Author Topic: For all of those whom think the Black Widow is a good ball... (Read 20647 times)

strikezone_sanantonio · « **on:** July 12, 2007, 10:41:03 AM »

THE BREAK by 900 Global will be out this month. Did the test about 3 weeks ago with Eric and punched the certified one today and WOW! The Break comes 4000 Abralon sanded and tested it that way with a 5 X 4 1/2 drill. It rolled up much more than the BW head to head and had more drive off the spot. We polished it up with rubbing compound and then with polish and the BW finally stood up to the performance of the Break. The Break will be one of the best balls produced this year at an affordable price - just thought I'd get this out before Bowler's Journal or BTM did.
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Bar5003 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2007, 07:40:23 PM »

Great to hear BO...mine should arrive shortly then, maybe i should put it up against the Black Widow in a head to head match up on video...hmmmm

Its not fair you live in SA...you get all the good stuff a few days before me

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katel · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:09:32 PM »

Big words...

If you compare things like "rolled up more" or "drive off the spot", don`t you think the specific condition plays the main factor !?
E.g. on a very dry condition a Power Groove have "more drive off the spot" than a Fury. So what ?

I personally don`t believe that the Break can beat (or just comes nearly) the Black Widow under medium conditions. But we will see.

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qstick777 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:19:06 PM »

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Big words...

If you compare things like "rolled up more" or "drive off the spot", don`t you think the specific condition plays the main factor !?
E.g. on a very dry condition a Power Groove have "more drive off the spot" than a Fury. So what ?

I personally don`t believe that the Break can beat (or just comes nearly) the Black Widow under medium conditions. But we will see.

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I read it to believe they threw both balls on the same conditions:

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The Break comes 4000 Abralon sanded and tested it that way with a 5 X 4 1/2 drill. It rolled up much more than the BW head to head and had more drive off the spot. We polished it up with rubbing compound and then with polish and the BW finally stood up to the performance of the Break.

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katel · « **Reply #4 on:** July 13, 2007, 05:02:55 AM »

Ok, they threw it on the same condition, but what was it ?

The Black Widow was rated by BTM 7 (heavy) 9 (medium) 5 (light) - so it`s a ball for medium or slightly medium-heavy conditions.

If the balls (break + widow)was thrown on a heavier pattern it would be no surprise to me that the break shows "more performance". It sounds good but is just marketing. That need`nt mean that The Break is a better ball than the Widow overall.

Also other things are rated by BTM - e.g. pincarry, practicability - (both Widows have an outstanding carry und work very well with many bowler styles)

I bet The Break will not be rated better than the BW or BWP from BTM for medium conditions and in total.

Maybe I am be wrong.

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qstick777 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 13, 2007, 07:10:46 AM »

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Ok, they threw it on the same condition, but what was it ?

The Black Widow was rated by BTM 7 (heavy) 9 (medium) 5 (light) - so it`s a ball for medium or slightly medium-heavy conditions.

If the balls (break + widow)was thrown on a heavier pattern it would be no surprise to me that the break shows "more performance". It sounds good but is just marketing. That need`nt mean that The Break is a better ball than the Widow overall.

Also other things are rated by BTM - e.g. pincarry, practicability - (both Widows have an outstanding carry und work very well with many bowler styles)

I bet The Break will not be rated better than the BW or BWP from BTM for medium conditions and in total.

Maybe I am be wrong.

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I understand what you are saying, and you have a valid point.

I guess we really won't know until they tell us. The description doesn't really say what conditions the ball is designed for, other than a benchmark ball.

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Description:
Clean at the front of the lane with a sharp angular motion at the breakpoint.

Introducing The Break featuring S70 coverstock designed to provide bowlers with a strong solid reactive coverstock for today's lane conditions. The S70 coverstock provides bowlers with a benchmark ball designed to be the first ball out of their bag. The S70 coverstock features resin with durability enhancing additives and uses a numeric rating system. (S10 - S90 most aggressive)

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mainzer · « **Reply #6 on:** July 13, 2007, 08:31:49 AM »

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Big words...

