BallReviews

Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: DrBwlr15 on January 03, 2018, 12:08:33 AM

Title: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: DrBwlr15 on January 03, 2018, 12:08:33 AM
I don’t see a lot of 900 Global stuff in my area. Compared to some of the bigger companies (Storm, Ebonite, Brunswick) how does Global stack up? I have my eye on either the HB or an Ops Ball..
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on January 03, 2018, 06:48:43 AM
First off, both excellent choices. Secondly, I find Global to be in between Storm and Brunswick in terms of angularity.

Now, here's the question. How much angle are you looking for? Covert is going to be the smoothest out of them all, handling more oil. HB is going to be a ball to use when you need to step in and get some angle. Black Ops is in between those. Oob, flippier than the Covert, less flippy than the HB.

Only suggestion is to put your own surface on either the HB or Black Ops.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 03, 2018, 09:27:41 AM
Excellent info from Doom. I'm not completely versed in 900 Global but I'll add a little info here.

If you're looking for smooth control, the X is amazing. X2 I speculate is as well. The X is very similar to the Storm IQ Tour you will find many people rave about.

The Break core in the Ops balls is also very well respected.

The HB doesn't work with the VISE IT thumbs - just a heads up. So if going interchangeable thumbs, you'll need Turbo brand for that ball.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on January 03, 2018, 09:55:34 AM
Excellent info from Doom. I'm not completely versed in 900 Global but I'll add a little info here.

If you're looking for smooth control, the X is amazing. X2 I speculate is as well. The X is very similar to the Storm IQ Tour you will find many people rave about.

The Break core in the Ops balls is also very well respected.

The HB doesn't work with the VISE IT thumbs - just a heads up. So if going interchangeable thumbs, you'll need Turbo brand for that ball.

I haven't heard anything about the vise HB issue... Now the DCT, those have problems with vise, not turbo.

My X is amazing. Not a ball I can go left to right with, but boy oh boy does it hit like a tank. Very Tour IQ ish. X2 is even earlier and stronger.

Ops is very Black Widowy. It's a great motion. Not over the top like my Dreams, but plenty for a house shot and anything around 40 feet in length for sport.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: HackJandy on January 03, 2018, 10:24:48 AM
Get yourself the Honey Badger.  Its the the only 900 ball I have and only have had it for a few weeks but been impressed so far.  I am a sucker for 2 piece balls in general though and the edge to such a thick coverstock is less worries about cracking and more durable and it just has a different pin hit that I like.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on January 03, 2018, 10:29:25 AM
I'll be honest, the HB and Covert are getting drilled asap. Another sleeper is the new Shadow Ops. Hybrid urethane on the Break core.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 03, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
Excellent info from Doom. I'm not completely versed in 900 Global but I'll add a little info here.

If you're looking for smooth control, the X is amazing. X2 I speculate is as well. The X is very similar to the Storm IQ Tour you will find many people rave about.

The Break core in the Ops balls is also very well respected.

The HB doesn't work with the VISE IT thumbs - just a heads up. So if going interchangeable thumbs, you'll need Turbo brand for that ball.

I haven't heard anything about the vise HB issue... Now the DCT, those have problems with vise, not turbo.

My X is amazing. Not a ball I can go left to right with, but boy oh boy does it hit like a tank. Very Tour IQ ish. X2 is even earlier and stronger.

Ops is very Black Widowy. It's a great motion. Not over the top like my Dreams, but plenty for a house shot and anything around 40 feet in length for sport.

Ah I may have misspoke on the Vise issue flipping names around, good catch Doom!
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: DrBwlr15 on January 03, 2018, 12:17:03 PM
Decided on the Black Ops, I got too good of a deal to pass up. The HB will be next but I have to wait until next month. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on January 03, 2018, 12:31:27 PM
It's what I do, bro!
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: n00dlejester on January 03, 2018, 03:31:41 PM
I recently started using some 900 Global gear - the X2 is unbelievably versatile. I've never seen anything like it to be honest.

I have an X2, a Redux, and a Bubblegum Boost. Their shapes remind me of Brunswick balls during the Inferno days - more pronounced than they are today. The closest company with gear out today similar to my Global stuff is Roto Grip.

