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General Category => Beginners Board => Topic started by: bowlersam on January 29, 2016, 04:59:57 PM
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This is actually a follow up post of an another post I made. That was long and I thought this might go un noticed, hence I created this new topic.
What's the best strategy.
1. One Ball. Medium RG, Medium to a little higher Differential, Drilled medium strong, or Benchmark if you will with sum of DA around 100, and use different surfaces to bring Hook Point closer or to send it further down the lane.
2. 3 of the same balls. Same Layout. And use 3 Different surfaces for different lanes.
3. 3 Different balls. 3 Different layouts, no Surface change.
4. 3 Different balls. 3 Different layouts, modify surface now and then to suite the need.
Which is proven, most cost-effective, most efficient way to develop Arsenal? 1, 2, 3, or 4? Or is there a 5th or 6th option which I'm not even aware of?
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I just go sanded, polished, and old reliable
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I just go sanded, polished, and old reliable
Sanded I get. Polished I get. Old Reliable? Please elaborate
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Most bowlers have a ball they prefer to bowl with all the time. They know what to expect when throwing that ball. Easiest to make adjustments from. Usually a mid level ball without a weird drill on it and a common surface.
For me, I carry what most bowlers call their benchmark ball (old reliable). First ball out of the bag a most centers or some place new. Then I have a step up and a step down for tighter/drier.
Then I carry a spare ball, and 2 other balls that cover the exceptions. I have an axis drilled ball for shots that need early roll and control, and I have a urethane ball when the lanes call for that.
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Most bowlers have a ball they prefer to bowl with all the time. They know what to expect when throwing that ball. Easiest to make adjustments from. Usually a mid level ball without a weird drill on it and a common surface.
For me, I carry what most bowlers call their benchmark ball (old reliable). First ball out of the bag a most centers or some place new. Then I have a step up and a step down for tighter/drier.
Then I carry a spare ball, and 2 other balls that cover the exceptions. I have an axis drilled ball for shots that need early roll and control, and I have a urethane ball when the lanes call for that.
Unfortunately, I'm a little tight on the budget and can only afford 3 balls at max. For spare, I use a house ball and throw it straight.
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Eureka. Eureka
Research does have it's rewards. Went on different online forums, online shops and read the reviews there. Most helpful was the one on Bowling this month. Saw video reviews including the one with Jones and Couch.
Thanks to a comment by JohnP, I'm sure following strategy will work. I'm open to suggestions though.
1. Ebonite Cyclone. Pin up, Box finish
2. Ebonite Cyclone, Pin Down, Box Finish
3. Ebonite Cyclone, Pin Up, 1000 or 1500
Best part is, it doesn't break the bank. 84 Dollars on line buy. 30 to 40 Dollars for each ball drilled. Total cost under 400 dollars for 3 balls, raved all over the place.
How well this strategy works, only time will tell, or experts on this forum can help modify this. Please
Thanks.
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I just go sanded, polished, and old reliable
Sanded I get. Polished I get. Old Reliable? Please elaborate
Like a hyroad, or something that "seems" to bail u out of trouble on a hard shot...
For me its a sinister IF I'm on synthetics, second dimension IF im on wood.
Old reliable is your variable
My whole idea was just for 3 balls.
I'm not a big layouts this, layouts that type guy.
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Eureka. Eureka
Research does have it's rewards. Went on different online forums, online shops and read the reviews there. Most helpful was the one on Bowling this month. Saw video reviews including the one with Jones and Couch.
Thanks to a comment by JohnP, I'm sure following strategy will work. I'm open to suggestions though.
1. Ebonite Cyclone. Pin up, Box finish
2. Ebonite Cyclone, Pin Down, Box Finish
3. Ebonite Cyclone, Pin Up, 1000 or 1500
How well this strategy works, only time will tell, or experts on this forum can help modify this. Please
Thanks.
Post your findings..I know a guy who does this IQ tour solids...
He's either 780 or 480 literally...do I'm curious to see how it works for you.
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Post your findings..I know a guy who does this IQ tour solids...
He's either 780 or 480 literally...do I'm curious to see how it works for you.
I will for sure. 480 or 780? Really? But then again. Can we compare IQ T Solid to Cyclone? The reaction will be different I'm sure. How different? That's the most important question.
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Eureka. Eureka
Research does have it's rewards. Went on different online forums, online shops and read the reviews there. Most helpful was the one on Bowling this month. Saw video reviews including the one with Jones and Couch.
Thanks to a comment by JohnP, I'm sure following strategy will work. I'm open to suggestions though.
