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Title: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: charlest on January 12, 2008, 01:30:40 PM
I don't remember when, but sometime way back I decided I liked Master brand white textured thumb hole tape best. Trying to think back why, I kind of remember only comparing it to AMF's tape.

Recently, just to test some others, I ordered some small packs of Brunswick's and Ebonite's white textured thumb hole tape.

Surprising myself, I find them all three brands, Master, Brunswick, and Ebonite, equally good, with no discernible differences that I can tell. Makes me wonder if the original supplier to all three bowling supply companies is the same manufacturer.

Any and all comments on your experiences are welcome. I just thought I'd throw out what I have found.

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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: CoachLefty on January 12, 2008, 09:41:36 PM
I think the master tape is slightly more gritty than the others, and since i am like the only person in the world who likes texture at the back of my thumb i use that.
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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on January 12, 2008, 10:29:12 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but when you say back of the thumb, are you referring to the nail side or the pad side?

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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: themagician on January 12, 2008, 10:31:03 PM
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Pardon my ignorance, but when you say back of the thumb, are you referring to the nail side or the pad side?

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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on January 12, 2008, 10:55:08 PM
Thanks, Magicmike  

If I put tape on the nail side, 1) my thumb would look like hamburger, and 2) it'd ruin my manicure

I like 1/4" white insert tape on the pad side because in winter my hands are ice cold and it helps with holding onto the ball and the thumb slug seems slicker in winter.  I've tried cutting down the 1" white tape and it's such a gunky mess even with really sharp scissors that when I discovered the insert tape I was really happy.  Now when I see it in pro shops or on Ebay, I corner the market!

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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: Pizzaguy on January 13, 2008, 12:55:52 PM
I like the white tape in the front AND back.

The black stuff, besides making it tough to get the residue out without alcohol, makes it feel like the old vinyl inserts where my thumb was coming out in the backswing.

It's all a matter of personal preference.
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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: Bernard Byars Jr on January 13, 2008, 01:02:29 PM
I also like my tape at the back of the thumb. I like Master tape the white textured but I also had tried the Super Textured too because I don't like to squeeze the ball but lately I can't find any of the super textured tape no where.
Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: scotts33 on January 13, 2008, 01:03:19 PM
Use Ebonite's 3/4" white textured in front and Magic Carpet in back on an ovaled thumb hole Switch Grip and have a couple of different sizes for large swelled thumb.  

Have used Master in the past and it did seem more gritty.
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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: tenpinspro on January 13, 2008, 01:27:51 PM
Master for me also seemed just a tad rougher/grittier while Col and Storm white tape was a little smoother.  In order of roughness...aside from gator type surfaces.

1) Master and AMF Bowlers tape
2) Brunswick and Ebonite
3) Columbia and Storm

I also use white tape on front and back of thumb but do not always recommend it for customers.  Dependent upon the bowlers skin, age and toughness, this is not always a good thing.

I feel it depends on each individual as to what their skin toughness is and it also attributes to how long they have been bowling (or worked with their hands in profession) as our skin should/will strengthen and get tougher with more use or exposure to friction.

There is no right or wrong here folks IMHO.  More so a matter of what feels good and what works for you.  Good post Charlest....
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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: charlest on January 13, 2008, 02:04:38 PM
Right now (last 2 years) I do not use white tape in the back because I use Vise-Grip Hada Strips on the back of my thumb. My thumb skin is looser than average and this allows me not to use Easy SLide or baby powder on my thumb. They're so good, my thumb no longer looks like a bowler's thumb; it looks normal. I use mostly the red Hada, rarely the blue. Still need white textured in the front for sizing purposes.

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Edited on 1/13/2008 4:25 PM
Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: Artimust on January 13, 2008, 07:43:15 PM
I tried using smooth black tape, but I don't like it at all.  I use Ron Clifton's Magic Carpet in the back, and textured white tape, if anything, in the front.  
Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: strikealot on January 13, 2008, 07:47:44 PM
i use tape on front and back also...3/4 works best for me...i almost oval my thumbhole with tape...about 5 pieces stacked in front and 1 on back...
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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: Buckwild on January 14, 2008, 09:33:50 AM
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Master for me also seemed just a tad rougher/grittier while Col and Storm white tape was a little smoother.  In order of roughness...aside from gator type surfaces.