I'm licking my chops for that DCT Pearl.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Uncle Meat PT 2 on January 03, 2018, 08:02:36 PM
I am looking at the Pearl DCT also, but watching the preliminary video's, I am not convinced yet that it will be more angular than my Network. Seems to me, it gets into a dead roll past breakpoint. The numbers are very simular, yet I think the cover is gonna have to have more polished finish for me to use the DCT for what I want.
Probably gonna have to take it to 4k grit and some polish.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: SVstar34 on January 03, 2018, 08:20:21 PM
I am looking at the Pearl DCT also, but watching the preliminary video's, I am not convinced yet that it will be more angular than my Network. Seems to me, it gets into a dead roll past breakpoint. The numbers are very simular, yet I think the cover is gonna have to have more polished finish for me to use the DCT for what I want.
Probably gonna have to take it to 4k grit and some polish.

While the core numbers are similar, the DCT Pearl is S86R while if I remember correctly the Network has 74 cover. The Inception Pearl would be closer than the DCT Pearl
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: 2handedrook12 on January 03, 2018, 08:33:52 PM
The X2 is something special. If it had a bolt on it, the IQ Tour could be discontinued right now.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on January 03, 2018, 09:42:50 PM
Stop talking about the X2!! I love my X!!!

*Sobs* don't make me get an X2.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: n00dlejester on January 04, 2018, 08:02:18 AM
Stop talking about the X2!! I love my X!!!

*Sobs* don't make me get an X2.

Haha! I've never seen an X go down the lane, but the X2 is truly unique. It reads SO early but never jumps. As a bowler with lots of tilt & rotation, it's a wonderful piece for me.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on January 04, 2018, 10:40:55 AM
My X is like a super strong urethane motion. Drilled mine 5*65 no hole and it's butter smooth.

I'd consider an X2 drilled something like 4*20 with no hole to help get around the corner.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: n00dlejester on January 04, 2018, 10:49:16 AM
I saw a few X2's go down teh lane before punching mine up, and went with a 40 x 4 x 30, with a hole on my VAL below the axis. The ball was less responsive to friction than I thought it would be, but as continuous through the pins as an IQ Tour. This is a mediocre shot on 36' Beijing (after league):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uRYNtwuPQynuGuD2gXFRt9R-2lxBkYYT
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 04, 2018, 12:37:45 PM
My X is like a super strong urethane motion. Drilled mine 5*65 no hole and it's butter smooth.

I'd consider an X2 drilled something like 4*20 with no hole to help get around the corner.

Not hoping that 20 VAL angle makes it peel off the spot though right??  ;)
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on January 04, 2018, 01:07:53 PM
Lol, NOTHING will make that ball peel off the spot.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: JamminJD on January 04, 2018, 02:29:46 PM
Off Topic, but I thought Barnes was going to be more hands on with 900? Am I missing something, I haven't really seen him hyping them up or any talk of his hands being in on the equipment.. Is Nick still designing the cores?
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on January 04, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
Nick is still designing, Barnes is probably behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 05, 2018, 09:32:40 AM
Nick is still designing, Barnes is probably behind the scenes.

Barnes is probably being like that annoying guy in the group that keeps suggesting stupid stuff and they just say yes to him and actually do what they want. I will say it does seem like their line continues to be more rolly pieces like Barnes game so take that for whatever it's worth.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on January 05, 2018, 10:05:00 AM
Well, he had a hand in the Dark Matter, and that ball is pretty angular. He also seems to like the Truth series.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: AlonzoHarris on January 05, 2018, 10:23:27 AM
Well, he had a hand in the Dark Matter, and that ball is pretty angular. He also seems to like the Truth series.

I guess he probably makes about any ball rolly with his release and surface.

Slightly off path but I will say I would hope that every ball company considers the opinions of their top national staffers.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: 2handedrook12 on January 05, 2018, 07:28:22 PM
Nick is still designing, Barnes is probably behind the scenes.

Barnes is probably being like that annoying guy in the group that keeps suggesting stupid stuff and they just say yes to him and actually do what they want. I will say it does seem like their line continues to be more rolly pieces like Barnes game so take that for whatever it's worth.
I think that's more so because the flippy stuff they have stays in the line up while their rolly stuff hasn't really caught. Have to say it's rather disappointing that they haven't really replaced the Dream On or Respect especially since those two caught some interest by many non Global fans. The Respect is one of my favorite balls of all time.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: D.Wright on February 01, 2018, 07:50:42 AM
I am a newbie. And I'm wondering whether to choose 900 Gobal or Storm. Please give me some suggestions on the best bowling ball for beginner?
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: HackJandy on February 01, 2018, 10:34:24 AM
I am a newbie. And I'm wondering whether to choose 900 Gobal or Storm. Please give me some suggestions on the best bowling ball for beginner?

