knows?
One moment he can "pure" a shot with an enviable combination of power and finesse, while the next he can miss a 10 pin because he's trying to impress with how hard he can toss it...
If he'd just carry himself with some professionalism and class he'd be in a better place upstairs. Seems like now whenever he doesn't win there's an excuse. Blame anything or anyone except the guy rolling the ball.
I watched Norm Duke battle, and fight with expertise and composure. I didn't see that with Rash.
It's amazing to look back at PDW's career to see how he went from the complete bad boy of bowling to elder statesman. I mean, from the drinking, the attitude, getting suspended for a good year or more to handling himself with some modicum of class - I mean, he's no Jurek, Aulby, Ozio, etc. - over the latter part of his time on the main tour. I mean, the last time you saw a glimpse of the old PDW was that 5th US Open win.
My point here is that even the worst guy even settled down. You'd think that with having kids that you'd have to settle down from being a bad little boy and be an example not only to his young fans, but also to his own children.. If all of this is true (I haven't watched anything on the tour, as I've been following more international tournaments), then Rash has a serious bout of growing up to do, because even the worst we've seen wasn't even that bad.
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Rash is entitled to his feelings/opinions just like anyone else, but show some composure/class with where and how you choose to express them. Venting on the approach because you think you're about to lose just comes off as childish, and that's not something that should still be happening with a player with as much time/experience on TV as Rash has. You can tell that Rash knew how bad he looked/sounded too because he just sat there for a few seconds unsure of what to do or how to react once Russo opened to give him the win. I disagree with Rash's feelings on urethane, 2-handed, etc., but that's neither here nor there. My feelings aren't any more valid than his on those issues. The point is that you need to carry yourself as a professional, and, once again, he failed to do that.
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Rash is an amazing talent, but something's missing upstairs. Maybe it's a level of maturity, but who knows?
One moment he can "pure" a shot with an enviable combination of power and finesse, while the next he can miss a 10 pin because he's trying to impress with how hard he can toss it...
If he'd just carry himself with some professionalism and class he'd be in a better place upstairs. Seems like now whenever he doesn't win there's an excuse. Blame anything or anyone except the guy rolling the ball.
I watched Norm Duke battle, and fight with expertise and composure. I didn't see that with Rash.
It's amazing to look back at PDW's career to see how he went from the complete bad boy of bowling to elder statesman. I mean, from the drinking, the attitude, getting suspended for a good year or more to handling himself with some modicum of class - I mean, he's no Jurek, Aulby, Ozio, etc. - over the latter part of his time on the main tour. I mean, the last time you saw a glimpse of the old PDW was that 5th US Open win.
My point here is that even the worst guy even settled down. You'd think that with having kids that you'd have to settle down from being a bad little boy and be an example not only to his young fans, but also to his own children.. If all of this is true (I haven't watched anything on the tour, as I've been following more international tournaments), then Rash has a serious bout of growing up to do, because even the worst we've seen wasn't even that bad.
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Not to mention how this reflects on his wife.
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Boy, former and current pros are airing all the dirty laundry on Facebook. Word “integrity†getting thrown around a lot. From guys that were getting hummers in their cars between breaks while their pregnant wife was at home and in some cases in the bowling center.
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After Tommy Jones calling Rash out on Facebook last night, having Jones and Rash in the final is going to be great. If we can add Belmonte to the final tonight it will be absolutely amazing.
Wow....any possible way you can post a link to that?
Sweep the Rack podcast posted a screenshot of it on their Twitter page:
https://twitter.com/SweepTheRack/status/1485395239204388865?s=20
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After Tommy Jones calling Rash out on Facebook last night, having Jones and Rash in the final is going to be great. If we can add Belmonte to the final tonight it will be absolutely amazing.
Wow....any possible way you can post a link to that?
Sweep the Rack podcast posted a screenshot of it on their Twitter page:
https://twitter.com/SweepTheRack/status/1485395239204388865?s=20
Wow, thanks for that. Looks like Sean has rubbed some PBA guys the wrong way for sure.
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I just re-watched the part where he grabs the trophy with a quote saying how he loves his family so much and yet doesnt care that he just cost that same family a chunk of money all in the same breath. I am sure Sarah has to love that statement.
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Tommy Jones for the win!!! #epic
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I just re-watched the part where he grabs the trophy with a quote saying how he loves his family so much and yet doesnt care that he just cost that same family a chunk of money all in the same breath. I am sure Sarah has to love that statement.
At least one shot clock violation, an audible F word and a really audible S word. Wonder what the fine will add up to... maybe the PBA will wait until the 29th just in case he racks up some additional fines...
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I just re-watched the part where he grabs the trophy with a quote saying how he loves his family so much and yet doesnt care that he just cost that same family a chunk of money all in the same breath. I am sure Sarah has to love that statement.
At that moment I knew we were dealing with high level narcissist.
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Instead of banning urethane, maybe they should just ban Sean Rash...........
Just sayin. :)
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I really hope He bowls Tommy Jones and Jones uses Purp Daddy and Rash implodes.
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If Belmo would happen to make the show - between that and all the Purples Rash’s head might explode.
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As announced on the show tonight. Rash has been fined an undisclosed amount PLUS a 1 yr probation PLUS is suspended from one PBA tourney in February. Did not state which tournament.
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Generally not fun getting old but sometimes its good for a laugh like when I remember how resin was the cheater ball when it supplanted urethane as the go to ball.
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Aren’t you old enough to remember soakers and bleeders and urethane’s first go round?
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Generally not fun getting old but sometimes its good for a laugh like when I remember how resin was the cheater ball when it supplanted urethane as the go to ball.
Aren’t you old enough to remember soakers and bleeders and urethane’s first go round?
It's funny because of how technology has progressed. I mean, Rubber to plastic to urethane to resin to solid/hybrid/pearl, etc...
Yet the masses (and apparently, Rash) are complaining in the opposite way.. as if they can't handle the regression..
Makes you wonder what will happen if someone complains about the True Blood or BW Spare because of being plastic + core!
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Aren’t you old enough to remember soakers and bleeders and urethane’s first go round?
Yes, I am.
