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Title: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: EricThomas on September 05, 2009, 10:19:16 AM
WRW Jr.  Is officially the new newest member of the 900 Global family.  Walter started using our products early in the week along with a few others.  After matching up well and making a decent run in the World Championship we reached an agreement late last night.  

Tune in to ESPN to see how he bowled in his first televised match with Global in October.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: J_Mac on September 05, 2009, 06:22:31 PM
That was quick...
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Juggernaut on September 05, 2009, 06:22:38 PM
SEE, I told ya so.

( Well, almost. I said A.M.F., but 900G is close, especially if they let him use multiple lines like the other manufacturers are doing.)
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Edited on 9/5/2009 6:24 PM
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Cobalt Bomb on September 05, 2009, 06:40:45 PM
Blue ball up 5...
Congrats to Eric and 900G
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: EricThomas on September 05, 2009, 06:46:00 PM
Black and White ball up 5 to be exact!
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: slashrr69 on September 05, 2009, 06:59:02 PM
HOW SAD!!!
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: slashrr69 on September 05, 2009, 07:07:16 PM
4 PIN
    always the first one to call names.. grow up dude!! I have the right to my opinions as do you.. A$SWHIP!!
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: slashrr69 on September 05, 2009, 08:06:00 PM
ALL CAPS JUST FOR "SIR DOUCHEBAG", OHHH I MEAN "4PIN".... SORRY DAD I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD TO JUSTIFY MYSELF TO YOU AND YOU ALONE.. LETS JUST SAY THEY COULD HAVE PICKED SOMEONE WITH A LITTLE MORE VERSITILITY TO START..LOL.. RED BALL UP 5.. BLUE BALL UP 5.. BLK AND WHITE BALL UP 5(comments from the crowd even).. IF MY CAPS REALLY BOTHERED ANYONE(so sad..lol..)please forgive me..lol.. BUT YOU 4 PIN, FIND A SPEEDING BUS AND JUMP IN FRONT OF IT!!
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: slashrr69 on September 05, 2009, 08:08:28 PM
PS
 900 global still puts out great stuff even if walter is on the team!!
             
                                                                 go team go!!
                                                                 go team go!!
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: T_Bone on September 05, 2009, 08:27:27 PM
Walter will be a force to recon with now! I never thought he matched up well with Morich. I thought he did lots better with Brunswick. I am not saying Morich sucks or anything like that. I just thought Walter and Morich didnt work well together. I cant wait to see how well he does with 900 Global. Good luck Walter!
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: smash8-10split on September 05, 2009, 08:29:33 PM
why do you retards want to ruin a good thread from a good guy?..

Congrats Eric.  Its going to be nice to see 900G on tv more often.  Should def. boost some sales!


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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Hogsharley on September 05, 2009, 08:42:55 PM
Congrat's Eric on the signing of your newest team member. Newguy should be very happy.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: slashrr69 on September 05, 2009, 08:51:06 PM
4 PIN...LETS HOLD HANDS AND DO IT TOGETHER...LOL...PEACE BROTHA..GO GLOBAL
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: DanH78 on September 05, 2009, 09:04:02 PM
quote:
Personally i dont think the whole being a one company person is the right thing to do, every company puts out some GREAT equipment.


But that's why.  Every company puts out great stuff.  SO, you can either earn a little extra for every show you make by using a certain company to get a bonus, or you can use one company and earn a salary.  I obviously don't know the terms of the contract, but if WRW has a bad year, he's gonna earn a nice paycheck from 900, just like the other staff guys.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: mrbowlingnut on September 05, 2009, 09:11:14 PM
i agree with slashrr69, he knows some the same info on old Wally like me. Wally is not a nice guy like all think he is, I knew Eddy from Big E would not touch him.

Eddy has good reasons after me knowing them, Big E is smart to show Wally who is really the big boss and it sure ain't him!!