If you compare things like "rolled up more" or "drive off the spot", don`t you think the specific condition plays the main factor !?
E.g. on a very dry condition a Power Groove have "more drive off the spot" than a Fury. So what ?

I personally don`t believe that the Break can beat (or just comes nearly) the Black Widow under medium conditions. But we will see.

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Well Bar5003 Now I really want to see a video of the Break vs BW!

anyone else?

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katel · « **Reply #7 on:** July 13, 2007, 08:41:18 AM »

Sure ! Let the battle start...

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mainzer · « **Reply #8 on:** July 13, 2007, 09:15:30 AM »

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Sure ! Let the battle start...

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You're on dude

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Rileybowler · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2007, 09:24:31 AM »

I haven't seen a company yet that doesn't say that this is the best ball ever or the hookingest ball ever. I don't own a Black Widow but to my way of thinking on the conditions this ball was made for its going to be hard to beat and I'm not so sure that it can or will be beaten
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strikezone_sanantonio · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2007, 12:40:42 PM »

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Great to hear BO...mine should arrive shortly then, maybe i should put it up against the Black Widow in a head to head match up on video...hmmmm

Its not fair you live in SA...you get all the good stuff a few days before me
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Bar,

Both of these balls ARE MARKETED as medium to heavy oil balls. There was a significant problem with carry down with the Black Widow as we started with the 3rd game on a 37 ft pattern. Both balls have the same layout and were thrown on the same line - the BW has less than 12 games on it. Bar as the lanes transitioned, there is a considerable difference as the BW comes more behind the head pin whereas the Break doesn't stop. Allow your video to show this change.

It is my responsibility not only as a staff member but as an operator to give my customers an educated decision on what ball is better for the intended lane conditions. The Black Widow is a great ball and if it wasn't, it wouldn't be the ball of the year in 2006. But, if it is going to be marketed as med to heavy oil ball then out of my conclusions the BW cannot handle the "heavier" conditions. Overall we just found the Break to be much more versatile on the lanes.

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Bar5003 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 13, 2007, 12:59:28 PM »

Good Response BO, If i do compare it to the Widow it will be a fair and honest comparison on MULTIPLE shots...one medium light shorter pattern and one longer heavier pattern...maybe even viper vs shark or something

I will keep everyone updated on my progress with the break as well...
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RealBowler · « **Reply #12 on:** July 13, 2007, 01:06:58 PM »

How much is the Break going to cost? I've been holding out on a BW or BWP for a long time, thinking the hype was going to be followed by stories of ball death or cracking or some other horror story. Either that, or hopes of picking up a used one, but they are few and far between, and not cheap enough to justify buying used and having it plugged and re-drilled. Even thought the Angular One was going to be a better ball, but that seems to not have lived up to the hype.

I've seen the BW in action and it is nasty and I'm just about ready to pull the trigger.

If the Break is going to be released soon and at a decent price point, I might be able to wait a little while longer.
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newguy · « **Reply #13 on:** July 15, 2007, 10:36:35 AM »

I've heard the BTM rating on the Break on medium was the highest ever given. 9,9,9.5,9.5 if I recall the only other ball given such a rating was the Threshold. I was told by BTM it was the highest ever. That's the facts I've been given. I rather have the balls speak for themselves so I do not have to spend all those marketing $$$ to tell people how great we are.

fins4ever88 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 15, 2007, 10:46:52 AM »

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I've heard the BTM rating on the Break on medium was the highest ever given. 9,9,9.5,9.5 if I recall the only other ball given such a rating was the Threshold. I was told by BTM it was the highest ever. That's the facts I've been given. I rather have the balls speak for themselves so I do not have to spend all those marketing $$$ to tell people how great we are.

That's awesome. I really missed out on the Threshold, but now I have a job I'm grabbing the Break as soon as it comes out!

I remember the SR300 had some pretty high ratings in the medium category, too though.
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