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Boy, former and current pros are airing all the dirty laundry on Facebook. Word “integrity†getting thrown around a lot. From guys that were getting hummers in their cars between breaks while their pregnant wife was at home and in some cases in the bowling center.
I’m more interested in hearing this story and how it came about? Cheating on his wife and while pregnant?
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Boy, former and current pros are airing all the dirty laundry on Facebook. Word “integrity†getting thrown around a lot. From guys that were getting hummers in their cars between breaks while their pregnant wife was at home and in some cases in the bowling center.
I’m more interested in hearing this story and how it came about? Cheating on his wife and while pregnant?
Do we really need the sordid details? I am sure there are many "indiscretions" going on not just in bowling but all professional sports. It just makes me laugh that there are bowling groupies strolling around the bowling centers LOL [Although I have seen some of the "courting behavior" of the teens attending the local JBT tournaments, so maybe it isn't so hard to believe...]
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Boy, former and current pros are airing all the dirty laundry on Facebook. Word “integrity†getting thrown around a lot. From guys that were getting hummers in their cars between breaks while their pregnant wife was at home and in some cases in the bowling center.
I’m more interested in hearing this story and how it came about? Cheating on his wife and while pregnant?
Do we really need the sordid details? I am sure there are many "indiscretions" going on not just in bowling but all professional sports. It just makes me laugh that there are bowling groupies strolling around the bowling centers LOL [Although I have seen some of the "courting behavior" of the teens attending the local JBT tournaments, so maybe it isn't so hard to believe...]
Personally I always thought there was some "tension" between Belmonte and Kimberly Pressler. Not sure why. Maybe because he seems to enjoy his mic time with her more than anyone else during the pre-game and post-games interviews?
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Boy, former and current pros are airing all the dirty laundry on Facebook. Word “integrity†getting thrown around a lot. From guys that were getting hummers in their cars between breaks while their pregnant wife was at home and in some cases in the bowling center.
I’m more interested in hearing this story and how it came about? Cheating on his wife and while pregnant?
Do we really need the sordid details? I am sure there are many "indiscretions" going on not just in bowling but all professional sports. It just makes me laugh that there are bowling groupies strolling around the bowling centers LOL [Although I have seen some of the "courting behavior" of the teens attending the local JBT tournaments, so maybe it isn't so hard to believe...]
Personally I always thought there was some "tension" between Belmonte and Kimberly Pressler. Not sure why. Maybe because he seems to enjoy his mic time with her more than anyone else during the pre-game and post-games interviews?
Probably more "tension" between Belmonte and Randy Pedersen as well as Pedersen and Kyle Troop.
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Boy, former and current pros are airing all the dirty laundry on Facebook. Word “integrity†getting thrown around a lot. From guys that were getting hummers in their cars between breaks while their pregnant wife was at home and in some cases in the bowling center.
I’m more interested in hearing this story and how it came about? Cheating on his wife and while pregnant?
Do we really need the sordid details? I am sure there are many "indiscretions" going on not just in bowling but all professional sports. It just makes me laugh that there are bowling groupies strolling around the bowling centers LOL [Although I have seen some of the "courting behavior" of the teens attending the local JBT tournaments, so maybe it isn't so hard to believe...]
Personally I always thought there was some "tension" between Belmonte and Kimberly Pressler. Not sure why. Maybe because he seems to enjoy his mic time with her more than anyone else during the pre-game and post-games interviews?
Belmonte likes to talk. I don't care for him in interviews nor do I like his commentary or sideline reporting on the occasions he does that kind of work. I think he and Kimberly are just acquaintances. She appeared on Belmonte's blog/podcast he was doing during the pandemic.
Kimberly is OK, but she has a habit while interviewing people of allowing her eyes to noticeably scan up and down peoples faces while they are responding to her and it is kind of distracting. It is like she is saying in her head "look at their mouth...look at their eyes...look at their mouth..look at their eyes..." She is no Erin Andrews in terms of poise and overall quality of interviews.
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https://hammerbowling.com/collections/upper-mid-performance/products/black-widow-urethane
This will give Sean a real rash, lol
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Boy, former and current pros are airing all the dirty laundry on Facebook. Word “integrity†getting thrown around a lot. From guys that were getting hummers in their cars between breaks while their pregnant wife was at home and in some cases in the bowling center.
I’m more interested in hearing this story and how it came about? Cheating on his wife and while pregnant?
Do we really need the sordid details? I am sure there are many "indiscretions" going on not just in bowling but all professional sports. It just makes me laugh that there are bowling groupies strolling around the bowling centers LOL [Although I have seen some of the "courting behavior" of the teens attending the local JBT tournaments, so maybe it isn't so hard to believe...]
Personally I always thought there was some "tension" between Belmonte and Kimberly Pressler. Not sure why. Maybe because he seems to enjoy his mic time with her more than anyone else during the pre-game and post-games interviews?
Belmonte likes to talk. I don't care for him in interviews nor do I like his commentary or sideline reporting on the occasions he does that kind of work. I think he and Kimberly are just acquaintances. She appeared on Belmonte's blog/podcast he was doing during the pandemic.
Kimberly is OK, but she has a habit while interviewing people of allowing her eyes to noticeably scan up and down peoples faces while they are responding to her and it is kind of distracting. It is like she is saying in her head "look at their mouth...look at their eyes...look at their mouth..look at their eyes..." She is no Erin Andrews in terms of poise and overall quality of interviews.
True, she is no Erin Andrews, but she sure has a nicer set of....assets, yea that's it. :-)
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Boy, former and current pros are airing all the dirty laundry on Facebook. Word “integrity†getting thrown around a lot. From guys that were getting hummers in their cars between breaks while their pregnant wife was at home and in some cases in the bowling center.
I’m more interested in hearing this story and how it came about? Cheating on his wife and while pregnant?
Do we really need the sordid details? I am sure there are many "indiscretions" going on not just in bowling but all professional sports. It just makes me laugh that there are bowling groupies strolling around the bowling centers LOL [Although I have seen some of the "courting behavior" of the teens attending the local JBT tournaments, so maybe it isn't so hard to believe...]