Karma Wally it is Karma, you went from hero to zero with me in 5 minutes flat. Not that A LEGEND WOULD CARE TO TALK WITH US LEAGUE BOWLER LOW LIFE'S, BUT BEING DECENT PERSON IS TOO MUC TO ASK IS IT NOT??

WALLY is a tool if you guys actually knew about him most will agree, cocky, arrogant and host of other names that cannot be posted.

Of course this is a opinion of just low life league bowler that was a Wally fan, have a nice day and Eric you wasted your money on this one sorry!!
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: FastTracker33 on September 05, 2009, 09:16:48 PM
That is awesome news for Walter! At this rate, with Global equipment in his hands and all possible health issues aside, I think Walter is in the run for a few more titles. In my opinion also, I don't think MoRich and Walter matched up too great.

Thanks for the update, Eric!
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Kid Jete on September 05, 2009, 09:21:18 PM
quote:
ALL CAPS JUST FOR "SIR DOUCHEBAG", OHHH I MEAN "4PIN".... SORRY DAD I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD TO JUSTIFY MYSELF TO YOU AND YOU ALONE.. LETS JUST SAY THEY COULD HAVE PICKED SOMEONE WITH A LITTLE MORE VERSITILITY TO START..LOL.. RED BALL UP 5.. BLUE BALL UP 5.. BLK AND WHITE BALL UP 5(comments from the crowd even).. IF MY CAPS REALLY BOTHERED ANYONE(so sad..lol..)please forgive me..lol.. BUT YOU 4 PIN, FIND A SPEEDING BUS AND JUMP IN FRONT OF IT!!



WRW isn't versatile?  Ooooookay.  I am starting to agree with the moron statement from a few posts ago.
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: The SuperHitMan on September 05, 2009, 09:22:46 PM
Bounty Hunter up 5!
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: sluggo35 on September 05, 2009, 09:30:24 PM
so eric maybe you guys can make a clear plastic ball with a horseshoe in it for him to use.
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Kid Jete on September 05, 2009, 09:32:41 PM
quote:
so eric maybe you guys can make a clear plastic ball with a horseshoe in it for him to use.


How sweet would that be?
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: T_Bone on September 05, 2009, 10:00:47 PM
quote:
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so eric maybe you guys can make a clear plastic ball with a horseshoe in it for him to use.


How sweet would that be?



Even better, How bout the shoe as a new weight block!!!!
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: qstick777 on September 05, 2009, 10:14:34 PM
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Black and White ball up 5 to be exact!
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Black and white?  I don't see a black and white ball listed in the current products!
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Randy T on September 05, 2009, 10:17:10 PM
Nice signing by 900 Global
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: jkiser01 on September 05, 2009, 11:05:08 PM
Congrats to Eric and the boys in SA and also congrats to WRW JR. He can now have a large selection of balls to use instead of the token "red ball up 5" . I am not saying that didn't work for him but now he will have 2 brands to play with..

I think its a win win situation for both..
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: mrbowlingnut on September 05, 2009, 11:09:26 PM
never said he was not the best bowler, just stated that I think he is waste of money for equipment sales.

The guy can win with any ball, does that equal sales well they must think he is worth the money.  

Honestly buying a million balls myself, you cannot buy natural talent and compete at that level anyway. WRW is good PR move for making appearances and being to most people what they believe him to be.

I actually thought it was good move and boom they had him signed, WRW is not Steve Jaros in personality sense but a much bigger name world wide. I would take 10 of Steve Jaro's anyday though over a WRW, i was once a huge fan of this guy until a personal meeting and finding out the real WRW.

