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Title: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: n00dlejester on January 16, 2019, 10:29:57 AM
I was gifted a Respect. It had like 3 games on it, and the original owner was like, "Too over under, driving me insane, here n00dlejester - have it!" So, I plugged it and redrilled it.

The layout is something like 40 x 4 x 40 - it puts the pin in my ring finger.

At box surface, the ball was sooooooooo wiggly downlane. It looked good for half a game, then didn't know what it wanted to do no matter where I played on the lane. Then it kind of woke up while practicing after league.

Then last night, I hit it with a 2k pad on a spinner. I didn't press hard, and only spun it about 20 seconds on 4 sides. This is our sport shot league, and we bowled on the 37' Melbourne pattern. I used the Respect all 3 games and had one hell of a look. It was much more continuous, and predictable!

Has anybody else had trouble with the shiny OOB surface of their respect? What surfaces work well on the Respect? I'm really curious as to others' experiences with this ball. This is the hardest hitting ball I've owned since the IQ Tour Fusion and I want to maximize my use of this ball.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: 2handedrook12 on January 16, 2019, 11:00:20 AM
I didn't like my Respect out of the box, but loved it with an abralon pad adjustment. Fresh 2000 was my favorite surface on it.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: Impending Doom on January 16, 2019, 11:03:27 AM
I was gifted a Respect. It had like 3 games on it, and the original owner was like, "Too over under, driving me insane, here n00dlejester - have it!" So, I plugged it and redrilled it.

The layout is something like 40 x 4 x 40 - it puts the pin in my ring finger.

At box surface, the ball was sooooooooo wiggly downlane. It looked good for half a game, then didn't know what it wanted to do no matter where I played on the lane. Then it kind of woke up while practicing after league.

Then last night, I hit it with a 2k pad on a spinner. I didn't press hard, and only spun it about 20 seconds on 4 sides. This is our sport shot league, and we bowled on the 37' Melbourne pattern. I used the Respect all 3 games and had one hell of a look. It was much more continuous, and predictable!

Has anybody else had trouble with the shiny OOB surface of their respect? What surfaces work well on the Respect? I'm really curious as to others' experiences with this ball. This is the hardest hitting ball I've owned since the IQ Tour Fusion and I want to maximize my use of this ball.

Try 3000 if 2000 is too early. It's a very responsive cover and needs the factory shine knocked off. My original drove me nuts OOB.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: n00dlejester on January 16, 2019, 11:35:33 AM
Duly noted, guys. Thanks so much for the feedback! Right now, 2k is doing pretty good! Nothing too early, and still lots of side-to-side motion.

Has anybody tried 4k?
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: Impending Doom on January 16, 2019, 12:54:46 PM
Duly noted, guys. Thanks so much for the feedback! Right now, 2k is doing pretty good! Nothing too early, and still lots of side-to-side motion.

Has anybody tried 4k?

I feel like that would be too close to box, reaction wise. But give it a shot!
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: n00dlejester on January 16, 2019, 04:22:13 PM
Duly noted, guys. Thanks so much for the feedback! Right now, 2k is doing pretty good! Nothing too early, and still lots of side-to-side motion.

Has anybody tried 4k?

I feel like that would be too close to box, reaction wise. But give it a shot!

Yeah man, definitely will! I might try a 500/4000 job if the 2k proves too early on not-37-feet-but-tons-of-volume patterns.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: billdozer on January 16, 2019, 07:55:37 PM
My respect got good with age, worn it oob was my favorite.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: iamone78 on January 17, 2019, 05:07:27 PM
Agreed, I didn't love my Respect with the 15k and polish so I touched mine with 15k and it definitely rolled more consistent. I also did that with my Black Ops. If I need a little more push I will take them to 3k or 4k. I did like the Drift at 15k with polish though. More and more I am going with breaking the cover with whatever the OOB finish is.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: billdozer on January 17, 2019, 10:28:42 PM
Agreed, I didn't love my Respect with the 15k and polish so I touched mine with 15k and it definitely rolled more consistent. I also did that with my Black Ops. If I need a little more push I will take them to 3k or 4k. I did like the Drift at 15k with polish though. More and more I am going with breaking the cover with whatever the OOB finish is.