Personally I always thought there was some "tension" between Belmonte and Kimberly Pressler. Not sure why. Maybe because he seems to enjoy his mic time with her more than anyone else during the pre-game and post-games interviews?
Belmonte likes to talk. I don't care for him in interviews nor do I like his commentary or sideline reporting on the occasions he does that kind of work. I think he and Kimberly are just acquaintances. She appeared on Belmonte's blog/podcast he was doing during the pandemic.
Kimberly is OK, but she has a habit while interviewing people of allowing her eyes to noticeably scan up and down peoples faces while they are responding to her and it is kind of distracting. It is like she is saying in her head "look at their mouth...look at their eyes...look at their mouth..look at their eyes..." She is no Erin Andrews in terms of poise and overall quality of interviews.
True, she is no Erin Andrews, but she sure has a nicer set of....assets, yea that's it. :-)
Lets face it. If she was anything close to Erin Andrews she would most likely not be on the PBA. But back to the topic at hand. Rash needs to be suspended for a lot longer than 1 tournament. He has had multiple outbursts on TV while using profanity. He blatantly stated he doesnt care about the fines that were about to be imposed. At the end of the day....would anyone really miss him? For trying to give off the persona he is such a tough guy; I cant remember anyone boohooing as much as he has in front of the cameras. The only time I can think of where it made logical sense is when he first started on tour and a close friend of his tragically passed away. I could be wrong though.
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Boy, former and current pros are airing all the dirty laundry on Facebook. Word “integrity†getting thrown around a lot. From guys that were getting hummers in their cars between breaks while their pregnant wife was at home and in some cases in the bowling center.
I’m more interested in hearing this story and how it came about? Cheating on his wife and while pregnant?
Do we really need the sordid details? I am sure there are many "indiscretions" going on not just in bowling but all professional sports. It just makes me laugh that there are bowling groupies strolling around the bowling centers LOL [Although I have seen some of the "courting behavior" of the teens attending the local JBT tournaments, so maybe it isn't so hard to believe...]
Personally I always thought there was some "tension" between Belmonte and Kimberly Pressler. Not sure why. Maybe because he seems to enjoy his mic time with her more than anyone else during the pre-game and post-games interviews?
Belmonte likes to talk. I don't care for him in interviews nor do I like his commentary or sideline reporting on the occasions he does that kind of work. I think he and Kimberly are just acquaintances. She appeared on Belmonte's blog/podcast he was doing during the pandemic.
Kimberly is OK, but she has a habit while interviewing people of allowing her eyes to noticeably scan up and down peoples faces while they are responding to her and it is kind of distracting. It is like she is saying in her head "look at their mouth...look at their eyes...look at their mouth..look at their eyes..." She is no Erin Andrews in terms of poise and overall quality of interviews.
True, she is no Erin Andrews, but she sure has a nicer set of....assets, yea that's it. :-)
Lets face it. If she was anything close to Erin Andrews she would most likely not be on the PBA. But back to the topic at hand. Rash needs to be suspended for a lot longer than 1 tournament. He has had multiple outbursts on TV while using profanity. He blatantly stated he doesnt care about the fines that were about to be imposed. At the end of the day....would anyone really miss him? For trying to give off the persona he is such a tough guy; I cant remember anyone boohooing as much as he has in front of the cameras. The only time I can think of where it made logical sense is when he first started on tour and a close friend of his tragically passed away. I could be wrong though.
I’d suspend him for the season.
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Boy, former and current pros are airing all the dirty laundry on Facebook. Word “integrity†getting thrown around a lot. From guys that were getting hummers in their cars between breaks while their pregnant wife was at home and in some cases in the bowling center.
I’m more interested in hearing this story and how it came about? Cheating on his wife and while pregnant?
Do we really need the sordid details? I am sure there are many "indiscretions" going on not just in bowling but all professional sports. It just makes me laugh that there are bowling groupies strolling around the bowling centers LOL [Although I have seen some of the "courting behavior" of the teens attending the local JBT tournaments, so maybe it isn't so hard to believe...]
You think that’s bad? Don’t get me started on Rhino Page molesting young…….nevermind.
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Boy, former and current pros are airing all the dirty laundry on Facebook. Word “integrity†getting thrown around a lot. From guys that were getting hummers in their cars between breaks while their pregnant wife was at home and in some cases in the bowling center.
I’m more interested in hearing this story and how it came about? Cheating on his wife and while pregnant?
Do we really need the sordid details? I am sure there are many "indiscretions" going on not just in bowling but all professional sports. It just makes me laugh that there are bowling groupies strolling around the bowling centers LOL [Although I have seen some of the "courting behavior" of the teens attending the local JBT tournaments, so maybe it isn't so hard to believe...]
Personally I always thought there was some "tension" between Belmonte and Kimberly Pressler. Not sure why. Maybe because he seems to enjoy his mic time with her more than anyone else during the pre-game and post-games interviews?
Belmonte likes to talk. I don't care for him in interviews nor do I like his commentary or sideline reporting on the occasions he does that kind of work. I think he and Kimberly are just acquaintances. She appeared on Belmonte's blog/podcast he was doing during the pandemic.
Kimberly is OK, but she has a habit while interviewing people of allowing her eyes to noticeably scan up and down peoples faces while they are responding to her and it is kind of distracting. It is like she is saying in her head "look at their mouth...look at their eyes...look at their mouth..look at their eyes..." She is no Erin Andrews in terms of poise and overall quality of interviews.
True, she is no Erin Andrews, but she sure has a nicer set of....assets, yea that's it. :-)
Lets face it. If she was anything close to Erin Andrews she would most likely not be on the PBA. But back to the topic at hand. Rash needs to be suspended for a lot longer than 1 tournament. He has had multiple outbursts on TV while using profanity. He blatantly stated he doesnt care about the fines that were about to be imposed. At the end of the day....would anyone really miss him? For trying to give off the persona he is such a tough guy; I cant remember anyone boohooing as much as he has in front of the cameras. The only time I can think of where it made logical sense is when he first started on tour and a close friend of his tragically passed away. I could be wrong though.