So yes I have vendetta with the guy and since I am a nobody it really does not matter does it??
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: stormed1 on September 05, 2009, 11:30:53 PM
Congrats Eric on the signing. It will be great to see your products in his hands.  So now you have a good 1-2-3 punch on staff
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: RevZiLLa on September 06, 2009, 01:25:47 AM
Really good news!
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: max revs on September 06, 2009, 02:22:15 AM
Not a huge WRW fan but interested to see 900 global and AMF in his hands!!!! I am thinking Yellow and black ball down 5!!!!!
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: slashrr69 on September 06, 2009, 03:07:51 AM
mrbowlingnut
                +1 your AOK in my book..
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: RyanRPS on September 06, 2009, 12:14:09 PM
Walter Ray in the AMF World Cup throwing Global... good gosh he's gona lead the field by 20 Pins a game!!!

Great news Eric!

Ryan
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: TheDude on September 06, 2009, 02:10:54 PM
Its not surprising with morich putting fewer balls out, and having sales slumping. there price cut on there releases also shows a sign of weakness and lower profits.

someone had to pick up walter, and he won't touch a brunswick ball, and ebonite's hammer brand never paid out his complete contract. that leaves either storm or 900 global.

nice signing indeed.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: i_throw_strikes on September 06, 2009, 02:30:36 PM
no offense but the majority of global stuff i have thrown and saw go sideways and you got 3 strait bowlers on staff just really think thats a bit weird
 
walter should do well with the bounty line and even the maniac in the later games but it'll be interesting to see if he throwns the bpp very much seems he's always been a solid cover fan
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on September 06, 2009, 03:27:31 PM
It should be a very good partnership. I throw Storm and Roto Grip myself, for the most part. However I suspect 900 Global will match up very well with the type of ball reaction WRW is looking it get.

Perhaps I should add, I have always liked the stuff Phil had poured in San Antonio and Brigham City.

Edited on 9/6/2009 3:38 PM
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: SVstar34 on September 06, 2009, 03:44:38 PM
Awesome sign for 900 Global. We should definitely be seeing some more 900 Global on telecasts now, the 8-10 he left last season is now 10 in the pit.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on September 06, 2009, 03:50:57 PM
"mrbowlingnut   Posted: 9/5/2009 11:09 PM
So yes I have vendetta with the guy and since I am a nobody it really does not matter does it??"

You have a "vendetta with the guy" - how old are you?

We all laugh that thank goodness bowling isn't our day job. I suspect that although you as a (former) fan may want some of WRW's time - he might look at it as you taking up some of his time on the clock - and it is his day job.

Who knows, with a sponser paying some of the bills he might even talk to you next time

Lighten up dude - life is too short for this kind of thing
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: charlest on September 06, 2009, 04:21:06 PM
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someone had to pick up walter, and he won't touch a brunswick ball, and ebonite's hammer brand never paid out his complete contract.
nice signing indeed.
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While WRW may have had his problems with Ebonite, when he was with Hammer, they were not owned bY Ebonite. They were owned by Faball. So while he may have no problem with "Hammer", he does probably have "unresolved conflicts" with Ebonite, as Ebonite and as the current owner of the Hammer brand name.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: charlest on September 06, 2009, 04:22:31 PM
Om another note, I am interested on which balls he will be using while under 900Global contract.

I assume that like most others, he will be allowed to use both 900Global and AMF300 brand balls.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: mrbowlingnut on September 06, 2009, 05:20:25 PM
He is the only pro I have met in person that was a total douche bag, Met Steve Jaros a few times now great guy. WRW was a total cock and no thanks to meeting him again, he was rude to my wife who everyone gets along with.

Barnes, TJ, Couch, Bohn, Delutz, Soper all funny cool guys. WRW is dry and stale as they come, to you he might be your pal who knows and have fun.

I used to deal with Hammertruck on here that WRW would come to his house and have a BBQ everytime he was in Virginia. Hammertruck worked in AMF headquarters and was his personal friend, he could not believe WRW was rude to my wife and another lady who worked at Big E.

Could he have a bad day well maybe, but does it justify it to be an azzhole to people out there that are/were fans??

Big E will never touch him again, they stand up for there workers and should!!