I was used to storm finishing processes already. And I'm one that doesn't shoot well until the ball is extremely tracked up... I knew what I was doing when I got the respect I knew it would take time, however I didn't realize the ball would act like a super cover and last forever 😂😂
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: iamone78 on January 18, 2019, 12:02:48 PM
bill, glad to hear. I know and see several bowlers with og Respects still using them. Also a handful of others that are happy for the re-release Respect. I'm not a big fan of the polished solids or hybrids. The only exceptions being the Dark Matter and Drift. I don't usually have a problem with the 15k polish covers on pearls for the most part. A matter of fact the Respect Pearl and Truth Pearl were 2 of my favorites. I guess some cores and covers just don't match up to all bowlers.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: n00dlejester on January 18, 2019, 12:16:38 PM
I've rolled 5 games with the Respect so far at 2k - it rolls real nice! It seems to stop at the breakpoint, which is wild to watch. I might try it with 1500, just to see if it can become even more rolly.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: Impending Doom on January 18, 2019, 01:48:30 PM
Everything about the Drift I wasn't supposed to like. 1500 polished, high RG core. I ended up loving it. When I have defined friction to throw it to, it's insane. That ball, and the X, I'll always keep in the bag. They're polar opposites and both hit like a bomb.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: billdozer on January 18, 2019, 03:50:16 PM
Boys, this is a respect appreciation thread.... Watch it! 😎
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: Impending Doom on January 18, 2019, 03:52:51 PM
Hey, we respect the Respect!!
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: jelt2359 on January 19, 2019, 01:59:23 AM
Just drilled up my re-Respect. Really love that ball. Rolls very nice, makes a turn at the breakpoint but doesn't go crazy. Thanks doom (as usual) for the fantastic layout suggestions. Currently loving my rotation of Respect, Claw (also Doom's layout) and X2!
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: Impending Doom on January 19, 2019, 11:00:12 AM
Just drilled up my re-Respect. Really love that ball. Rolls very nice, makes a turn at the breakpoint but doesn't go crazy. Thanks doom (as usual) for the fantastic layout suggestions. Currently loving my rotation of Respect, Claw (also Doom's layout) and X2!

I have an X2 waiting for me in the Milwaukee area to be picked up. Love my X, and that core as a matter of fact, so I'm looking forward to that (and the nib Covert too)
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: Uncle Meat PT 2 on January 21, 2019, 10:20:23 AM
I had an og Respect and sold it , now someone has a remake for sale, however, it has a 1.5-2 “ pin on it and not sure if I want it.
All my gear has always had longer than 3”.
Just curious if that would result in an earlier reaction/break.
I inteed to polish it up for a house shot.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 21, 2019, 10:41:21 AM
I had an og Respect and sold it , now someone has a remake for sale, however, it has a 1.5-2 “ pin on it and not sure if I want it.
All my gear has always had longer than 3”.
Just curious if that would result in an earlier reaction/break.
I inteed to polish it up for a house shot.

Factory pin spec is basically irrelevant on symmetrics under the new rules. Drill it up with your desired Pin-pap distance and you're good to go. 
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: n00dlejester on January 22, 2019, 11:01:21 AM
Just drilled up my re-Respect. Really love that ball. Rolls very nice, makes a turn at the breakpoint but doesn't go crazy. Thanks doom (as usual) for the fantastic layout suggestions. Currently loving my rotation of Respect, Claw (also Doom's layout) and X2!