His 17 year friendship with Tom Clark [according to Randy Pedersen's commentary] certainly factored in to the punishment handed down to him. If Tom Clark didn't feel like he could be impartial in the situation, he should have recused himself and had someone else at the PBA/Bowlero decide the punishment.
Anthony Simonsen has also had some melt downs on camera as well.
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His 17 year friendship with Tom Clark [according to Randy Pedersen's commentary] certainly factored in to the punishment handed down to him. If Tom Clark didn't feel like he could be impartial in the situation, he should have recused himself and had someone else at the PBA/Bowlero decide the punishment.
Anthony Simonsen has also had some melt downs on camera as well.
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Lets also not forget the bowling center equipment he busted at Wayne Webb's place a couple years back only to imply it wasnt a big deal by saying just take it from my winnings this week. Does Tom Clark really think a 1 tournament suspension is going to change Rash's ways? Here is just one instance where Pete was suspended and it was for the rest of the season at the time.
https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2000/03/01/pba-suspends-weber/
Here is another one. Scroll down to see the "Annoy Sean Rash Starter Kit". LMBO!!!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bowling/comments/natavn/what_did_pete_weber_say_to_a_fan_to_get_suspended/
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Can't wait for Rash to have to bowl Simo, throwing a backup shot down the left side with his 30 year old urethan Grenade.
4 for 4
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His 17 year friendship with Tom Clark [according to Randy Pedersen's commentary] certainly factored in to the punishment handed down to him. If Tom Clark didn't feel like he could be impartial in the situation, he should have recused himself and had someone else at the PBA/Bowlero decide the punishment.
Anthony Simonsen has also had some melt downs on camera as well.
Lets also not forget the bowling center equipment he busted at Wayne Webb's place a couple years back only to imply it wasnt a big deal by saying just take it from my winnings this week. Does Tom Clark really think a 1 tournament suspension is going to change Rash's ways? Here is just one instance where Pete was suspended and it was for the rest of the season at the time.
https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2000/03/01/pba-suspends-weber/
Here is another one. Scroll down to see the "Annoy Sean Rash Starter Kit". LMBO!!!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bowling/comments/natavn/what_did_pete_weber_say_to_a_fan_to_get_suspended/
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He was also fined an undisclosed amount of money as well as a 1 year probation.
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I was always amazed how much he needed be babysat and coddled
Other staffers just detested him
The snack bar: restaurant roping off was rather comical as if he is some big celebrity
The rhino story ohhhhh man, dont forget his good friend “the dr†part of that debacle
He should be gone for a year minimum and definitely fired from 900
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His 17 year friendship with Tom Clark [according to Randy Pedersen's commentary] certainly factored in to the punishment handed down to him. If Tom Clark didn't feel like he could be impartial in the situation, he should have recused himself and had someone else at the PBA/Bowlero decide the punishment.
Anthony Simonsen has also had some melt downs on camera as well.
Lets also not forget the bowling center equipment he busted at Wayne Webb's place a couple years back only to imply it wasnt a big deal by saying just take it from my winnings this week. Does Tom Clark really think a 1 tournament suspension is going to change Rash's ways? Here is just one instance where Pete was suspended and it was for the rest of the season at the time.
https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2000/03/01/pba-suspends-weber/
Here is another one. Scroll down to see the "Annoy Sean Rash Starter Kit". LMBO!!!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bowling/comments/natavn/what_did_pete_weber_say_to_a_fan_to_get_suspended/
He was also fined an undisclosed amount of money as well as a 1 year probation.
This was what I was alluding to with Pete. I mean, from then his attitude changed to where he could still be the bad boy, but could do it in different ways than acting out like he did back then when he was on the drink.
Besides, one tournament of the PBA's choosing and an undisclosed fine plus probation may be light. Weber got worse.. Holman and Nelson Burton got worse.. Wagner and Davidson could have had worse, but it cost Lisa in the end, with PoTY stakes on the line for her..
https://www.mcall.com/news/mc-xpm-1985-10-13-2503863-story.html
But compared to Holman getting sin binned for 10 tournaments, Rash got off light.
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Back in the heyday of bowling, it would have been a bigger deal. But honestly, no one really gives a shit about bowling today. Especially the general public as evidenced by the TV ratings.
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Are people upset because Russo choked? Or are they actually upset because Sean exercised his freedom of speech? Confusing topic
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It’s not confusing Remmah. It’s not as much what he said. It’s more about when and where he said it.
I know if I said anything remotely similar to what Rash said while working for my employer I would be fired. Without question.
Sean has a right to his opinion. However on the lanes with a microphone in your pocket and an opponent getting up to bowl is not the right time. Show some class and bite the bullet to a more appropriate time and place.
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Are people upset because Russo choked? Or are they actually upset because Sean exercised his freedom of speech? Confusing topic
He has freedom of speech, but not freedom from consequences. Freedom of speech only pertains to whether the government can tell you to shut up or not. What he did was call into question the integrity of the sport while competing in that sport on a show about that sport. The PBA has every right to punish him, and did. As long as it's the PBA punishing him and not the government, that's proper, and in this case, to be expected.
I'm not going to pile on him, I'm just saying this was an internal matter that Sean chose to make public, and the PBA responded accordingly. Controversy's over in my mind.
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Do any of you know the story of the ball testing fiasco which occurred on site last weekend you may change your opinion
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I heard about an issue. Regardless - I would handle the issue internally with a sit down talk with Tom or whoever. Not on the air into a live microphone with my opponent getting up to bowl.
When I don't agree with the boss at work do I send an email to everyone in the company about my feelings? No. When I don’t agree with something do I go on social media and blast the boss or company? No. I handle it one on one - like a professional- and move on.
If Sean has that much of an issue with the PBA - maybe he should quit and bowl non PBA events? Nobody says he HAS to bowl PBA stuff.
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Yep we all have our thoughts and I can’t wait for the Sweep the Rack flame throwers to go after it tonight
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When Russo missed the spare in the 10th did he act like a spoiled 12 year old? No, he took it like a man. Did he make an excuse as to why he missed? No, he took it like a man. There is the difference.
I'm not asking Rash to be happy (when it appeared he was going to lose) just accept whatever happened. No one except Rash threw his ball. Accept some responsibility for his outcome, good or bad.
