Post by: strikezone_sanantonio on July 12, 2007, 10:41:03 AM
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Post by: Bar5003 on July 12, 2007, 07:40:23 PM
Its not fair you live in SA...you get all the good stuff a few days before me
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Post by: katel on July 12, 2007, 08:09:32 PM
Big words...
If you compare things like "rolled up more" or "drive off the spot", don`t you think the specific condition plays the main factor !?
E.g. on a very dry condition a Power Groove have "more drive off the spot" than a Fury. So what ?
I personally don`t believe that the Break can beat (or just comes nearly) the Black Widow under medium conditions. But we will see.
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Post by: qstick777 on July 12, 2007, 10:19:06 PM
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Big words...
If you compare things like "rolled up more" or "drive off the spot", don`t you think the specific condition plays the main factor !?
E.g. on a very dry condition a Power Groove have "more drive off the spot" than a Fury. So what ?
I personally don`t believe that the Break can beat (or just comes nearly) the Black Widow under medium conditions. But we will see.
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I read it to believe they threw both balls on the same conditions:
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The Break comes 4000 Abralon sanded and tested it that way with a 5 X 4 1/2 drill. It rolled up much more than the BW head to head and had more drive off the spot. We polished it up with rubbing compound and then with polish and the BW finally stood up to the performance of the Break.
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Post by: katel on July 13, 2007, 05:02:55 AM
Ok, they threw it on the same condition, but what was it ?
The Black Widow was rated by BTM 7 (heavy) 9 (medium) 5 (light) - so it`s a ball for medium or slightly medium-heavy conditions.
If the balls (break + widow)was thrown on a heavier pattern it would be no surprise to me that the break shows "more performance". It sounds good but is just marketing. That need`nt mean that The Break is a better ball than the Widow overall.
Also other things are rated by BTM - e.g. pincarry, practicability - (both Widows have an outstanding carry und work very well with many bowler styles)
I bet The Break will not be rated better than the BW or BWP from BTM for medium conditions and in total.
Maybe I am be wrong.
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Post by: qstick777 on July 13, 2007, 07:10:46 AM
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Ok, they threw it on the same condition, but what was it ?
The Black Widow was rated by BTM 7 (heavy) 9 (medium) 5 (light) - so it`s a ball for medium or slightly medium-heavy conditions.
If the balls (break + widow)was thrown on a heavier pattern it would be no surprise to me that the break shows "more performance". It sounds good but is just marketing. That need`nt mean that The Break is a better ball than the Widow overall.
Also other things are rated by BTM - e.g. pincarry, practicability - (both Widows have an outstanding carry und work very well with many bowler styles)
I bet The Break will not be rated better than the BW or BWP from BTM for medium conditions and in total.
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I understand what you are saying, and you have a valid point.
I guess we really won't know until they tell us. The description doesn't really say what conditions the ball is designed for, other than a benchmark ball.
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Clean at the front of the lane with a sharp angular motion at the breakpoint.
Introducing The Break featuring S70 coverstock designed to provide bowlers with a strong solid reactive coverstock for today's lane conditions. The S70 coverstock provides bowlers with a benchmark ball designed to be the first ball out of their bag. The S70 coverstock features resin with durability enhancing additives and uses a numeric rating system. (S10 - S90 most aggressive)
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Post by: mainzer on July 13, 2007, 08:31:49 AM
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Big words...
If you compare things like "rolled up more" or "drive off the spot", don`t you think the specific condition plays the main factor !?
E.g. on a very dry condition a Power Groove have "more drive off the spot" than a Fury. So what ?
I personally don`t believe that the Break can beat (or just comes nearly) the Black Widow under medium conditions. But we will see.
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Post by: katel on July 13, 2007, 08:41:18 AM
Sure ! Let the battle start...
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Sure ! Let the battle start...
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Post by: Rileybowler on July 13, 2007, 09:24:31 AM
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Post by: strikezone_sanantonio on July 13, 2007, 12:40:42 PM
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Great to hear BO...mine should arrive shortly then, maybe i should put it up against the Black Widow in a head to head match up on video...hmmmm
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Bar,
Both of these balls ARE MARKETED as medium to heavy oil balls. There was a significant problem with carry down with the Black Widow as we started with the 3rd game on a 37 ft pattern. Both balls have the same layout and were thrown on the same line - the BW has less than 12 games on it. Bar as the lanes transitioned, there is a considerable difference as the BW comes more behind the head pin whereas the Break doesn't stop. Allow your video to show this change.