Eddy is a great guy for telling WRW the way it is!!


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"mrbowlingnut   Posted: 9/5/2009 11:09 PM
So yes I have vendetta with the guy and since I am a nobody it really does not matter does it??"

You have a "vendetta with the guy" - how old are you?

We all laugh that thank goodness bowling isn't our day job. I suspect that although you as a (former) fan may want some of WRW's time - he might look at it as you taking up some of his time on the clock - and it is his day job.

Who knows, with a sponser paying some of the bills he might even talk to you next time

Lighten up dude - life is too short for this kind of thing
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: T_Bone on September 06, 2009, 06:07:06 PM
This topic is about 900 Global signing the greatest bowler of all time. I think Eric is extremely proud of this signing and he should be. It seems to me that Eric wanted to tell all of us in this forum the news first hand and for that Eric, I thank you!  This a major step towards making the 900 Global brand known by everyone. By signing WRW 900 global has assured themselves of world wide recognition which of course will mean a big increse in the sales of 900 Global and AMF equipment. Maybe I am wrong (it wont be the first or last time) but I do not think this thread should be about how WRW treated anyone poorly. I think this thread should be about 900 Global signing the best bowler in the sport and we as 900 Global fans should be excited for the 900 Global team!
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Kid Jete on September 06, 2009, 06:21:48 PM
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This topic is about 900 Global signing the greatest bowler of all time. I think Eric is extremely proud of this signing and he should be. It seems to me that Eric wanted to tell all of us in this forum the news first hand and for that Eric, I thank you!  This a major step towards making the 900 Global brand known by everyone. By signing WRW 900 global has assured themselves of world wide recognition which of course will mean a big increse in the sales of 900 Global and AMF equipment. Maybe I am wrong (it wont be the first or last time) but I do not think this thread should be about how WRW treated anyone poorly. I think this thread should be about 900 Global signing the best bowler in the sport and we as 900 Global fans should be excited for the 900 Global team!
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: SKIDSNAP on September 06, 2009, 06:41:02 PM
900 Global signed the greatest bowler of all time?

They signed Earl Anthony?!?!?!!?!?

That is a neat trick!
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: nextbowler on September 06, 2009, 10:07:10 PM
Bowlingnut--So people should not buy a bowling ball from the company that WRW
represents because you say he was rude to you and your wife?  Shouldn't they
refrain from buying from the company that he was representing at the time of
the insult?  Global 900 is only trying to get the best possible representative
of their products that they can.  I'm sure they were unaware of the grieveous
insult toward you or they never would have signed him.
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Nbgiant25 on September 06, 2009, 10:18:41 PM
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Black and White ball up 5 to be exact!
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Black and white?  I don't see a black and white ball listed in the current products!


He's referring to the Bam, which is a plastic ball, which comes in Black/White.

And great job to 900 Global for this signing!  WRW has always been my favorite pro, and I'm even more of a fan now that we'll both be representing the same company!  (Albeit our collegiate team isn't quite on his level yet...)
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: scotts33 on September 06, 2009, 10:26:06 PM
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He's referring to the Bam, which is a plastic ball, which comes in Black/White.


Individuals Will Represent Sponsors in 2009-10 Sponsor Competition.

The Lumber Liquidators PBA Tour will feature a season-long sponsor competition in 2009-10.

Sponsors are represented by three athletes, with title sponsor Lumber Liquidators teaming with six bowlers. Players were either retained from their 2008-09 sponsor or selected during a draft.

Sponsored bowlers will wear sponsor logos on their shirt backs and right sleeve and throw specially-made spare balls emblazoned with the sponsor's logo.

Here's a look at the sponsored bowlers for the 2009-10 Sponsor Competition:

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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Jay on September 07, 2009, 12:44:58 AM
Can't say I'm excited about the guy, but it's an opportunity to see more 900 Global on TV.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: mrbowlingnut on September 07, 2009, 12:56:16 AM
Do you ever just go away??? My stalker is back from the dead i see, be happy stalker I am moving in a few months.

