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Title: New Bull Whip
Post by: TheGame300 on June 16, 2012, 07:34:39 PM
Drilled the new Bull Whip for myself but have not gotten to throw it yet.  Just wanted to get a picture up of it.  I will update this with a review once I get my other new AMF/900 Global weapons in.
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: mmcniel on July 09, 2012, 06:23:00 PM
First off, I love retro equipment.  Not to go off on a tangent, but for years I have collected   older pieces.  I love the roll, the predictability and smoothness that the balls back then offered.  If your like me, then this is the ball for you!  The Bull Whip is exactly what is was but better.  Like the ball was given an injection of HGH.  Super clean, super predictable and yep, hits like a truck.  This is a ball that allows me to play in, out and everywhere in between. I have mine laid out pin over bridge, with cg swung out 1/2 from my centerline.  This keeps the ball from flaring too much and gives me more roll and control on the back part of the lane.  This would be a great ball for someone who is looking for that “go to” ball when the lanes get tricky and start to deteriorate.
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: TheGame300 on July 11, 2012, 06:33:40 AM
I would totally agree.  I keep laughing because for me at least I love this Bull Whip more than any other in the new line from AMF and 900 Global.  I just have had a great look with it.  The other stuff is good too but I think this ball would surprise a lot of people.
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: TheDude on July 11, 2012, 09:14:17 PM
Im really interested in seeing this ball and wouldn't mind trying it out. It sure beats remaking the heat over and over and overt......
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: Impending Doom on July 11, 2012, 09:24:23 PM
Hey hey hey, the Heat core is awesome!

Personally, I think the weight block looks like the old Track FreakAZoid core in shape. Numbers are different, but that's what it reminds me of.

Im really interested in seeing this ball and wouldn't mind trying it out. It sure beats remaking the heat over and over and overt......
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: TheDude on July 11, 2012, 09:34:21 PM
It WAS good. It has been remade, I think in 5 different reincarnations.

I know your going to say storm has done it with the thunder road core, but atleast they keep it fresh.

Besides the bullwhip is now using a BASF formulated cover right, not wtv ebonite used back in the 90s. Excitement still abound!
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: Impending Doom on July 12, 2012, 10:21:10 AM
Hey, recycling cores is the way of the world. V2, Apex, Break, lightbulb, etc etc etc. If it works, use it!

For me, the Heat core works. When I can, I will be buying my first Radical ball, the Torrid. If you know it works for you, use it.
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: TheDude on July 12, 2012, 11:28:12 AM
I agree Doom, its better to know what works even if its old, rather than constantly searching.
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: 9orbetter on July 20, 2012, 04:05:21 PM
Have my Bullwhip waiting in the proshop. Will drill up on Monday and post some pics with a mini review.
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: Rightycomplex on July 21, 2012, 08:45:21 PM
Same here 9,

Waiting on mine. Got the original and gonna do a comparison vid, hopefully, if i can figure out how this movie editor works.
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: 9orbetter on July 24, 2012, 10:57:45 PM


They have arrived!!!!!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/BullWhip2.jpg (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/BullWhip2.jpg)
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/Cobra2.jpg (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/Cobra2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: Rightycomplex on July 26, 2012, 03:54:13 PM
Good luck 9,

Look forward to your review. Still waiting on mine.
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: Impending Doom on July 29, 2012, 10:32:20 AM
Love the layout on the Cobra. Tell us how you like them!



They have arrived!!!!!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/BullWhip2.jpg (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/BullWhip2.jpg)
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/Cobra2.jpg (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/Cobra2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: 9orbetter on July 29, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
My mini review: Used on the Kegel WTB Stockholm 34' pattern.

Didn't bowl well but good enough to beat the 3 bowlers on my pair. I believe I used the wrong breakpoint but played the lane as dictated. Ball squirted past the breakpoint if I didnt stay behind it. Not a good matchup for me, should have used the Cobra which I will use on the 33' Sydney pattern next.

Now on a THS it's a totally different beast. Ten back, messengers and light hits galore. Definitely will be used in my fall league. Used it again today at the Demo Supershow @Farmingdale Lanes, NY alongside the other great 900/AMF pieces. I was not disappointed. Money will be well spent in the next few weeks..lol (ie; Freight Train, Look, Wisdom).   