Let's see how much urethane is used next week in the championship. He's just let everyone know how to get into his head, though.
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for sale; old Black Hammer Urethane ball. comes with free vacation home in sean rash's head.
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and definitely fired from 900
That's a toughie right there.
I don't really have a clue about the background of his deal with Brunswick, but it's pretty clear that Sean & Daria really helped 900 Global get put "on the map" along with Chris Barnes. Sean won almost immediately when he switched, people noticed.
I do agree with others on the timing/place of his rant. No place for that at all, yikes.
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I dont think Rashs comments affected Russos shots. He left the same split in the 9th and converted it which was huge. He then left it again on the first shot in the 10th. Had he not just left the exact same split in the 9th I definitely would see it differently. Russo by far handled himself far more professional then Rash.
In terms of the "equipment checking debacle" no that doesn't affect my decision on Rash's statement. His mental game is that weak that he thinks all of this stuff matters then thats great for everyone else. Had Rash struck on his second shot and not yanked the piss out of it then Im sure he would have been mister happy.
It is only when Rash failed that he then blames everyone and everything else. World is full of people who are like that and turns out most people dont care for it.
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and definitely fired from 900
That's a toughie right there.
I don't really have a clue about the background of his deal with Brunswick, but it's pretty clear that Sean & Daria really helped 900 Global get put "on the map" along with Chris Barnes. Sean won almost immediately when he switched, people noticed.
I do agree with others on the timing/place of his rant. No place for that at all, yikes.
900 Global being under the Storm umbrella has brought more awareness and value than the staff endorsements from Rash and Pajak. I have a hard time believing that anyone is buying 900G as a direct result of seeing Rash and Pajak throwing it. They could both change brands tomorrow and it would have no impact on 900G awareness and sales. Not enough people actually see them use the equipment with any amount of regularity to have a substantial influence on brand awareness and overall sales.
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and definitely fired from 900
That's a toughie right there.
I don't really have a clue about the background of his deal with Brunswick, but it's pretty clear that Sean & Daria really helped 900 Global get put "on the map" along with Chris Barnes. Sean won almost immediately when he switched, people noticed.
I do agree with others on the timing/place of his rant. No place for that at all, yikes.
900 Global being under the Storm umbrella has brought more awareness and value than the staff endorsements from Rash and Pajak. I have a hard time believing that anyone is buying 900G as a direct result of seeing Rash and Pajak throwing it. They could both change brands tomorrow and it would have no impact on 900G awareness and sales. Not enough people actually see them use the equipment with any amount of regularity to have a substantial influence on brand awareness and overall sales.
Exactly my thoughts.
Of course, I only buy balls based on the unbiased staffer reviews that are posted here. :o :o ;D
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and definitely fired from 900
900 Global being under the Storm umbrella has brought more awareness and value than the staff endorsements from Rash and Pajak. I have a hard time believing that anyone is buying 900G as a direct result of seeing Rash and Pajak throwing it. They could both change brands tomorrow and it would have no impact on 900G awareness and sales. Not enough people actually see them use the equipment with any amount of regularity to have a substantial influence on brand awareness and overall sales.
Unfortunately guys....you're BOTH wrong! I bowl with a bunch of bowlers who occasionally watch the PBA, and if Rash or Pajak are winning with Global at the time that they happened to watch it........you'll see those balls in the hands of these house bowlers next week! This is the truth, and all the manufacturers know this as well! It is what it is.
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So here is another thought:
If you remember- a while back some Purple Hammers were found to be too soft. That is why the durometer check was reinstated.
Think back a few more years - the 2 original Jackals were declared ineligible for use in USBC sanctioned events and the PBA because some - not all - Jackals had a diff above the USBC allowed .060 UNDRILLED differential. Every Jackal and Jackal Carnage were essentially useless in a league/tourney bowlers bag. Motiv replaced them with the LE Jackal at a huge expense to the company.
So I leave you with this. Why did every Jackal have the certification removed because only some were illegal and yet we now know some Purple Hammers are illegal (too soft) but the USBC has not required all of them to be pulled?
If you do something one way - you need to do it that way when a similar issue crops up. In my mind - although it’s a different problem (undrilled diff vs too soft) in the end it’s the same scenario- some of the balls violate a USBC rule. USBC should treat the situations identical (my opinion).
Now - none of this changes my mind on Rash’s behavior. It was unprofessional and uncalled for and absolutely should have been handled differently by him.
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Do any of you know the story of the ball testing fiasco which occurred on site last weekend you may change your opinion
Then please inform us of what happened.
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I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits. Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal. It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly. The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse.
If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on. But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story. I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?). A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.
PGA Commish: "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin: "SUSPENDED!!!! Kick him off the tour."
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I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits. Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal. It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly. The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse.
If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on. But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story. I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?). A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.
PGA Commish: "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin: "SUSPENDED!!!! Kick him off the tour."
This is actually what Chris Barnes and Stu Williams said as well
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I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits. Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal. It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly. The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse.
If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on. But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story. I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?). A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.
PGA Commish: "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin: "SUSPENDED!!!! Kick him off the tour."
That's why I brought up the other incidents. Holman got $2500 and 9 tournaments for breaking the light at the foul line. Burton got 6 months for hitting someone. PDW didn't hit anyone; it was only his conduct that sin binned him for a year. This is light for Rash.
But I also have to agree with TWOHAND834; I understand about the rules being the rules and that a player can request/demand a test on equipment at any time to be sure it is legal/valid. That is perfectly within their right, and I'd support that. But the fact that it has to do with urethane, and the fact that Rash has had history on his feelings about urethane, this screams more about his main focus being on someone or something else, and the lack of focus on his game. He's essentially complaining about something that for the most is beyond his control, instead of staying in his own lane and running his own race. If there was a problem, it could have been dealt with afterwards, especially if he focused on his game and won on his own merits. That would have not only kept his integrity and held his influence/capital higher, but also given him leverage for his main complaint, in which more fans could have stood behind him.
