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Title: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: charlest on March 27, 2015, 06:54:35 AM
This is it:
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/accessories/detail/slide-stone/ (http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/accessories/detail/slide-stone/)

This seems to be a new-ish product to add slide to your sole. A teammate showed it to me last night and said it's legal at Nationals (one of the fussiest places) and everywhere.

My question is how does it work.  It seems like a just a hard piece of marble-like material. It must leave no residue for it to be legal all the time.

I'm worried if it works by flattening out any standing fibers on the sole. If it does that, it may flatten them out permanently. I wonder if a nylon brush could restore the sole for the next time when the approaches aren't so slippery.

I don't really want to experiment and destroy $15-20 sole replacements.
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: Dogtown on March 27, 2015, 07:22:34 AM
It looks like soap stone glued to the bottom of a wood handle.  People have been using soap stone for years on the bottom of shoes.  You can buy it at any hardware store.
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: charlest on March 27, 2015, 07:35:08 AM
It looks like soap stone glued to the bottom of a wood handle.  People have been using soap stone for years on the bottom of shoes.  You can buy it at any hardware store.
It looks like soap stone glued to the bottom of a wood handle.  People have been using soap stone for years on the bottom of shoes.  You can buy it at any hardware store.

Around here, Home Depot and Lowe's have put virtually every hardware business out of business, except for a few scattered Ace Hardware stores, which I used to love to browse.

But I understand what you're saying. Thank you. I'll see if I can find a piece of soapstone somewhere locally.

Do you think this means that pieces or particles of the soapstone somehow adhere to the sole or does the stone just press the nap flatter?
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: itsallaboutme on March 27, 2015, 08:06:55 AM
A little bit of material will come off the stone.  Welders use it to mark steel as it won't melt.  You can also find it any place that sells welding supplies.

I would be surprised if it is legal for use at nationals as it does put a foreign substance on the sole, just much less than a bag of easy slide.
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on March 27, 2015, 08:17:00 AM
Soapstone is high in talc content, thus the slide, except it doesn't come off on the approach to bother another bowler.  Good stuff to have in a pinch.

You can brush your shoe and get it off again should you want to. 
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: charlest on March 27, 2015, 09:25:31 AM
Thanks for the low down, guys.

I did order one to try. When you stick on tacky synthetic approaches with a Dexter #12 slide, it's time to find some options.  ;)
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: spmcgivern on March 27, 2015, 09:34:38 AM
I haven't seen too many people rub the stone on their shoes.  Instead, they scrape off some of the material into a powder then apply that to the shoe.  But I haven't seen anyone with one in several years.
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: charlest on March 27, 2015, 09:45:15 AM
I haven't seen too many people rub the stone on their shoes.  Instead, they scrape off some of the material into a powder then apply that to the shoe.  But I haven't seen anyone with one in several years.

if they do that, then they might as well use something like Easy Slide, very cautiously. But people tend NOT to be cautious with things like Easy Slide or baby powder.
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: luv2C10falll on March 27, 2015, 09:51:54 AM
Soapstone works really well. I've had it in my bag for a few years now. I like it cause it doesn't mess with the other guys approach and gives me slide when I need it
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: Aloarjr810 on March 27, 2015, 10:01:31 AM
Around here, Home Depot and Lowe's have put virtually every hardware business out of business, except for a few scattered Ace Hardware stores, which I used to love to browse.

Check fabric stores also, soapstone was used in clothes making also.

Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: luv2C10falll on March 27, 2015, 10:36:30 AM
I found mine in the welding section at a home depot
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: charlest on March 27, 2015, 12:25:35 PM
I found mine in the welding section at a home depot

Now that's a good hint. Thanks.
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: Aloarjr810 on March 27, 2015, 04:41:07 PM
I don't know if this is brunswicks, but I found the patent for it.

http://www.google.com/patents/US20050177963 (http://www.google.com/patents/US20050177963)

"The present invention provides an applicator comprising a body of solid  soapstone or appropriate lubricant in a holder or handle for applying  the soapstone to a bowling shoe sole."