I own and like 900global and AMF, no actually he was was with Brunswick when it happened and I still bought there brand.

Hey stalker can you buy a 900global balls before i go lol I can of miss you messing with me more so bring it on pal!!


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Bowlingnut--So people should not buy a bowling ball from the company that WRW
represents because you say he was rude to you and your wife?  Shouldn't they
refrain from buying from the company that he was representing at the time of
the insult?  Global 900 is only trying to get the best possible representative
of their products that they can.  I'm sure they were unaware of the grieveous
insult toward you or they never would have signed him.
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: nextbowler on September 07, 2009, 01:47:18 AM
1.  Can't you move sooner?
2.  Will you still continue to make these inane, ridiculuous posts?

Edited on 9/7/2009 1:52 AM
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: TheDude on September 07, 2009, 01:11:35 PM
If your employer went bankrupt or was bought by another company, and the new owner's snuffed your previous agreement i think you'd hold a grudge against the new ownership. in ebonite's defence tho its not there responsibility considering it was on the hands of previous owners. Sometimes its best to carry over or honor someone's contracts to save face or good pr.

Danny Wiseman for the same reasons will never throw another Brunswick ball with what they did to Revolution. I remember talking with him about it a tour stop and there are some bitter words thrown in.

quote:
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someone had to pick up walter, and he won't touch a brunswick ball, and ebonite's hammer brand never paid out his complete contract.
nice signing indeed.
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While WRW may have had his problems with Ebonite, when he was with Hammer, they were not owned bY Ebonite. They were owned by Faball. So while he may have no problem with "Hammer", he does probably have "unresolved conflicts" with Ebonite, as Ebonite and as the current owner of the Hammer brand name.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: JustRico on September 07, 2009, 01:21:37 PM
Please remember there are ALWAYS 2 sides to EVERY story.

Walter Ray Williams has NEVER sold a bowling ball...that is why not only Ebonite but Brunswick would not give him what he thought he was worth in a contract...he wanted from both-10 yrs for a million. No bowler is worth that. The only bowler that Brunswick would pay is Parker Bohn. He is one of the, if not the best representative and person any ball company could want-BAR NONE.

Walter Ray had no alternatives. Who was left? Storm...they have the best bowler to ever throw a bowling ball on staff...PDW.


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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: JustRico on September 07, 2009, 01:26:05 PM
And one other thing...when you hear a bowler say they would never throw a certain ball company again, for whatever reason, usually means that said ball company would not give them a ball to throw. Danny has thrown many Brunswick balls since being let go from Brunswick. And so has WRW.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: DON DRAPER on September 07, 2009, 07:43:27 PM
ric, no bowler is worth that ? didn't don carter get $100,000 a year for 10 years from ebonite ? wasn't chris barnes originally signed by columbia 300 for $125,000 for 8 years ? if both of these players can receive a million dollar contract( and carter was well past his prime ) surely the man with the most pba national titles could get one.
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: JustRico on September 07, 2009, 07:53:46 PM
WRW could not get one from either Ebonite nor Brunswick in his heyday, as I stated, he never sold a single bowling ball. What Chris and Mr. Carter bring/brought to the table is a little more than WRW. Merely winning titles does relate to ball sales. How many golfers buy a club because of how Jim Furyk or Steve Stricker swings a club...but how many sales does Nike get because of Tiger Woods? WRW is not dynamic nor does he create excitement. Chris does. There were many years, that numerous bowlers were receiving over $100K, from ball companies in the 90's, WRW being one of them. Those days are gone.
Sorry no matter how many titles WRW wins, he will not be revered such as DIck Weber, Don Carter, Earl Anthony, Parker Bohn, Pete Weber or Chris Barnes.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: srlunatic on September 07, 2009, 08:08:52 PM
JustRico,

You stated this...