But he didn't, because he couldn't, so he spent that influence and capital. While everyone is talking about what he has said (and justifiably so), what people aren't talking about is much deeper: the fact that his mental game, especially against urethane, isn't strong. Someone talked about he was possibly trying to get into Russo's head... now, not just PBA bowlers, but every bowler can get into Rash's head by simply putting a Pitch Black, Purple Hammer, a Tank, all three Black Widow Urethanes, and everything Faball on the ball return. That screams to me that a lack of mental game is there, especially regarding urethane, and he can't, hasn't, or doesn't want to address it.
BL.
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and definitely fired from 900
900 Global being under the Storm umbrella has brought more awareness and value than the staff endorsements from Rash and Pajak. I have a hard time believing that anyone is buying 900G as a direct result of seeing Rash and Pajak throwing it. They could both change brands tomorrow and it would have no impact on 900G awareness and sales. Not enough people actually see them use the equipment with any amount of regularity to have a substantial influence on brand awareness and overall sales.
Unfortunately guys....you're BOTH wrong! I bowl with a bunch of bowlers who occasionally watch the PBA, and if Rash or Pajak are winning with Global at the time that they happened to watch it........you'll see those balls in the hands of these house bowlers next week! This is the truth, and all the manufacturers know this as well! It is what it is.
Most bowlers I know that watch Pajak bowl aren't watching her to see what equipment she is throwing. Might sound a bit crude, but that is the reality. Additionally, most bowlers I know couldn't care less about anything Rash does unless he shoots his mouth off. Then that is what they focus on. There are only a handful of bowlers that the manufacturers probably really care about in terms of sponsorships (Troup, Belmonte, Duke, Liz Johnson, Jones, O'Neill, Barnes, PDW, WRW, etc.) The others they keep in their portfolio but don't really work extra hard to keep them on staff.
"Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" is a known adage in the racing industry. I guess it could apply to bowling balls. However the audience watching bowling is typically 0.06% the size of Nascar, so any effect is minimal to the bowling ball market.
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I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits. Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal. It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly. The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse.
If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on. But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story. I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?). A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.
PGA Commish: "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin: "SUSPENDED!!!! Kick him off the tour."
That's why I brought up the other incidents. Holman got $2500 and 9 tournaments for breaking the light at the foul line. Burton got 6 months for hitting someone. PDW didn't hit anyone; it was only his conduct that sin binned him for a year. This is light for Rash.
But I also have to agree with TWOHAND834; I understand about the rules being the rules and that a player can request/demand a test on equipment at any time to be sure it is legal/valid. That is perfectly within their right, and I'd support that. But the fact that it has to do with urethane, and the fact that Rash has had history on his feelings about urethane, this screams more about his main focus being on someone or something else, and the lack of focus on his game. He's essentially complaining about something that for the most is beyond his control, instead of staying in his own lane and running his own race. If there was a problem, it could have been dealt with afterwards, especially if he focused on his game and won on his own merits. That would have not only kept his integrity and held his influence/capital higher, but also given him leverage for his main complaint, in which more fans could have stood behind him.
But he didn't, because he couldn't, so he spent that influence and capital. While everyone is talking about what he has said (and justifiably so), what people aren't talking about is much deeper: the fact that his mental game, especially against urethane, isn't strong. Someone talked about he was possibly trying to get into Russo's head... now, not just PBA bowlers, but every bowler can get into Rash's head by simply putting a Pitch Black, Purple Hammer, a Tank, all three Black Widow Urethanes, and everything Faball on the ball return. That screams to me that a lack of mental game is there, especially regarding urethane, and he can't, hasn't, or doesn't want to address it.
BL.
I’m sorry but all of his complaining about urethane lost all credibility as he now looks like the biggest hypocrite ever.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482551708182007814?s=21
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I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits. Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal. It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly. The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse.
If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on. But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story. I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?). A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.
PGA Commish: "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin: "SUSPENDED!!!! Kick him off the tour."
That's why I brought up the other incidents. Holman got $2500 and 9 tournaments for breaking the light at the foul line. Burton got 6 months for hitting someone. PDW didn't hit anyone; it was only his conduct that sin binned him for a year. This is light for Rash.
But I also have to agree with TWOHAND834; I understand about the rules being the rules and that a player can request/demand a test on equipment at any time to be sure it is legal/valid. That is perfectly within their right, and I'd support that. But the fact that it has to do with urethane, and the fact that Rash has had history on his feelings about urethane, this screams more about his main focus being on someone or something else, and the lack of focus on his game. He's essentially complaining about something that for the most is beyond his control, instead of staying in his own lane and running his own race. If there was a problem, it could have been dealt with afterwards, especially if he focused on his game and won on his own merits. That would have not only kept his integrity and held his influence/capital higher, but also given him leverage for his main complaint, in which more fans could have stood behind him.
But he didn't, because he couldn't, so he spent that influence and capital. While everyone is talking about what he has said (and justifiably so), what people aren't talking about is much deeper: the fact that his mental game, especially against urethane, isn't strong. Someone talked about he was possibly trying to get into Russo's head... now, not just PBA bowlers, but every bowler can get into Rash's head by simply putting a Pitch Black, Purple Hammer, a Tank, all three Black Widow Urethanes, and everything Faball on the ball return. That screams to me that a lack of mental game is there, especially regarding urethane, and he can't, hasn't, or doesn't want to address it.
BL.
I’m sorry but all of his complaining about urethane lost all credibility as he now looks like the biggest hypocrite ever.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482551708182007814?s=21
Neither the UC2 nor the Zen are urethane. If he was bragging about using a UC3, I could see the hypocrisy argument...
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I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits. Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal. It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly. The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse.
If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on. But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story. I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?). A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.
PGA Commish: "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin: "SUSPENDED!!!! Kick him off the tour."
That's why I brought up the other incidents. Holman got $2500 and 9 tournaments for breaking the light at the foul line. Burton got 6 months for hitting someone. PDW didn't hit anyone; it was only his conduct that sin binned him for a year. This is light for Rash.