It is my responsibility not only as a staff member but as an operator to give my customers an educated decision on what ball is better for the intended lane conditions. The Black Widow is a great ball and if it wasn't, it wouldn't be the ball of the year in 2006. But, if it is going to be marketed as med to heavy oil ball then out of my conclusions the BW cannot handle the "heavier" conditions. Overall we just found the Break to be much more versatile on the lanes.
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Post by: Bar5003 on July 13, 2007, 12:59:28 PM
I will keep everyone updated on my progress with the break as well...
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Post by: RealBowler on July 13, 2007, 01:06:58 PM
I've seen the BW in action and it is nasty and I'm just about ready to pull the trigger.
If the Break is going to be released soon and at a decent price point, I might be able to wait a little while longer.
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Post by: fins4ever88 on July 15, 2007, 10:46:52 AM
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I've heard the BTM rating on the Break on medium was the highest ever given. 9,9,9.5,9.5 if I recall the only other ball given such a rating was the Threshold. I was told by BTM it was the highest ever. That's the facts I've been given. I rather have the balls speak for themselves so I do not have to spend all those marketing $$$ to tell people how great we are.
That's awesome. I really missed out on the Threshold, but now I have a job I'm grabbing the Break as soon as it comes out!
I remember the SR300 had some pretty high ratings in the medium category, too though.
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Post by: sammy the sage on July 15, 2007, 01:30:43 PM
we'll see if this ball even make's (1) show...which I for one...highly doubt!
Post by: sammy the sage on July 15, 2007, 01:35:53 PM
and in case you doubt my words...the PBA man in charge of production's w/ESPN lives in my county...he used to drill on the truck...Mr. Jeff E.
Ebonite's TNV...was a distant 2nd.
Post by: slap on July 15, 2007, 03:37:24 PM
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I've heard the BTM rating on the Break on medium was the highest ever given. 9,9,9.5,9.5 if I recall the only other ball given such a rating was the Threshold. I was told by BTM it was the highest ever. That's the facts I've been given. I rather have the balls speak for themselves so I do not have to spend all those marketing $$$ to tell people how great we are.
Is that supposed to 9.9, 9.5, 9.5?
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Post by: newguy on July 15, 2007, 09:32:47 PM
BTM rated the balls not us, we are only relating what we were told. We are very happy with our first launch and believe it is only the start of something great. We should begin shipping the week of the 23rd (keeping my finger crossed).
Post by: onlybowling on July 16, 2007, 12:38:29 AM
I am looking forward to this ball.
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Post by: BShep on July 16, 2007, 01:19:48 AM
For the record, I remembered the SR300 review in BTM being talked as the highest rated ball ever. Upon checking the June/July 2006 issue, it's rated 9.5/9.5/10 for medium conditions. Within the comments section, it's stated, "The SR300 received the best ratings on this pattern that we have ever given a ball."
The SR300 didn't fly off the shelf, so hopefully The Break can exceed the BTM expectations of the SR300.
Post by: strikezone_sanantonio on July 19, 2007, 01:32:52 PM
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oh..and PS...that BW ball...was used even more extensively in the qualifing rounds...from the 1st tourney of the year to the last!
and in case you doubt my words...the PBA man in charge of production's w/ESPN lives in my county...he used to drill on the truck...Mr. Jeff E.
Ebonite's TNV...was a distant 2nd.
Ummm...OK. How many telecasts did Ebonite/Hammer make compared to Storm. There have been cases - more than the other companies - where my customers and others have experienced ball death, but other than that I have even stated it is a good ball OOB. If any one knows in bowling professional tournaments, there are more people using SOLID equipment more than pearls or particles because they give you a better read like the BW has.
The conclusions that we made were very clear that the Break was much more versatile. Let us be real about something else. How many people have you heard from about ball death and cover issues - prep or what have you - on here or any where else? I can promise that it has come more from Ebonite/Hammer than any other company. Let's be honest, there just is not everyone out there whom can afford to pay for a new ball every other month or so. Ebonite produces a great product out of the box, but they do need to make a significant change to their covers. Just to get some facts straight, Storm is making the first run on the Break.
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on July 19, 2007, 01:49:53 PM
Steve is one of the nicest and most talented players out there, i am not sure he is open to signing but he should be the guy you pick up.
Too bad you could not bring back Steve Hoskin's he was one of the best bowlers there was, he is only 38 years old and i am sure he misses the action. Tell him insurace sales is getting old and the tour needs him at least part time.
