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Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: Impending Doom on November 19, 2019, 03:30:49 PM
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I've been thinking about how to best showcase the differences with this.
Then, I remembered that we have the ability to compare and contrast!
Would anyone be interested in seeing the difference between a Honey Badger Urethane and a short pin to pap Claw or Money Badger Tour? I'm leaning more towards a Claw because the core is exactly the same as the HBU.
Drill the urethane 50*4*40, Drill the reactive 50*1.5*40. Angles would be the same, just the pin to pap would be different.
What say you, 900 G brothers and sisters?
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I think that'd be a great comparison with the Claw. Like you said, core is exactly the same
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Yes please! I'd love to see a real world application of this.
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Great idea. Do It!
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Whatever you do, narrate it in the voice of Kip.....or Rex.
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Whatever you do, narrate it in the voice of Kip.....or Rex.
Shall I flip a coin?
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It would be interesting to see this, but I feel I can confidently state my opinion: Short pin to PAP does not replace/compare close enough to urethane - despite what people like Mo Pinel say.
I've thrown many balls with short pins, anywhere from true pin axis to 2.5". I've also thrown many urethane balls. I've done so with both options both one handed and two handed. Outside of a few exceptions, the reactions haven't been close enough to use short pins on reactive instead of urethane. Each have their place.
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Hey Doom if u do this what reactive ball u gonna use? Also I believe
To be fair test you need to put them at same grit. I have done this before
And as the poster above me has said they are different and have their place
I believe a lot depends on ball and surface. I prefer the reactive with short pin to pap vs urethane but I understand why some people believe they need urethane. And yes I have enough have to throw urethane.
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Interested in seeing the difference in carry. I don't want to see and edited strike fest.
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Nothing really to add that hasn't already been mentioned
but would love to see this video. I'm both a urethane and short pin enthusiast due to my slow speed and being very rev dominant.
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I will take a weaker reactive with a two inch pin over a urethane any day of the week.
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I have to be honest,I used to think urethane was a good option until I put an 8k surface on my black x. That thing has been my savior
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No question, urethane is way over used at the league level. Having said that, every serious player should have one in their bag. How and when they use it will depend on their style.
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No question, urethane is way over used at the league level. Having said that, every serious player should have one in their bag. How and when they use it will depend on their style.
Why do u think that? Because u see pba guys use it? I'm a "serious player" who has won many of tourneys and never carried urethane it's a craze right now because so many pba guys are using them I see atleast 5-7 league bowlers trying to use them with zero success
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Until I see someone use urethane playing deep inside with success; I am staying with weaker reactive and 2 inch pin to PAP. So far I havent seen anyone including PBA guys get deeper than the second arrow. Always seem to be playing the outside part of the lane. I believe there is more versatility with the reactive short pin than urethane; at least from what I have seen.
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Yeah unless you are lefty with a rev rate of 400+ urethane is going to be very condition specific. As mentioned getting deep with urethane is not really an option. Still enjoy throwing urethane in practice though but to score with yeah not so much.
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I've used a Purple as deep as 5th arrow, but that's not something I would normally do. The condition I saw allow me to start around 2nd arrow and just continue to chase and keep my angles more closed. (Note: This was also in college, near flat bowling alley at a center where the gutters don't hook.) But I do agree that short pin reactives are more versatile. Urethane is definitely oversused in leagues though from the complaining I hear from others.
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I've been struggling badly with wet/dry this season but lack the requisite amount of hand to use urethane. Drilled a Tactical Ops 80x2.25x40 that I grabbed off clearance. Shot 745 last week and 738 tonight (after shooting zero 700s the first half). This is a damn good ball to use for a short pin layout. The motion reminds me of urethane with it getting into a roll early and not jumping off the dry but with the added benefit of not carrying down the oil and having just a little bit more down lane to get those pesky corners out.