I have an X2 waiting for me in the Milwaukee area to be picked up. Love my X, and that core as a matter of fact, so I'm looking forward to that (and the nib Covert too)

I am disgustingly in love with my X2. It's so rolly, I had to change the layout from a 4 to a 5 inch pin to pap. Once I did, the ball became SO good for me! It's my ball of choice for when the fresh loosens up a bit, or I'm on a lighter volume pattern.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: n00dlejester on January 22, 2019, 11:03:08 AM
Hey guys, I tried the Respect at 1,500...bad idea, lol. It wanted to cover more boards, but the surface caused it to roll out and hit like a white-and-blue marshmallow. I think I'm going to try it at 3k and see if it'll let me play near the shim line a bit longer.

Also? I'm quickly falling in love with this ball, lol
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: Impending Doom on January 22, 2019, 11:09:07 AM
Just drilled up my re-Respect. Really love that ball. Rolls very nice, makes a turn at the breakpoint but doesn't go crazy. Thanks doom (as usual) for the fantastic layout suggestions. Currently loving my rotation of Respect, Claw (also Doom's layout) and X2!

I have an X2 waiting for me in the Milwaukee area to be picked up. Love my X, and that core as a matter of fact, so I'm looking forward to that (and the nib Covert too)

I am disgustingly in love with my X2. It's so rolly, I had to change the layout from a 4 to a 5 inch pin to pap. Once I did, the ball became SO good for me! It's my ball of choice for when the fresh loosens up a bit, or I'm on a lighter volume pattern.

Yeah, my X is FILTHY. Trying to replace that in the bag might be next to impossible.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: n00dlejester on January 22, 2019, 11:15:43 AM
Just drilled up my re-Respect. Really love that ball. Rolls very nice, makes a turn at the breakpoint but doesn't go crazy. Thanks doom (as usual) for the fantastic layout suggestions. Currently loving my rotation of Respect, Claw (also Doom's layout) and X2!

I have an X2 waiting for me in the Milwaukee area to be picked up. Love my X, and that core as a matter of fact, so I'm looking forward to that (and the nib Covert too)

I am disgustingly in love with my X2. It's so rolly, I had to change the layout from a 4 to a 5 inch pin to pap. Once I did, the ball became SO good for me! It's my ball of choice for when the fresh loosens up a bit, or I'm on a lighter volume pattern.

Yeah, my X is FILTHY. Trying to replace that in the bag might be next to impossible.

I feel like the original X was an equally-long-but-more-angular IQ Tour. If I didn't have an effin' case of IQs a few years ago, I was gonna try an original X. I seriously hope they take that core and stick it onto a pearl. Or another cover. Just please make more, Global!
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: Freddy on January 24, 2019, 06:12:53 AM
I hit mine with a 2000 pad.  Works great!
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: billdozer on January 24, 2019, 07:32:13 AM
Just drilled up my re-Respect. Really love that ball. Rolls very nice, makes a turn at the breakpoint but doesn't go crazy. Thanks doom (as usual) for the fantastic layout suggestions. Currently loving my rotation of Respect, Claw (also Doom's layout) and X2!

I have an X2 waiting for me in the Milwaukee area to be picked up. Love my X, and that core as a matter of fact, so I'm looking forward to that (and the nib Covert too)

I am disgustingly in love with my X2. It's so rolly, I had to change the layout from a 4 to a 5 inch pin to pap. Once I did, the ball became SO good for me! It's my ball of choice for when the fresh loosens up a bit, or I'm on a lighter volume pattern.

Yeah, my X is FILTHY. Trying to replace that in the bag might be next to impossible.

I feel like the original X was an equally-long-but-more-angular IQ Tour. If I didn't have an effin' case of IQs a few years ago, I was gonna try an original X. I seriously hope they take that core and stick it onto a pearl. Or another cover. Just please make more, Global!

They're super due for a new X line ball aren't they?
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: Impending Doom on January 24, 2019, 09:17:24 AM
Just drilled up my re-Respect. Really love that ball. Rolls very nice, makes a turn at the breakpoint but doesn't go crazy. Thanks doom (as usual) for the fantastic layout suggestions. Currently loving my rotation of Respect, Claw (also Doom's layout) and X2!