But I also have to agree with TWOHAND834; I understand about the rules being the rules and that a player can request/demand a test on equipment at any time to be sure it is legal/valid. That is perfectly within their right, and I'd support that. But the fact that it has to do with urethane, and the fact that Rash has had history on his feelings about urethane, this screams more about his main focus being on someone or something else, and the lack of focus on his game. He's essentially complaining about something that for the most is beyond his control, instead of staying in his own lane and running his own race. If there was a problem, it could have been dealt with afterwards, especially if he focused on his game and won on his own merits. That would have not only kept his integrity and held his influence/capital higher, but also given him leverage for his main complaint, in which more fans could have stood behind him.
But he didn't, because he couldn't, so he spent that influence and capital. While everyone is talking about what he has said (and justifiably so), what people aren't talking about is much deeper: the fact that his mental game, especially against urethane, isn't strong. Someone talked about he was possibly trying to get into Russo's head... now, not just PBA bowlers, but every bowler can get into Rash's head by simply putting a Pitch Black, Purple Hammer, a Tank, all three Black Widow Urethanes, and everything Faball on the ball return. That screams to me that a lack of mental game is there, especially regarding urethane, and he can't, hasn't, or doesn't want to address it.
BL.
I’m sorry but all of his complaining about urethane lost all credibility as he now looks like the biggest hypocrite ever.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482551708182007814?s=21
Neither the UC2 nor the Zen are urethane. If he was bragging about using a UC3, I could see the hypocrisy argument...
Sorry wrong clip. Here you go.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482448803760427009?s=21
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I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits. Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal. It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly. The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse.
If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on. But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story. I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?). A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.
PGA Commish: "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin: "SUSPENDED!!!! Kick him off the tour."
That's why I brought up the other incidents. Holman got $2500 and 9 tournaments for breaking the light at the foul line. Burton got 6 months for hitting someone. PDW didn't hit anyone; it was only his conduct that sin binned him for a year. This is light for Rash.
But I also have to agree with TWOHAND834; I understand about the rules being the rules and that a player can request/demand a test on equipment at any time to be sure it is legal/valid. That is perfectly within their right, and I'd support that. But the fact that it has to do with urethane, and the fact that Rash has had history on his feelings about urethane, this screams more about his main focus being on someone or something else, and the lack of focus on his game. He's essentially complaining about something that for the most is beyond his control, instead of staying in his own lane and running his own race. If there was a problem, it could have been dealt with afterwards, especially if he focused on his game and won on his own merits. That would have not only kept his integrity and held his influence/capital higher, but also given him leverage for his main complaint, in which more fans could have stood behind him.
But he didn't, because he couldn't, so he spent that influence and capital. While everyone is talking about what he has said (and justifiably so), what people aren't talking about is much deeper: the fact that his mental game, especially against urethane, isn't strong. Someone talked about he was possibly trying to get into Russo's head... now, not just PBA bowlers, but every bowler can get into Rash's head by simply putting a Pitch Black, Purple Hammer, a Tank, all three Black Widow Urethanes, and everything Faball on the ball return. That screams to me that a lack of mental game is there, especially regarding urethane, and he can't, hasn't, or doesn't want to address it.
BL.
I’m sorry but all of his complaining about urethane lost all credibility as he now looks like the biggest hypocrite ever.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482551708182007814?s=21
Neither the UC2 nor the Zen are urethane. If he was bragging about using a UC3, I could see the hypocrisy argument...
Sorry wrong clip. Here you go.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482448803760427009?s=21
Now that's funny. Although he bowled way better with the Wolverine. It is no secret that he doesn't like urethane and doesn't bowl well with urethane. But you are correct, he really shouldn't complain about it and then also use it.
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So what's the deal with someone asking about equipment being checked? Who requested? Who's equipment? Was a problem found? At one of the regional finals for the PBA Championship this weekend?
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I've seen the UC3 in action and there's no way it's pure urethane. But still, if the manufacturer says so and then Rash uses it (and complains about urethane) then he's an idiot (unless that's already been proven :)).
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Do any of you know the story of the ball testing fiasco which occurred on site last weekend you may change your opinion
Then please inform us of what happened.
Supposedly the durometer was broken at the event and equipment couldn't be tested to ensure it fell within the hardness allowances. There have been ongoing concerns that Purple Hammers get softer the more they are used and may fall out of range. That has added to speculation that Rash was not pleased that equipment wasn't being tested.
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Ah, Thanks!
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So what's the deal with someone asking about equipment being checked? Who requested? Who's equipment? Was a problem found? At one of the regional finals for the PBA Championship this weekend?
No-one has a problem with asking about if equipment can be checked. In fact, that is well within his right to do so, and I don't think anyone has any argument there.
The problem is how he handled the situation, doing it on air, doubling down on it, and showing a complete lack of integrity and class for who and what he is in the sport. The way he handled it and himself called both himself and the sport into disrepute, and that is what everyone is upset at.
If he had a problem, he should have exercised his right to ask for more testing than just the one broken durometer, handled it behind the scenes, and been a hell of a lot more classy than he was. But he didn't, and made himself a fool on national TV and got dinged for it.
Again, his request to solve a potential problem was valid, but he chose the wrong time and place to air out his dirty laundry for that argument.
BL.
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It wasn't about him asking for anything to be checked. The PBA had announced they were going to check equipment for all TV finalists starting with the Player's regional qualifiers and there were issues with them doing so before these shows.
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Hammer has been trolling him the last few days on facebook with daily purple hammer memes.
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Hammer has been trolling him the last few days on facebook with daily purple hammer memes.
Just good marketing, taking any opportunity to use things that get a reaction out of people.
I don't defend Sean at all, but I really think if more people understood about the testing debacle, and then letting everything slide regardless of results for the shows they might have a better feel for why Sean used the word Integrity.
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I'm confused. Did his stuff get checked and then the durometer break?
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I heard that nobody's stuff got checked.
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Watch the Beef and Barnsey show on you tube. They explain what actually happened. Yes, the durometer broke. Yes, they found a replacement. Because the weather temp made the durometer inaccurate the pba just let all balls go thru. Just wouldn't make any difference to since all of these guys were traveling with less than 2 days to check in. Traveling with equipment in backs of trucks thru cold snowy weather would really keep the hardness up
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And he's number 1 seed putting some extra mustard on the ball on that left lane with the "F U haters" line.