Post by: qstick777 on July 19, 2007, 02:12:59 PM
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Let's be honest, there just is not everyone out there whom can afford to pay for a new ball every other month or so. Ebonite produces a great product out of the box, but they do need to make a significant change to their covers. Just to get some facts straight, Storm is making the first run on the Break.
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I tend to agree with the statement about Ebonite's covers. I can't really say it is a good or bad thing, but I feel that if they can formulate covers to manipulate oil absorption, they can also dictate the longevity.
That may be great for those that can afford a new ball every other month and need the high performance for tournaments, etc. Not so good for Joe Schmoe league bowler that only wants to buy a new ball every few years.
Although we can't really expect to have it both ways - companies don't stay in business by making stuff that never dies - imagine never needing a new TV, car, shoes, etc. The idea of planned obsolescence is nothing new.
I'm confused about that comment about Storm. Is Storm making the first batch of Break balls, or are they being made in San Antonio (old Columbia factory)?
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Post by: sammy the sage on July 19, 2007, 02:43:24 PM
2nd...the sr300 was the highest rated ball ever by BTM...
yet one of fastest ever to be discontinued...Hmmm...and not used much on pba as well...several different conclusion's could be made or infered....but every--one will have a different take...
as far as the break being better than BW...
you'll have to pardon us while we wait to see more EVIDENCE on the NEXT BIG/GREAT/AWESOME/WHATEVER thing!!!!!!!
Post by: LuckyLefty on July 19, 2007, 02:58:56 PM
Just sort of what my eye saw...
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on July 19, 2007, 03:07:38 PM
The Bw can be made to do alot of different looks and the change of pin position over or under fingers with only 1/2" difference combined with the shift to stronger mb proves it too me.
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I always felt when watching the BW that it's strength was not how HARD it came of the spot but how smooth it came off but with continuous angularity!
Just sort of what my eye saw...
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Post by: katel on July 19, 2007, 03:53:21 PM
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Yep i have a new BW that is pin under ring 4 1/2 pin to pap and mb strong, the ball is super smooth the entire lane. My first BW was pin up with late revs and it was an over/under nightmare of how it would hook.Quote
Funny ! My BW has the described layout (pin over ring - 4 1/2" with MB strong)
and I can it play almost everywhere (inside or outside; with a good amount of oil or on pretty burnt shots).
But my opinion on the BW is the same : VERY controllable with an late and angular move, fantastic carry on almost every line -> a frustrating nightmare for the opponent...
(The pearl BW is a good ball too, but not so easy to control than her sister - more over / under - but not so bad like some Storm Pearls e.g. Domination.)
But back to topic : It seems that many bowler here think similar on the BW. Ok, the cover is high maintain stuff.
As I posted before : I can`t believe that the break can beat these odds but I am looking forward to see it in action.
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Post by: strikezone_sanantonio on July 19, 2007, 04:17:18 PM
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1st of all you compared ball's not company's...now you're comparing company's not ball's?....HELLO
2nd...the sr300 was the highest rated ball ever by BTM...
yet one of fastest ever to be discontinued...Hmmm...and not used much on pba as well...several different conclusion's could be made or infered....but every--one will have a different take...
as far as the break being better than BW...
you'll have to pardon us while we wait to see more EVIDENCE on the NEXT
BIG/GREAT/AWESOME/WHATEVER thing!!!!!!!
I have written very specific about this topic. The last reply that I made was by means of your comment about the Black Widow having the most telecasts. The same could be said about the Storm Agent, because I do remember a lot of guys throwing that ball on TV more than the BW. I wasn't trying to put a spin on anything and if I confused you or anyone else I'm sorry. Ohhh...about the NEXT, 900 Global had the name before Ebonite did.
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I was going to say the same thing. I saw a hell of a lot more Agents on TV than Black Widows, but not a whole lot of other Hammers (a few Vibes, a couple of Hawgzillas, and a couple No Mercys), whereas you saw lots of other Storms being used.... Spitfires, Dominations, Paradigms, Fired Ups, Shifts, Special Agents.... Recheck your math.
Post by: sammy the sage on July 19, 2007, 05:22:16 PM
Duh...we were writing about a specific ball...NOT company's...
storm over-all probably did best...
but the BW...I'll stand by my original statement...you really outta check your math!