WRW could not get one from either Ebonite nor Brunswick in his heyday, as I stated, he never sold a single bowling ball.

You are of course kidding correct? Do you really honestly believe this? So NO ONE in the US or anywhere bought one single ball in the pro shop after watching WRW bowl?

Sounds like some serious sour grapes to me, no matter what you may think personally of the man.


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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: KDawg77 on September 07, 2009, 08:09:55 PM
Anyone is better than mike james.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: JustRico on September 07, 2009, 08:19:43 PM
srlunatic
I have worked in the bowling industry pretty much my whole adult life.
Through most of WRW's heyday, I was either owning/running pro shops or working for a manufacturer. I know what creates sales and why certain bowlers are paid what they are. Do you think MoRich sales were what they were because of WRW? No they were because of Mo Piniel.
Why do you think WRW was not resigned by Ebonite or Brunswick?
Okay, I will admit, I remember one day, that a couple came into my shop and both bought the first Helix, because they say WRW throw one on TV the day before. BTW he was using it as a spare ball.
When I talk about ball sales, I mean when a bowler makes a show there are spikes in sales when a player works a clinic or has an appearance, it sparks ball sales.
If this is the case with WRW, why is he not similar to a Johnny Petraglia or Parker Bohn, a Jason Couch, players that are still with there original companies?
There is more than merely winning titles that equate to ball sales.
And I have nothing personal against WRW BTW. Just trying to explain what goes into signing and keeping staff players.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: REVerse on September 07, 2009, 09:20:01 PM
Nice to know WRWjr (or any other popular bowler) will be throwing 900G. I get stoked to see 900G equipment on TV. WRWjr is not my favorite bowler, but if 900G  gets some air time because of it- Cool!

Now if Phil would just get Normy to jump ship...
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: srlunatic on September 07, 2009, 10:24:35 PM
JustRico,

I have been in the bowling business about as long as you. I have had as many people come in asking what ball did WRW throw to win as I have Mr Bohn or Mr Weber or whoever.  

Now maybe he didn't meet or exceed the Brunswich expectations, I can't comment on that.  What I can say is that he will sell 900Global just by the fact it will lead to more exposure. I have already had people ask about 900Global just because WRW signed.  People will get to see the ball on TV. See how they work and yes, some will buy the ball.

Again, it just sounds like sour grapes to me.  Yes he may not be as popular as others, but to say he wouldn't sell balls or help out 900Global seems a bit sour...

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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: JustRico on September 07, 2009, 10:27:54 PM
Why would I have sour grapes towards WRW or Global? Honestly I could care less. I merely stating what I know, that's all.


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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Jorge300 on September 08, 2009, 08:10:21 AM
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He is the only pro I have met in person that was a total douche bag, Met Steve Jaros a few times now great guy. WRW was a total cock and no thanks to meeting him again, he was rude to my wife who everyone gets along with.

Barnes, TJ, Couch, Bohn, Delutz, Soper all funny cool guys. WRW is dry and stale as they come, to you he might be your pal who knows and have fun.

I used to deal with Hammertruck on here that WRW would come to his house and have a BBQ everytime he was in Virginia. Hammertruck worked in AMF headquarters and was his personal friend, he could not believe WRW was rude to my wife and another lady who worked at Big E.

Could he have a bad day well maybe, but does it justify it to be an azzhole to people out there that are/were fans??

Big E will never touch him again, they stand up for there workers and should!!

Eddy is a great guy for telling WRW the way it is!!



First off, let me say Congrats to Global on this signing. We should see a lot more of their products on TV this year.