@Impending Doom, I tried the Cobra on THS and for me its truly a benchmark ball. So smooth. I will update after league this week.

Last note, I would like to thank Eric Thomas for a great showing at the demo day. Big Ups to 900/AMF....Keith
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: Jesse James on August 01, 2012, 04:31:11 PM
Both of those balls look just like their original cousins!

I loved the Bull Whip! That's what I shot my third highest set ever, with.
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: Artimust on August 14, 2012, 02:19:55 PM
Going to use the Bull Whip tonite on the 34' Stockholm pattern. Will update scores and lane play later
So.....how do you like the Bullwhip? 
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: chrisk300 on September 04, 2012, 06:40:29 AM
This ball is awesome!  It is everything it was hyped up to be and more.  I love the length, angularity, hitting power and drive thru the pins.  I drilled mine straight up and down with the pin above the bridge about 5" from my PAP and the CG in the middle of my palm.  AMF hit a home run with this ball.  Thanks 900 Global/AMF.
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: JPbowling151 on September 29, 2012, 12:09:43 PM
Hello, I'm in the market to purchase a the new Bull Whip SE or the Green Mamba. Will the Green Mamba create more of a skid/flip reaction than the Bull Whip? I'm looking for the ball that will give me the most energy retention/flip at the backend. I throw the ball fairly slow at 15mph. I realize the Bull Whip uses a symmetrical weight block as oppose to an asymmetrical block used in the Green Mamba. It's my understanding symmetrical balls are more controllable and don't react as hard off the dry as an asymmetrical pearl? So would it be safe to say the Mamba would offer the most backend off the dry? Any help would be appreciated!


I'm no bowling expert so please bear with me! lol
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: Rightycomplex on September 29, 2012, 03:06:25 PM
A bullwhip SE is going to be flippier than a Green Mamba. The Mamba is going to be for oil and the bullwhip is going to be for dry. The Mamba is going to make you move deeper than the bullwhip SE. Check out 900/AMFs  website and look at the vids they have available. They will do a great job of explaining.
 
Hello, I'm in the market to purchase a the new Bull Whip SE or the Green Mamba. Will the Green Mamba create more of a skid/flip reaction than the Bull Whip? I'm looking for the ball that will give me the most energy retention/flip at the backend. I throw the ball fairly slow at 15mph. I realize the Bull Whip uses a symmetrical weight block as oppose to an asymmetrical block used in the Green Mamba. It's my understanding symmetrical balls are more controllable and don't react as hard off the dry as an asymmetrical pearl? So would it be safe to say the Mamba would offer the most backend off the dry? Any help would be appreciated!


I'm no bowling expert so please bear with me! lol
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: Tex on October 14, 2012, 04:33:49 PM
I wouldn't say the Bullwhip is for drier, but it is a pearl so not for the flood for sure. I tossed a few shots with the Green Mamba at the Demo Days and reminded me of the Bank or Bank Roll. It uses the SRC core so like the Bank series is all up to using that core. With the slower ball speed you mention I am going out on a limb and say you should be able to use a longer pin and get a sharper angle when the core turns over. My Bank is drilled pin over the bridge and with light polish I can get the skid flip reaction just have to watch not to over throw the ball. I have the Bullwhip and it is a great piece and does remind me of the original just on steroids. Pure skid flip reaction. My current house condition is too dry for either ball, so neither of these or my now Look get any action. The Look is another major flip reaction you could consider.
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: 9orbetter on October 29, 2012, 05:46:36 PM
Updated review:
I believe I needed to break in the cover to get the reaction I was expecting and very happy with on THS and sport patterns. Used on the Kegel Broadway 37', very predicable, smooth and carry was excellent.

Pic of layout in my signature link. Not quite sure how to get a full pic on the post yet.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/BullWhip2.jpg (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/BullWhip2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: Rightycomplex on October 29, 2012, 06:07:04 PM
Drill out the pin, 9?


Updated review:
I believe I needed to break in the cover to get the reaction I was expecting and very happy with on THS and sport patterns. Used on the Kegel Broadway 37', very predicable, smooth and carry was excellent.

Pic of layout in my signature link. Not quite sure how to get a full pic on the post yet.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/BullWhip2.jpg (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/9orbetter/AMF-900Global/BullWhip2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Bull Whip
Post by: 9orbetter on October 29, 2012, 07:01:26 PM
Yes , pin in ring finger.