1. Ebonite Cyclone. Pin up, Box finish
2. Ebonite Cyclone, Pin Down, Box Finish
3. Ebonite Cyclone, Pin Up, 1000 or 1500
Best part is, it doesn't break the bank. 84 Dollars on line buy. 30 to 40 Dollars for each ball drilled. Total cost under 400 dollars for 3 balls, raved all over the place.
How well this strategy works, only time will tell, or experts on this forum can help modify this. Please
Thanks.
Good choice. Cyclone is value for the money.
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Thanks. JohnP got me thinking about Cyclone and Reviews made up my mind. Fingers crossed. Let's see
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Post your findings..I know a guy who does this IQ tour solids...
He's either 780 or 480 literally...do I'm curious to see how it works for you.
I will for sure. 480 or 780? Really? But then again. Can we compare IQ T Solid to Cyclone? The reaction will be different I'm sure. How different? That's the most important question.
Yeah..he was either super locked in or super confused and gave up. Like for example....sometimes one of my balls is just not working...I and extremely glad when I switch...to switch to something WAY different. Different core, cover, surface, and layout.
The cyclone thing might work, however you are only changing layout and surface prep. Not cover and core. If only changing 2/4 variables works, great. But sometimes all 4 variables might be needed...
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Don't get too caught up with layouts, keep it simple focusing on cover strengths and surface prep. A pretty decent 3 ball arsenal that won't break the bank would be:
Ebonite Gamebreaker2 (Benchmark)
Storm Hyroad (Transition)
Storm Joyride (Burn)
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Don't get too caught up with layouts, keep it simple focusing on cover strengths and surface prep. A pretty decent 3 ball arsenal that won't break the bank would be:
Ebonite Gamebreaker2 (Benchmark)
Storm Hyroad (Transition)
Storm Joyride (Burn)
Thanks Morpheus. I don't want to get into nitty gritty of Layouts, but I will have to lay these balls out for Drilling.
What do you suggest? DA or Pin up Pin Down?
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Layouts are dependent on a lot of variables, but for house patterns I would go with basic pin up layouts and let the difference in cover/core strength create separation to step down as the lanes transition.
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Layouts are dependent on a lot of variables, but for house patterns I would go with basic pin up layouts and let the difference in cover/core strength create separation to step down as the lanes transition.
Sounds good. Thanks
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I think you can do the job with the three Cyclones, these balls are stronger than their price indicates. However, I would suggest varying the pin to PAP distance as well as the pin up/pin down. Work with your driller. By the way, there is a pearl Cyclone now, I think it's the green one. -- JohnP
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I think you can do the job with the three Cyclones, these balls are stronger than their price indicates. However, I would suggest varying the pin to PAP distance as well as the pin up/pin down. Work with your driller. By the way, there is a pearl Cyclone now, I think it's the green one. -- JohnP
Yep. It's Green Pearl one. BTW. Thanks for pointing in the direction of Cyclone.
I don't plan on Bowling in competition, don't have that much time. I'm happy bowling 2 or 3 times a week, few games with friends. I am not looking to spend a fortune on different balls like others have 7 or 8 or more balls Arsenal.
You are right. I will stick to Cyclones for now. May be a Game Breaker 2 in future for heavy.
Thanks for kind advice mate.
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Today's bowling equipment tends to migrate to a specific surface roughness after a few games. Regardless of the starting grit, you will end up at a point dependent on the type of surface you are bowling on. This is the main reason I wouldn't suggest a 3 Cyclone arsenal.
I can see having two of a particular benchmark ball with variances in them (as part of a larger arsenal) to have that extra level of control, but to limit yourself to 3 of one ball as your entire arsenal I think isn't the best idea.
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Appreciate and understand. Thanks
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I think you could cover a lot with 2 Cyclones. Though I don't know if any of them are solids which I would prefer one of them being a solid and the other a pearl. I'd go pin above and pin under based on your stats. and PAP.
I tested the Fireball which charlest says is a pearl but not noted on Ebonite site and the Green/Yellow pearl over the weekend one down and one up both gave me decent looks but different looks on a house shot. Being a symmetrical and the total diff. of .053 for 14's with a relatively good cover give them a lot of drilling versatility. I think you could cover 75% of whatever you would see with 2 Cyclones especially if you bowl THS leagues and little tournament wise. Add a GB2 for heavier and you are set. Cyclones wold cover light-medium to medium-heavy. Cyclone at $84 has to be the best bang for the buck vs. performance you can get out of the ball.
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Keeping the surface fresh is covered in his post titled "Surface, surface, surface". -- JohnP