Now to Mr. Bowling Nut....have you ever met Mark Roth? He was my favorite bowler growing up. I tried to throw the big cranker shot just like him. I got a chance to meet him once, and I saw him throw more 4-letter words then a sailor at kid who wanted his autograph between games while he was bowling a squad. He was not the nicest guy, but that doesn't change what he did on the lanes. There are plenty of bowlers, PBA members and regular league bowlers, who have great talent, yet I wouldn't want to spend 5 seconds with off the lanes. Some, like the ones you mentioned, are great guys on and off the lanes. But there is no need to come on here and bash his signing with Global over it. You don't like him, so be it. Ebonite not signing may or may not have anything to do with his attitude. Maybe he just doesn't match up well with their stuff, I know that is true for me. You need to take a chill pill, and grow up a little and get over the fact that your "hero" turned out to be an azz, it happens, people are, no matter what profession they are in.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: ccrider on September 08, 2009, 11:08:57 AM
Historically, what did Walter do for MoRich ball sales?

Don't expect he will do much more for Global ball sales. For those of you who thinks different, what has changed with WRW that is all of a sudden going to ignite his ability to sale balls?

His personality matters as far as marketing and sales go. Why should he expect the big buck endorsement if he is not willing to positively market the product. And yes, that means being nice to the common joe bowler that buys most of the balls. It also means taking the time to talk about the balls and actually giving the balls credit in part for his success.

Now, I personally don't expect any athlete to be a role model. So WRW being a jerk does not matter to me. Global is not used in my area (Alabama). Don't know of anyone throwing them. By seeing WRW using them on T.V., I might purchase one after seeing how the balls role. However, you can't tell that much from watching pros use balls on T.V.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: myhandhurts on September 08, 2009, 02:23:29 PM
I believe that balls are sold as a result of him being on staff, but not nearly as many as could be.  Let me explain.  Say WRW throws a ball in one match on tv and someone who watches it wants to buy that ball.  That is one ball sale.  Now say someone who saw that match talks to him after the match, and he says yes that is a great ball, but that was just what I used today, the rest of the week I used this other ball and it really got the job done.  Now the person he talked to wants to buy two new balls.  

WRW never does that.  He doesn't talk to people to sell them on equipment.  And when the people do get sold are more equipment things pick up momentum because now that guy with the two new balls may go and shoot big with them in a league one night and now other people in that league want those two balls.

Now take Michael Haugen for example, he does not have the television appearances of titles anywhere near WRW, but he talks to everyone. If someone asks about a ball with interest he will tell them his honest opinion.  He will asks about a ball, he will ask about their game and tell them if he thinks that ball will work or if there would be a better ball for them.  Since this helps them to get the best reaction possible with their first purchase, they are more likely to buy more than one ball from the company.
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on September 08, 2009, 11:56:54 PM
The kids sure seem to have a hard time playing "nice" in the sandbox.

I am always glad to see diversity in what is available to throw.

I am always sorry to see a company go under even if I don't throw their stuff and glad to see new companies spring up.

I am glad for the guys in San Antonio.

Be glad for the sport

Besides - you can't throw a bowling ball very well looking backwards - even if it is only to the last frame.

Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: mrbowlingnut on September 09, 2009, 02:13:00 PM
What is the difference between saying I don't care for him or saying he is all that???

You are the ones that cannot handle some guys like WRW are jerks, stated the facts straight from me and Eddy from Big E.

If you want go around and sugar coat everything and kiss there azzes go for it, how is it you need to grow up to say you had a bad experience with someone like WRW or anyone for that matter??

I sure hope they have him under contract to actually speak to customers and be nice, with his attitude he will probably not do it anyway imo.

Ric is right he does not sell balls that is beneath him, he is the elite bowler and you should all kiss his butt
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: Fringe on September 09, 2009, 02:29:01 PM
Bowlingnut,

Didn't you used to come on here and badmouth "eddy" for hiding on these boards and not replying to accusations made on br.  Not an attack on you just wondering...
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: leftyinsnellville on September 09, 2009, 02:45:29 PM
90% of celebs are tools...but I bet if you were famous, you'd probably be a tool, too.

