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strikezone_sanantonio

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New Releases' coming soon...
« on: September 27, 2007, 09:02:25 AM »
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qstick777

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Re: New Releases' coming soon...
« Reply #61 on: October 04, 2007, 04:47:54 PM »
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Price point, 457,000 league bowlers that bowl in AMF centers most of them are entry, handicapp league or recreation bowlers. Many get hung up on performance when a 150 avg bowler would do better with a pancake ball and learn to bowl learning to hook it rather than buy a hook.


I suppose.

Here's what I see:

Plastic: $40-60 drilled.

Entry level reactive (PowerGrooves, Orbits, Jazz, Tropical): $75-100 drilled.

Mid-performance (Bash/Clash, BVP, Planet series): $129-159 drilled.

High-performance (Heist, No Mercy, Fury, BW, Paradigms, NV/One series): $189-229 drilled.

Without knowing price points, I don't see a whole lot of shops pushing a pancake block over a Power Groove, Orbit Xtreme, or Tropical Storm.

With shops charging $40-60 (or more) for drilling, they don't make a whole lot on the entry level stuff.

I can go on-line (because don't we all shop on-line?) and it's going to run me $49 for a plastic ball.  I think the local shop sells them for that price with drilling.

An Orbit Xtreme or Power Groove is going to run me around $65 on-line.  Since I started drilling my own stuff I haven't been to local shop in a while, but I think the Power Groove was going for around $90 drilled.  I almost crapped my pants last year when I took my Orbit Xtreme in and paid somewhere close to $70 for drilling (with grips and slug).  I could've probably had them order the ball and drill it for under $100.

^^^  Heck, for some of those balls it's a better deal for me to buy from the local shop - let them warranty the ball.  And at least I know that they know what they're doing  - can't say the same when I drill the ball!  I'm just a garage drilling hack

I guess my point is, for something under $100 I don't see the gain for the pro shops.  Maybe it's the potential to gain a customer, sell them some accessories, or something else.  When you are charging $50 for a blank drill and selling a ball for $60-70 you have to be cheating yourself somewhere.

You still have to measure the hand, draw the lines, fire up the drill and use the same drill bits regardless if you're drilling plastic, urethane, or reactive.  Using the same resources either way.
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Re: New Releases' coming soon...
« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2007, 02:43:59 AM »
you know.. i would love to see them come out with a remake of the nighthawk menace.  im sure that being they came out with a pearl, that a particle nighthawk is in the works, as well as a particle pearl highthawk.  good think i kept my menace (which i love), and my nighthawk revenge.  

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Re: New Releases' coming soon...
« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2007, 10:55:59 AM »
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Price point, 457,000 league bowlers that bowl in AMF centers most of them are entry, handicapp league or recreation bowlers. Many get hung up on performance when a 150 avg bowler would do better with a pancake ball and learn to bowl learning to hook it rather than buy a hook.


Very true, newguy.

I was just thinking about the old Faball Hammers versus using pancake blocks in terms of a "performance" entry-level piece. Still, price point is very important. Thanks for replying.
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Re: New Releases' coming soon...
« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2007, 11:07:52 AM »
can i ask a rather simplistic question. i was out of bowling for 10 plus years till i started again a little of 4 years ago. would a pancake core even with a resin cover hook at all on todays conditions unless you are a cranker? i just wondered what the value of one would be?
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Re: New Releases' coming soon...
« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2007, 11:11:10 AM »
I would hook quite well, you would simply be able to stand closer to the dry part of the lane and use the oil line as hold. You would create angle of entry by the part of the lane you are playing not the backend created by the ball path of the stronger flaring balls.