Post by: sammy the sage on July 19, 2007, 05:33:07 PM
you'll see BW started in the master's...ended up in the world champioship's
I'll let you count the # of show's BW vs Agent...of course you can cheat..and add up ALL the different agent's used as one ball...that might interesting!
still...let's see what 'Break' is gonna do!
by the way...who is doing manufacturing for global?
How did this turn into a storm lovefest also?...lol's
Post by: strikezone_sanantonio on July 19, 2007, 08:19:36 PM
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all you got to do is check pba..."in the bag" section...
you'll see BW started in the master's...ended up in the world champioship's
I'll let you count the # of show's BW vs Agent...of course you can cheat..and add up ALL the different agent's used as one ball...that might interesting!
still...let's see what 'Break' is gonna do!
by the way...who is doing manufacturing for global?
How did this turn into a storm lovefest also?...lol's
You know what I just went ahead and took your advice and went to the "in the bag" section. I counted specifically THE AGENT - not double or special - which I counted (10) to the Black Widow which had (8). As I've said before, Storm is only making the Break for right now up until full production is up and running for 900 Global. 900 Global felt Storm could produce them a better benchmark ball than any other company and i tend to agree.
That's that and everyone have a good evening.
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Post by: spinner031 on July 19, 2007, 08:26:21 PM
Post by: sammy the sage on July 20, 2007, 05:50:16 AM
although when you think about it...the quality/&/quantity of the storm STAFF is far superior OVER-ALL to that of hammer...
speaks volume's in and of itself...
HOWEVER...back to the original topic
that make's the break better than the BW...HOW?
or global 900 better than hammer or storm...HOW?
Post by: qstick777 on July 20, 2007, 03:01:17 PM
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kudo's...wow...the agent was on 11 times actually...my bad...
although when you think about it...the quality/&/quantity of the storm STAFF is far superior OVER-ALL to that of hammer...
speaks volume's in and of itself...
HOWEVER...back to the original topic
that make's the break better than the BW...HOW?
or global 900 better than hammer or storm...HOW?
I think we ran into some linguistical problems along the way. I don't remember anybody ever saying the Break was BETTER than another ball, or that 900 Global was BETTER than another company.
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It rolled up much more than the BW head to head and had more drive off the spot. We polished it up with rubbing compound and then with polish and the BW finally stood up to the performance of the Break. The Break will be one of the best balls produced this year at an affordable price
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Overall we just found the Break to be much more versatile on the lanes.
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9, 9.5, 9.5 is correct I had too many ratings. BTW the BW is a great ball no doubt, sales have proven that. My question is how much money have you made from all the balls on TV? Unless you are a shop and sell only what is thrown on tv it may not be as helpful. They have a great staff and the ball worked great on tour again no dispute here, how many tour stops and tour condition have you bowled? We can only be happy with our own product and we are not trying to compete or duplicate with any other companies balls or their performance. We make balls for our own supporters, for their own arsenals.I've done that a few times in my life and have been as I'm told lucky to have a fair ball or two in my day.
BTM rated the balls not us, we are only relating what we were told. We are very happy with our first launch and believe it is only the start of something great. We should begin shipping the week of the 23rd (keeping my finger crossed).
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Post by: Juggernaut on July 22, 2007, 03:27:55 PM
1. The BW is a great ball
2. The Break matches up well to it, and in fact, covers the heavier condition better in both balls O.O.B. finish
3. The Break has recieved the higherst rating ever from BTM magazine.
4. Katel likes the BW.
Sounds to me like you've got two really good balls here. Being no two balls are IDENTICAL, one has to be a little different at something, so the break is better ( a bit ) on heavier conditions, in box finish, that the BW.
Given that the Break is just new and out on the market, curiosity will be high as to what it is comparable to. From all this, I gather that, once again, Phil has proven his ability to design and produce a top-notch, perofrmance ball that is going to be comparable to one of the so called "established" best balls on the market. In fact, the "Ball of the Year" for 2006.
Not bad for an initial release, huh? Wonder what he will produce with a little more practice???????????
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Post by: Den Olano on July 22, 2007, 04:02:21 PM
Who is making the G-Force SuperNova for Lane 1 right now?
Post by: williewc on July 22, 2007, 07:50:58 PM
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Post by: strikezone_sanantonio on July 24, 2007, 11:58:44 AM
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Is 900 Global, (balls and shoes) going to be registered with the PBA?
I will check.
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Post by: joeschmoe on July 25, 2007, 11:37:27 AM
I thought I read somewhere that Storm bought a section of the San Antonio plant????