Oh, I bet the first 1000 times some half-wit slobbers all over you might be tolerable, but eventually "fans" are going to get on your nerves.  Why?  Because most normal people who see a celeb don't bother them.  

Usually the person who asks for the autograph while the celeb is eating, or working, or bowling, etc. are the inconsiderate schmucks who also ask idiotic questions, wants the celeb to autograph a body part or 18 different items, begs for something, and/or won't allow the celeb to go on their merry way without getting rude.

I'm pretty sure that if you were friends with WRW, he'd turn out to be a pretty normal Joe...just one who happens to bowl for a living.
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: snowspike1 on September 09, 2009, 02:56:22 PM
IMHO it prob. will be good for the company just on the standpoint of their equip. making it to a tv show...

As for WRWjr selling a ball/not selling a ball.... The only comercials i remember him in were for Go Rving and Dennys...  

I have never meet the man but i would think he would/should give some credit to the sponsor/ball he uses but i have never seen him do it.

Hope everything works out for Global when it comes to him..
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: actsbowler21 on September 09, 2009, 03:12:55 PM
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Wally is not a nice guy like all think he is,


I did not think there were others who have the same feelings as I do. I no longer feel alone in my ill feelings towards "The Great One"...
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: kidlost2000 on September 09, 2009, 03:16:35 PM
wow, I posted in the other thread I hope for either 900 Global or AMF.

Both have some great equipment that WR should match up well with.

Having your equipment on TV as much as possible will sell equipment. It's advertising. That's why the companies pay what they do to be on the PBA. You don't see bowling ball commercials on tv anymore, you see actual bowlers using their equipment as their sales ad.



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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: nextbowler on September 09, 2009, 06:01:19 PM
Nut--Your post is competely irrelevant.  The personalities of most pro athletes
is not that good because everyone has catered to them all of their lives.  It
is usually best if you do not know too much about them.  Please note that I
said most-- they feel entitlement and most rules do not apply to them.  None of
this has to do with him selling bowling balls because he throws the balls of
Global.  Good luck to them, I hope this works out for you because you make good
products.

Edited on 9/9/2009 6:03 PM
Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: charlest on September 09, 2009, 07:05:39 PM
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The kids sure seem to have a hard time playing "nice" in the sandbox.

I am always glad to see diversity in what is available to throw.

I am always sorry to see a company go under even if I don't throw their stuff and glad to see new companies spring up.

I am glad for the guys in San Antonio.

Be glad for the sport

Besides - you can't throw a bowling ball very well looking backwards - even if it is only to the last frame.




I agree with all your statements.

There's a time to let it go and there's a time to pursue something. Appropos of nothing, wisedom often lies in knowing the difference.
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: LuckyLefty on September 10, 2009, 10:56:42 PM
I have never heard of Walter Ray being called "Normal".

I have heard of him being described as "different" the nice version or "Not nice" or just occassionally nice if not preoccupied with what he is doing.

I have also heard him described as "Exceptional" at throwing and winning!

It is my belief that he has sold bowling balls.  I've owned two or three that I have either seen him throw or that his name on them.
The Jade Quantum, the Pro Zone Violet(my second favorite ball), and my Walter Ray MVP(still have).

I believe he could sell a lot MORE balls if he tried one iota.  But he sells some anyway just by bowling!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. Newest member of 900 Global
Post by: srlunatic on September 11, 2009, 05:53:39 AM
JustRico,

You stated this:

Why would I have sour grapes towards WRW or Global? Honestly I could care less. I merely stating what I know, that's all.

But that isn't correct. You stated that WRW has never sold a ball, but did you know that for a fact?

Again if you just stated, well he won't sell many balls that is one thing, but from all you have stated here it sounds much more like sour grapes either personally or from the Brunswick side.  That is what I am pointing out.

See apparently you do care as you made numerous posts here....again seeming like sour grapes..

just my observations
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