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Title: How many inches
Post by: djgook on March 23, 2016, 01:30:45 PM
Hello bowlers,
I won a bid on a dark legend for a great price. I took it to my nearest pro shop to have it drilled and the guy told me it has a bad pin. The pin is 2inches. I could not chat cause i was in a rush. I am sending the ball back for a full refund. What is the best pin inch? 3 inch-4inch,4inch-5inch? The box the dark legend came in says 2-3,which now I know is no good. Thank you for your time in advance.
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: tkkshop on March 23, 2016, 01:31:20 PM
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Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: djgook on March 23, 2016, 01:34:40 PM
lol. I am a new bowler and do not know about pin spots
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: tkkshop on March 23, 2016, 01:41:13 PM
That wasn't directed towards you. But rather your PSO. We do not have all the details, but there is nothing wrong with a 2 inch pin. Could you be more descriptive in regards to the actual issue he or she had with the pin?
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: mrwizerd on March 23, 2016, 01:43:37 PM
There is nothing wrong with a 2 inch pin.  When I think of bad pin lengths, 1/2 inch or 1 inch come to mind because you are very limited to the lay outs that can be used.  Before you go through the hoops of attempting to get your money back, you need to talk with your pro shop guy and find out why he says its a "bad pin."
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: itsallaboutme on March 23, 2016, 01:46:18 PM
A 2 inch pin is only bad when the guy you are wanting to drill it decides to be a DB because you didn't buy the ball from him.
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: milorafferty on March 23, 2016, 01:46:40 PM
The combination of a 2 inch pin with a high top weight could cause some limitations on how you want the ball drilled. But there is nothing "wrong" with a 2 inch pin. In fact, if you were looking for a ball for a pin down drilling without an extra hole, a two inch pin would be pretty much ideal.

I buy and sell a lot of bowling balls(not as a pro shop), and I look for balls with a 3 inch pin and 3 oz of top weight as being ideal.
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: djgook on March 23, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
He said if he drilled it, that something would crack and the warranty would be voided. Also he showed me that the little hammer on the ball and the pin was real close.When I get home I will put up some pictures. Thanks for everyones help
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: milorafferty on March 23, 2016, 01:52:51 PM
He said if he drilled it, that something would crack and the warranty would be voided. Also he showed me that the little hammer on the ball and the pin was real close.When I get home I will put up some pictures. Thanks for everyones help

I think I would look for another Pro Shop...

Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: Urethane Game on March 23, 2016, 02:09:55 PM
Perhaps he isn't talking about the pin distance but perhaps the pin itself is separated or cracked.  I'm still leaning toward itsallaboutme's answer, though. :)
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: djgook on March 23, 2016, 07:47:39 PM
Here is a couple of pictures  of the bowling ball.
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: tkkshop on March 23, 2016, 08:00:31 PM
Ball looks great to me. Pin down layout with a hole down the val= winner
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: WOWZERS on March 23, 2016, 08:08:41 PM
As all about me said and others, he is being a DB because you did not ball the ball from him. There is NOTHING wrong with that ball. Looks good to me. Find a new Pro Shop.
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: djgook on March 23, 2016, 08:17:01 PM
Thanks guys. I am looking at hammers layouts which one do you'll suggest. the only thing that I see the pin under the fingers are The All Purpose and Strong Layout. Is it any others or is that just it?

http://d1p268mz1b2hyf.cloudfront.net/res/uploads/products/files/HMR_Asymmetrical_DrillSheet_5.pdf
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 23, 2016, 08:33:53 PM
Great first quality ball with great specs. Go to a different proshop for help.

If you return the ball the seller should charge you accordingly for shipping, restocking, paypal fees and any other fees that apply.
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: mrwizerd on March 23, 2016, 08:47:30 PM
I agree with what everyone else has said...find a different pro shop.  Your driller has his panties in a twist because you didn't buy the ball from him.
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: raiderh20boy on March 23, 2016, 08:58:47 PM
Surprised nobody has questioned the MB position. Maybe if the bowler is right handed and the cg is really out of line to the right or bowler originally asked for one of the drill patterns shown in the paper work that show pin up and the bowler has a span 4 1/2" or longer it might be impossible to drill without a large XH.
JUST SAYING
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: big_bg on March 23, 2016, 09:05:39 PM
There's nothing wrong with the ball that's visible unless the mass bias is way off. A PSO that simply won't drill a ball not bought from their shop doesn't deserve your business. I understand a higher price for drilling a ball not bought from them but giving blatant misinformation is terrible business practice. Guaranteed he likely has a ball in his shop that has a very similar pin distance.
Speak to some people in your league or even on the forum about other drillers in your area. I drive an hour to see my guy despite there being about 10 shops closer as I'm comfortable with him and he's done wonders for my game after fixing balls with extremely stretched spans and zero pitch.
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: djgook on March 24, 2016, 05:09:07 AM
Heres a picture of the MB and I am right handed.
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: tkkshop on March 24, 2016, 05:33:18 AM
looks good to me
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: Phoneman on March 24, 2016, 05:53:24 AM
I would drill that.  Short pin does not allow certain drills put you certainly can make that happen.
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: Snakster on March 24, 2016, 07:16:27 AM
There's nothing wrong with the ball that's visible unless the mass bias is way off. A PSO that simply won't drill a ball not bought from their shop doesn't deserve your business. I understand a higher price for drilling a ball not bought from them but giving blatant misinformation is terrible business practice. Guaranteed he likely has a ball in his shop that has a very similar pin distance.
Speak to some people in your league or even on the forum about other drillers in your area. I drive an hour to see my guy despite there being about 10 shops closer as I'm comfortable with him and he's done wonders for my game after fixing balls with extremely stretched spans and zero pitch.

I agree with this 100%.  I also drive an hour for both me and my son to the BowlerX brick and mortar shop.  I trust NO ONE who is more local  (okay maybe Gebhardts, but that is also an hour away).

I always look for pins of at least 3" only because I have a rather long span (about 5 or 5 1/8) (and a very high track).  But if I had this ball, I'm certain that Lee would be able to make it work for me, it would just limit options.
Title: Re: How many inches
Post by: ICDeadMoney on March 27, 2016, 03:42:31 AM
Hello bowlers,
I won a bid on a dark legend for a great price. I took it to my nearest pro shop to have it drilled and the guy told me it has a bad pin. The pin is 2inches. I could not chat cause i was in a rush. I am sending the ball back for a full refund. What is the best pin inch? 3 inch-4inch,4inch-5inch? The box the dark legend came in says 2-3,which now I know is no good. Thank you for your time in advance.

What is the best pin inch?

That is like the question what is the best size shoe?

It's the one that fits you, or in the case of pin inch, the one that fits your game.

The answer will be different for many people.