I have an X2 waiting for me in the Milwaukee area to be picked up. Love my X, and that core as a matter of fact, so I'm looking forward to that (and the nib Covert too)

I am disgustingly in love with my X2. It's so rolly, I had to change the layout from a 4 to a 5 inch pin to pap. Once I did, the ball became SO good for me! It's my ball of choice for when the fresh loosens up a bit, or I'm on a lighter volume pattern.

Yeah, my X is FILTHY. Trying to replace that in the bag might be next to impossible.

I feel like the original X was an equally-long-but-more-angular IQ Tour. If I didn't have an effin' case of IQs a few years ago, I was gonna try an original X. I seriously hope they take that core and stick it onto a pearl. Or another cover. Just please make more, Global!

They're super due for a new X line ball aren't they?

If you ask me, we totally are. Need to have that middle of the road reaction in every aspect back. Boosts are too angular, and Badgers and Ops are too much overall. Hopefully they put something in that spot now that the Truth Tour is on it's way out.
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: billdozer on January 24, 2019, 09:34:14 AM
Just drilled up my re-Respect. Really love that ball. Rolls very nice, makes a turn at the breakpoint but doesn't go crazy. Thanks doom (as usual) for the fantastic layout suggestions. Currently loving my rotation of Respect, Claw (also Doom's layout) and X2!

I have an X2 waiting for me in the Milwaukee area to be picked up. Love my X, and that core as a matter of fact, so I'm looking forward to that (and the nib Covert too)

I am disgustingly in love with my X2. It's so rolly, I had to change the layout from a 4 to a 5 inch pin to pap. Once I did, the ball became SO good for me! It's my ball of choice for when the fresh loosens up a bit, or I'm on a lighter volume pattern.

Yeah, my X is FILTHY. Trying to replace that in the bag might be next to impossible.

I feel like the original X was an equally-long-but-more-angular IQ Tour. If I didn't have an effin' case of IQs a few years ago, I was gonna try an original X. I seriously hope they take that core and stick it onto a pearl. Or another cover. Just please make more, Global!

They're super due for a new X line ball aren't they?

If you ask me, we totally are. Need to have that middle of the road reaction in every aspect back. Boosts are too angular, and Badgers and Ops are too much overall. Hopefully they put something in that spot now that the Truth Tour is on it's way out.

X tour it is a then. I'll get a hold of my people lol JK.

I'm mad I missed out on the infrared.  I loved that core like 2 decades ago lol
Title: Re: Some Thoughts About the Respectttt
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 24, 2019, 11:47:15 AM
Just drilled up my re-Respect. Really love that ball. Rolls very nice, makes a turn at the breakpoint but doesn't go crazy. Thanks doom (as usual) for the fantastic layout suggestions. Currently loving my rotation of Respect, Claw (also Doom's layout) and X2!

I have an X2 waiting for me in the Milwaukee area to be picked up. Love my X, and that core as a matter of fact, so I'm looking forward to that (and the nib Covert too)

I am disgustingly in love with my X2. It's so rolly, I had to change the layout from a 4 to a 5 inch pin to pap. Once I did, the ball became SO good for me! It's my ball of choice for when the fresh loosens up a bit, or I'm on a lighter volume pattern.

Yeah, my X is FILTHY. Trying to replace that in the bag might be next to impossible.

I feel like the original X was an equally-long-but-more-angular IQ Tour. If I didn't have an effin' case of IQs a few years ago, I was gonna try an original X. I seriously hope they take that core and stick it onto a pearl. Or another cover. Just please make more, Global!

They're super due for a new X line ball aren't they?

If you ask me, we totally are. Need to have that middle of the road reaction in every aspect back. Boosts are too angular, and Badgers and Ops are too much overall. Hopefully they put something in that spot now that the Truth Tour is on it's way out.

X tour it is a then. I'll get a hold of my people lol JK.

I'm mad I missed out on the infrared.  I loved that core like 2 decades ago lol

Infrared looked like a turd in my area.