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Post by: strikezone_sanantonio on July 30, 2007, 12:46:53 PM
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THE BREAK by 900 Global will be out this month. Did the test about 3 weeks ago with Eric and punched the certified one today and WOW! The Break comes 4000 Abralon sanded and tested it that way with a 5 X 4 1/2 drill. It rolled up much more than the BW head to head and had more drive off the spot. We polished it up with rubbing compound and then with polish and the BW finally stood up to the performance of the Break. The Break will be one of the best balls produced this year at an affordable price - just thought I'd get this out before Bowler's Journal or BTM did.
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Wow, I guess it depends on your definition of affordable! I have yet to find anybody that is quoting a price of less than $140 shipped.
I can get the BW for $120 shipped, so I would hope that it would outperform it!
I guess I'll sit on the fence for this release, especially since the Break is being made by Storm - I don't have a lot of good experiences with Storm. $140 for something new, from a "new" company might be asking a little too much.
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Post by: qstick777 on July 30, 2007, 02:47:30 PM
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THE BREAK by 900 Global will be out this month. Did the test about 3 weeks ago with Eric and punched the certified one today and WOW! The Break comes 4000 Abralon sanded and tested it that way with a 5 X 4 1/2 drill. It rolled up much more than the BW head to head and had more drive off the spot. We polished it up with rubbing compound and then with polish and the BW finally stood up to the performance of the Break. The Break will be one of the best balls produced this year at an affordable price - just thought I'd get this out before Bowler's Journal or BTM did.
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Wow, I guess it depends on your definition of affordable! I have yet to find anybody that is quoting a price of less than $140 shipped.
I can get the BW for $120 shipped, so I would hope that it would outperform it!
I guess I'll sit on the fence for this release, especially since the Break is being made by Storm - I don't have a lot of good experiences with Storm. $140 for something new, from a "new" company might be asking a little too much.
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Sounds like the going rate for a premium ball these days. Fury Series, NV Series, No Mercy, Track The Rising, and Columbia Resurgence balls are all right around $139.95.
If The Break is their premium ball, no reason not to sell it at the same price point. I agree you might not want to compare to a lesser priced ball - Brunswick wouldn't compare a Fury to something in the BVP series. Either way, it sounds like the Break is a solid performer, and we've all seen/read what the BW can do.
I guess you can argue that they are a new company, but I think their past history lends some credibility - you can't lump them into a group with Banger and Insite (not that there is anything wrong with those companies, they seem to have good products).
If you don't want to buy the ball, don't buy it. Maybe you can pick up a used one for a better price. I for one am looking forward to seeing the ball in action.
All this talk about a ball that just started shipping today.....can't wait to it's actually available for sale and to see some videos!
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Post by: Rileybowler on July 30, 2007, 03:03:05 PM
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Post by: newguy on August 07, 2007, 09:12:18 AM
This is similar to us building Tropicals for Storm it is their core and their resins.
The Break is not a Storm ball, it is a Global ball.
Post by: charlest on August 07, 2007, 05:25:07 PM
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I'm surprised at the responses and questions. We had the BREAK built at Storm so we could assure ourselves a product for this bowling season. This was based on us reassembling the plant. That process went quicker than we had thought so we are currently building other product. AMF Heist, Orbit Extreme and the 900 Global Creature. The Break was built by Storm using our core and our resin formula.
This is similar to us building Tropicals for Storm it is their core and their resins.
The Break is not a Storm ball, it is a Global ball.
Some people just have ZERO common sense or they choose not to read some information. I have no idea which.
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Post by: newguy on August 09, 2007, 08:38:39 AM
Strikezone threw the ball and posted his opinion, 20 people who have never seen the ball go down the lane have come up with everything from the ball isn't what he said it was to it's a Storm ball.
Tell me that wouldn't be a bit surprising to you?
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Post by: KDawg77 on August 09, 2007, 09:00:53 AM
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Post by: newguy on August 09, 2007, 09:15:44 AM
Post by: qstick777 on August 14, 2007, 04:07:55 PM
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http://900global.com/break.htm
2.48
0.058
.024 MB
http://bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2883
2.46
0.056
.027 MB
I was confused with all of the ones, after more research, its more like the Infinite One to me, doesnt matter, I am still getting one.
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IF I ever see one for sale, I'll probably buy one. Still haven't seen them available.
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Post by: EricThomas on August 15, 2007, 11:50:23 AM
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