In my opinion the first purchase every newbie should make is shoes.  A Storm Mix is an excellent ball to start with as its nearly indestructible, reasonably priced and once you get more into the sport will later make an excellent spare ball.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: RABid on March 31, 2018, 04:41:06 AM
I would like to thank everyone in this thread for feeding my G.A.S.  :P

Caused me to order an HB and X2. Yep, I'm blaiming you all.  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on March 31, 2018, 08:49:11 AM
I would like to thank everyone in this thread for feeding my G.A.S.  :P

Caused me to order an HB and X2. Yep, I'm blaiming you all.  ;D


Excellent choices, sir.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Average Joe Reviews on March 31, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
As Doom said, I feel like 900 Global fits in between Storm and Motiv (in my experience) in terms of angularity. I have been throwing 900 Global for almost a year and I am pleasantly surprised by the  quality of their products.

If I have to build a 3 ball arsenal for almost any condition it would be the Truth Tour, the Badger and the Honey Badger. (I would keep an X2 close just in case) and with those you’ll have all your bases covered except for the extremes. (heavy oil and drier conditions)

If I were limited to only a 2 ball bag for league then I would go with the Badger/Honey Badger combo. They are great pieces and they complement each other perfectly!
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on March 31, 2018, 02:34:58 PM
2 ball bag on a house shot? Oob HB and a Badger with some surface. I'm currently rethinking my bag, making some adjustments, and here is how my proposed bag is going to look.

Dream On @2k
Covert Ops 50*5*65 OOB
Covert Ops 45*4.5*30 @1k
Badger 5*65 no hole, 4k
Honey Badger 60*4.5*30 2k then polish
Drift 5*40 no hole 2k then light polish
X 5*65 2k
Boost Hybrid 5*65 OOB
Shadow Ops 45*4*30 OOB

With my game, any cover stronger than S80 is just too much and if I can't get a Boost downlane, I need to work on my loft. I'm planning on bowling some regionals and Boit Hills near me, so I think 9 covers me from stem to stern.
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Average Joe Reviews on April 10, 2018, 09:38:25 PM
2 ball bag on a house shot? Oob HB and a Badger with some surface. I'm currently rethinking my bag, making some adjustments, and here is how my proposed bag is going to look.

Dream On @2k
Covert Ops 50*5*65 OOB
Covert Ops 45*4.5*30 @1k
Badger 5*65 no hole, 4k
Honey Badger 60*4.5*30 2k then polish
Drift 5*40 no hole 2k then light polish
X 5*65 2k
Boost Hybrid 5*65 OOB
Shadow Ops 45*4*30 OOB

With my game, any cover stronger than S80 is just too much and if I can't get a Boost downlane, I need to work on my loft. I'm planning on bowling some regionals and Boit Hills near me, so I think 9 covers me from stem to stern.

Yes, Badger with some surface is working amazingly well for me. I used a fresh 2000 pad and I am able to play in my comfort zone without any major adjustments. Honestly, I feel like I’m cheating when I use this ball, I just have to keep a consistent release and the ball does the rest. It is that good.

I don’t want to sound biased because I am not. You all know I’m not a staffer and I have no ties with any company, I just believe in giving credit when credit is due and this ball deserves it!
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: billdozer on April 10, 2018, 10:39:01 PM
Dooms got a good bag!
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on April 11, 2018, 01:12:00 PM
Dooms got a good bag!

Believe me bro, I change my mind with the wind. Do I add an X2? Do I add a Truth Tour? Will the Drift and HB be too much overlap (I'm betting they will be)? Do I want to keep the On I currently have at 4k and drill an earlier one with more surface?

So many good options!!
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: billdozer on April 11, 2018, 03:37:41 PM
Dooms got a good bag!

Believe me bro, I change my mind with the wind. Do I add an X2? Do I add a Truth Tour? Will the Drift and HB be too much overlap (I'm betting they will be)? Do I want to keep the On I currently have at 4k and drill an earlier one with more surface?

So many good options!!

I wanna do a truth tour.

I like taking a IQ tour and breakdown with me for hard stuff...why not a truth tour??
Title: Re: Thinking about buying my first 900 Global
Post by: Impending Doom on April 11, 2018, 06:24:12 PM
Truth Tour looks really good, but I'm not sold on it yet. Debating on that or the X2.