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Walking E

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Motiv 2+2 Bags
« on: May 03, 2022, 02:23:25 PM »
I see some new Motiv 2+2 roller bags and they are very attractive, but HOLY MOLY - that price is brutal ($399.95 suggested, $369.95 on various websites). Does anybody know if these are manufactured by KR Strikeforce?

 

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Re: Motiv 2+2 Bags
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2022, 02:55:10 PM »
I just received one that I ordered while in Vegas for the Open. My local pro shop doesn't have the ability to get them somehow.

I have the Black with orange trim 4 ball roller. It also has Vault on the front for some reason, but it's exactly like the KR bags Brunswick used to carry. It's a bit wider than my old Storm Rolling Thunder and probably 4 inches taller. Ironically, even though it's larger, the pockets are smaller.

So I guess the answer is yes in my opinion, KR is making them. Very well built though, better than the Rolling Thunder line that Storm has been putting out the last few years. I'm happy with it although I was originally looking for a Storm bag.

https://www.buddiesproshop.com/hard-to-find/motiv-vault-4-ball-roller-black-orange/
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Re: Motiv 2+2 Bags
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2022, 03:22:18 PM »
I just received one that I ordered while in Vegas for the Open. My local pro shop doesn't have the ability to get them somehow.

I have the Black with orange trim 4 ball roller. It also has Vault on the front for some reason, but it's exactly like the KR bags Brunswick used to carry. It's a bit wider than my old Storm Rolling Thunder and probably 4 inches taller. Ironically, even though it's larger, the pockets are smaller.

So I guess the answer is yes in my opinion, KR is making them. Very well built though, better than the Rolling Thunder line that Storm has been putting out the last few years. I'm happy with it although I was originally looking for a Storm bag.

https://www.buddiesproshop.com/hard-to-find/motiv-vault-4-ball-roller-black-orange/

I appreciate your comparison to the Rolling Thunder bag. I've had my Rolling Thunder bag for probably 16 years and it's getting ready for replacement. I had always considered the Rolling Thunders to be the Gold Standard of 2+2 bags. Even the Rolling Thunder bags are now appearing for $319.99.

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Re: Motiv 2+2 Bags
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2022, 05:09:53 PM »
I always thought of the Rolling Thunder bags as the best as well. Until this last one, actually the last two as the wheels fell apart on the first of the two and instead of ordering new wheels my pro shop replaced the entire bag. But it took less than a year for the same thing to happen.

This new Motiv bag look to be as sturdy as the older Rolling Thunder bags. The only real advantage I can see with the Rolling Thunder bag is the larger pockets.
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Re: Motiv 2+2 Bags
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2022, 05:16:06 PM »
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Re: Motiv 2+2 Bags
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2022, 08:31:25 PM »
How is the maneuverability of the Motiv bag? That's another thing I liked about the Rolling Thunder - it seemed that the 3-wheel design made it easier to turn. Of course, the wheels fell off of yours and that tends to inhibit maneuverability.  ::)

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Re: Motiv 2+2 Bags
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2022, 08:44:02 AM »
Does the handle on these Motiv/KR/Brunswick bags collapse as far as the Storm Rolling Thunders?  I have read that the handles do not lower as far and it can make lifting and loading the lower half in to a vehicle kind of a challenge.


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Re: Motiv 2+2 Bags
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2022, 09:56:26 AM »
I find the Motiv bag to be more maneuverable than the Storm bag actually. The wheels on the Motiv bag roll easier in my opinion and the bag has a natural rear tilt where the Rolling Thunder seemed to have a slight forward tilt if not neutral.

I used it for the first time last night, and there are some differences that will take some getting used to. The handle on the Motiv bag doesn't collapse as far down as the Rolling Thunder bag, perhaps by as much as 6 inches. This makes picking up the bottom half and putting in the trunk of a car a different motion, but nothing I can't get used to the change.

One issue I would have never guessed is the Motiv bag wheels are set back from the bottom of the bag a bit. Where the Rolling Thunder wheels are pretty much flush with the back of the bag, the Motiv wheels stick out maybe an inch or so. This causes the Motiv bag to more readily slide around(front to back) in your trunk. The Storm bag never had this issue as the entire back of the lower part of the bag came into direct contact with the floor of the trunk. With the Motiv wheels protruding out, the wheels and a single point of contact of the handle support allows for the bag to slide back and forth much easier when the car is in motion. This can be solved by setting the top half on the handles.

The other thing I noticed is the Rolling Thunder handle is a one hand operation to raise and lower the handle as the release is part of the hand grip. The Motiv bag has a button that has to be depressed lower down on the handle which makes it require both hands to operate.

I still like the quality build of the Motiv bag over what my last Rolling Thunder had though.
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Re: Motiv 2+2 Bags
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2022, 09:59:20 AM »
One other thing to note. The side handles on the Motiv bag are cloth and lay flat against the sides. The Rolling Thunder has rigid handles that stick out about an inch on either side even when folded down. If you are hauling more than one bag in your trunk, this might be the difference between having two of them side by side instead of being offset to allow for clearance of the handles.
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Re: Motiv 2+2 Bags
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2022, 12:55:03 AM »
Thanks again, Milo!

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Re: Motiv 2+2 Bags
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2022, 10:27:33 AM »
>> Ironically, even though it's larger, the pockets are smaller.

Which is exactly why I won't buy a KR bag. I've Emailed them about this issue and they don't seem to care. The bags are high quality, yes. Increase the pocket sizes and they would be the best. It's not rocket science. The font pocket can't even hold a sheet of paper folded in half. I like to keep rules, lane assignments and other papers in that pocket. No can do with KR.
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