1) Master and AMF Bowlers tape
2) Brunswick and Ebonite
3) Columbia and Storm

I also use white tape on front and back of thumb but do not always recommend it for customers.  Dependent upon the bowlers skin, age and toughness, this is not always a good thing.

I feel it depends on each individual as to what their skin toughness is and it also attributes to how long they have been bowling (or worked with their hands in profession) as our skin should/will strengthen and get tougher with more use or exposure to friction.

There is no right or wrong here folks IMHO.  More so a matter of what feels good and what works for you.  Good post Charlest....
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Very good answer, Rick! I had been wanting to try the white tape in the back since I see a lot of people, including my coach use it. I figure, if its works for them and are successful, it will help me too. But, unlike them, I haven't been bowling that much, so the skin on my thumb is not tough enough to deal with that friction, causing me to hang up. I switched to black tape in the back, and I'm coming out the ball alot cleaner. Also I use the hada patch blue tape.
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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: newguy on January 14, 2008, 10:02:27 AM
One of the biggest differences in each companies tape is the adhesive. Bowlers Tape is the best regarding residue left after the tape has been in the ball a while and is removed. It seem to leave the least amount of goo.
Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: tenpinspro on January 14, 2008, 12:25:09 PM
quote:
Very good answer, Rick! I had been wanting to try the white tape in the back since I see a lot of people, including my coach use it. I figure, if its works for them and are successful, it will help me too. But, unlike them, I haven't been bowling that much, so the skin on my thumb is not tough enough to deal with that friction, causing me to hang up. I switched to black tape in the back, and I'm coming out the ball alot cleaner. Also I use the hada patch blue tape.


Hey Buck,

I have found from trial and error that there are certain thumb tapes that I can utilize with white tape on the back of thumb and certain ones I can't.  I've had more success with Vise thumb tape (TT-25 beige/tan in color) that allow me to not stick to my white tape on the back of the thumb and allow for a very clean release.  Hada patch was a little too grabby and caused more friction then desired against white tape.

Newguy is also dead on with the amount of adhesive that is used, I found that "most" black tapes are also very "gooey" when we remove them.  This is why I suggest to my customers (if possible) to place a piece a black on top of a piece of white tape and you can have a slick feel without the worries about cleaning out residue when you remove it.  

There are also different cleaners/wipes that can remove that adhesive when necessary w/o leaving any residue. Columbia had a great product but I also found acetate pads from my wife's work (hospital) that can clean and leave no trace of it.  Hope this helps explain some...
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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: Brickguy221 on January 14, 2008, 09:31:21 PM
The Black Ebonite tape I've tried wouldn't stick to anything. Wouldn't even stick in the thumb hole long enough to throw one ball down the lane. Other brands of black tape are as others have described here, gooy and it comes out of the thumb hole in tiny pieces. I seldom use black tape, but when I do, I first stick it 2-3 times on the outside of the ball in the track where there is a bit of oil and this tames down the stickiness of the tape. I then place it in the thumb hole and it stays in place and comes out with very little if any difficulty when needed to remove it.
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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: Leftyhi-trak on January 15, 2008, 08:14:09 PM
Also remember that the tape's adhesive tackiness and transfer is relavent to the age of the product. It tends to transfer easier from substrate to surface the longer it sits around. I would be willing to bet one to two suppliers to the manufacturers. Possible difference in resin content in substrate and slight variations of adhesive mass. Sorry to bore you all. I dabble a bit in adhesives as my job.
Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: dizzyfugu on January 16, 2008, 08:33:13 AM
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I think the master tape is slightly more gritty than the others, and since i am like the only person in the world who likes texture at the back of my thumb i use that.



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Title: Re: Regarding white textured thumb hole tapes...
Post by: mini kahuna on January 29, 2008, 07:21:57 PM
I went to a product called gator tape in the front because white tape slicks up quick on me and doesn't last long.
the gator tape lasts for months and you just have to clean it with alcohol once in awhile.
I adjust the fit with black tape in the back off the hole.
it has really loosened up my swing.