Out of line? eh. Darren Tang's on camera complaining about the racks at the West regional. He probably should get a fine too.
But the important part is how many Internet marks Rash can irritate and then feed off that energy, though :D
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And he's number 1 seed putting some extra mustard on the ball on that left lane with the "F U haters" line.
Out of line? eh. Darren Tang's on camera complaining about the racks at the West regional. He probably should get a fine too.
But the important part is how many Internet marks Rash can irritate and then feed off that energy, though :D
So in short, because of his rant, Rash is trolling, got called out for the trolling, dinged with a fine and probation, and now wants to use the hiding and trolling he's copping from it as energy to fuel him? That's a roundabout way of feeding off of energy (negative, positive, or otherwise)...
.. But it's a gamble. To make himself the winner in all of this, the gamble is that he has to show up and win. If he doesn't, he's going to lose a lot of face in this, and quite possibly cause a lot of urethane to sell over the next few months.
BL.
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Ah looky throwing the uc3 on tv.
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It’s the purple hammer that’s the issue pay attention son
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To his credit, Rash behaved himself as he lost to Belmo. I guess since he chose to throw urethane on the right lane he was stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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It’s the purple hammer that’s the issue pay attention son
No, the issue with the Purple Hammers not getting checked for hardness is a separate issue. He has a history of stating Urethane doesn't belong. For him to use one after trashing them in general is hypocritical.
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To his credit, Rash behaved himself as he lost to Belmo. I guess since he chose to throw urethane on the right lane he was stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I feel like he behaved himself because he got fined, suspended, and ripped to shreds on social media. Turning point? Too soon to tell, we will have to wait and see what happens.
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Calling the UC3 urethane is like calling Barney a dinosaur.
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Calling the UC3 urethane is like calling Barney a dinosaur.
A lot of his hatred towards urethane comes around the purple hammer. The uc3 is much closer to a purple hammer than a pitch black or black hammer. I don’t think it’s a good look either way you want to look at it.
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Calling the UC3 urethane is like calling Barney a dinosaur.
Agreed. I've thrown a ton of urethane over the years. UC3 (and Pitch Purple before it) is far from true urethane. It's fairly smooth like urethane, but it recovers so much better. It hooks a lot more. I'd say it's much closer to a strong, smooth reactive than urethane.
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Calling the UC3 urethane is like calling Barney a dinosaur.
Agreed. I've thrown a ton of urethane over the years. UC3 (and Pitch Purple before it) is far from true urethane. It's fairly smooth like urethane, but it recovers so much better. It hooks a lot more. I'd say it's much closer to a strong, smooth reactive than urethane.
Dont you think the core plays alot into the reaction? Everyone talks about the cover without mentioning the core and the UC2 is a backend beast. So wouldnt you think the UC3 would be a good backend ball as well even though it is classified as a urethane?
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Calling the UC3 urethane is like calling Barney a dinosaur.
A lot of his hatred towards urethane comes around the purple hammer. The uc3 is much closer to a purple hammer than a pitch black or black hammer. I don’t think it’s a good look either way you want to look at it.
I don't hate the UC3 or urethane, I have a UC3 and I throw a Purple Tank pretty much exclusively in league. But come on, the UC3 is not a real urethane ball.
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I wasnt implying it was. I didnt say that it was real urethane. I just said it was classified as such and that everyone seems to be excluding the cores affect on the ball reaction.
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Urethane today is probably significantly different than in the 80s including cores. However people forget that oil types, volumes used and pattern lengths are so much different that it makes comparison between balls of those eras useless.
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Calling the UC3 urethane is like calling Barney a dinosaur.
Agreed. I've thrown a ton of urethane over the years. UC3 (and Pitch Purple before it) is far from true urethane. It's fairly smooth like urethane, but it recovers so much better. It hooks a lot more. I'd say it's much closer to a strong, smooth reactive than urethane.
Dont you think the core plays alot into the reaction? Everyone talks about the cover without mentioning the core and the UC2 is a backend beast. So wouldnt you think the UC3 would be a good backend ball as well even though it is classified as a urethane?
No doubt it does, as I have both (and the original Rubicon). The UC3 is easily the strongest of the 3. I'd say it shapes similar to the Rubicon - maybe a bit smoother.
The thing is, I've thrown other urethanes with big cores in them (Hot Cell and Black Widow as examples) and this ball just continues more than any other urethane. It reminds me more of the microcell balls from Motiv - but it's stronger than all of those as well (I own all 3).
I have thrown the UC3 on short (practically unusable for me), medium and long sport patterns. It was best on the long for me. I have also thrown it on house shots at two different alleys. It's one of the strongest balls I own - in terms of overall hook. I compared it to the Purple Tank and Purple Hammer. Both those hook a bunch, but you can see the difference in shape and continuation. You get to the point where moving left just doesn't work with those. I have yet to see that with the UC3. I've hooked it from 6th/7th arrow to the ditch and it's bounced back.
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Therein lies my point. The core is way stronger on the UC3 than the Purple Hammer. The Purple Hammer is considered to be the benchmark urethane that the companies are trying to outperform. There is a HUGE difference between a symmetric core with an RG of 2.6 and an asymmetric core with an RG of 2.48 not to mention the differentials are drastically different as well. My feeling is that the Pink Widow Urethane is the response to the UC3. The UC3 is definitely going to be a game changer.
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My feeling is that the Pink Widow Urethane is the response to the UC3.
The Pink Widow Urethane is the response to demand for the Purple Widow Urethane that was released overseas only except for stock that Bowlersmart has gotten and sold
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Therein lies my point. The core is way stronger on the UC3 than the Purple Hammer. The Purple Hammer is considered to be the benchmark urethane that the companies are trying to outperform. There is a HUGE difference between a symmetric core with an RG of 2.6 and an asymmetric core with an RG of 2.48 not to mention the differentials are drastically different as well. My feeling is that the Pink Widow Urethane is the response to the UC3. The UC3 is definitely going to be a game changer.
As noted, I have also owned big core urethane balls. Still have my Hot Cell. Not even close. Trust me, UC3 does not roll like a urethane, whether it's a pancake urethane or a big asym urethane.