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Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 27, 2015, 05:20:42 PM
I do not like to slide a lot buy ive always carried it in case of stepping in water it works really well to help get slide back quickly.  Ive had interchangeable shoes for years but its a must have just in case.  My dad brought me some home from work back when I started bowling in 96' and I still have it in the bag.
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: charlest on March 27, 2015, 06:51:50 PM
I found mine in the welding section at a home depot

That's exactly where I found it today. This one is long, 1/2" x 3/16" x 5", but I got 4 of them for $3.50. Also have the Brunswick one on order from Cliff Barnes Ebay Pro shop.
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: Aloarjr810 on March 29, 2015, 03:41:57 PM
Okay Quick do it yourself slidestone!

1 small piece of wood and a couple of pieces of soapstone:


(https://www.ballreviews.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs5.postimg.org%2F4q2zkcvev%2Fdiyslidestone.jpg&hash=dcafa67e773a09121ee82242566bb12817b08408)
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: charlest on March 29, 2015, 07:00:01 PM
Okay Quick do it yourself slidestone!

1 small piece of wood and a couple of pieces of soapstone:


(https://www.ballreviews.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs5.postimg.org%2F4q2zkcvev%2Fdiyslidestone.jpg&hash=dcafa67e773a09121ee82242566bb12817b08408)

So what wood did you use and which glue?
I got some soapstone pieces  and I have lots of wood (amateur woodworker, when the mood hits me).
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: Aloarjr810 on March 29, 2015, 07:35:11 PM
So what wood did you use and which glue?
I got some soapstone pieces  and I have lots of wood (amateur woodworker, when the mood hits me).

The wood was a piece of cypress 3/4"x1"x1 1/2"

For glue I used some rubber cement (I figured I could peel them back off easy if I had too), and it seems to be holding well.

I got the soapstone at Lowes, 7 pieces for $3.
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: charlest on March 29, 2015, 07:48:46 PM
So what wood did you use and which glue?
I got some soapstone pieces  and I have lots of wood (amateur woodworker, when the mood hits me).

The wood was a piece of cypress 3/4"x1"x1 1/2"

For glue I used some rubber cement (I figured I could peel them back off easy if I had too), and it seems to be holding well.

I got the soapstone at Lowes, 7 pieces for $3.


I got it in the welding section of Home Depot, as was suggested above. I got one piece in a holder (not sure how welders use it) and 3 spare pieces.

I had a piece of pine of an appropriate size, cut my soapstone into the same lengths as the pine using a hacksaw blade (boy, is this stuff soft; it is just solid talcum powder) and used Goop to glue two pieces. Goop is a rubbery cement. I've got it camped now. We'll see in 24 hours how it holds. If it does I have one more piece to cut and glue.

It seems to me that this is just solid talcum powder; the powder comes off with any pressure. I just don't see how this is any more legal than judiciously applied Easy Slide or baby powder (which is just talc or talcum powder.). It seems like you have to be very careful not to get the powder, which you create when you rub the stone, all over, just like the above two items.
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: Aloarjr810 on March 29, 2015, 08:37:25 PM

I got it in the welding section of Home Depot, as was suggested above. I got one piece in a holder (not sure how welders use it) and 3 spare pieces.
Welders, carpenters and others use it for a marker. It holds up under heat and you can still see it. The marks are visible and not permanent.


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It seems to me that this is just solid talcum powder; the powder comes off with any pressure.
Basically that's what it is compressed talc.

 
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I just don't see how this is  than judiciously applied Easy Slide or baby powder (which is just talc or talcum powder.). It seems like you have to be very careful not to get the powder, which you create when you rub the stone, all over, just like the above two items.

As far as the legality, it's not any more legal as those as far as I know.

I think it's safer though,when the stick is just rubbed on the soles it doesn't leave a lot of residue that can get all over the approach like easy slide does.

Now if your shaving it, that's another story it can make a lot of powder. (some guys did that too get a lot powder)
Title: Re: Brunswick Slide Stone
Post by: charlest on March 29, 2015, 09:50:10 PM
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As far as the legality, it's not any more legal as those as far as I know.

I think it's safer though,when the stick is just rubbed on the soles it doesn't leave a lot of residue that can get all over the approach like easy slide does.

Now if your shaving it, that's another story it can make a lot of powder. (some guys did that too get a lot powder)

Yes, I guess rubbing a stone on your shoe is not nearly as messy as a powder, with which some people are very sloppy.

When I sawed my piece, a LOT of powder was released to float to the floor.