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Title: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 12, 2017, 12:32:05 AM
Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)

Hey there, just wanna ask if i should get a hook ball? I'm gonna try hooking one later today, I'm quite passionate for bowling. I've been watching videos lately on the motion of the hand. Thanks :)

Should I get a shinier one (now sure how you call them) since they're easier for hooking and a reactive resin one?
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: MI 2 AZ on March 12, 2017, 12:50:35 AM
Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)

Hey there, just wanna ask if i should get a hook ball? I'm gonna try hooking one later today, I'm quite passionate for bowling. I've been watching videos lately on the motion of the hand. Thanks :)

Should I get a shinier one (now sure how you call them) since they're easier for hooking and a reactive resin one?


Hi, welcome to the site.

I don't think I am qualified to answer this completely.  I think you should start out with a medium oil ball, probably a solid because I think it will be somewhat easier to control and get a read off of.  You don't need to start out with a high performance ball if you are just starting to learn how to hook a ball, get an entry level for your first ball.  The experts can jump in later and offer you specific brands or models.

Also, I think you will have to provide a bit more information for the experts here to help you further.  Approximate age or any heath problems, one or two handed, what are you using now and how long have you been bowling (beginner could be someone who has just bowled once or someone who has been bowling off and on for many years but never took it seriously), and if you looking for a good pro shop you could mention the area you live in, someone could offer a recommendation for you. 

Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 12, 2017, 12:56:01 AM
Thanks for replying :)

Im currently 15, been bowling for, well, I just bowl whenever my family or friends suggest going. I bowl 1 hand, no health issues. Im not sure if the bowling alley im going uses platic balls, but I'm gonna try
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 12, 2017, 05:18:03 AM
*Update*

The ball hooked a bit, maybe I need to turn my wrist more
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Juggernaut on March 12, 2017, 11:27:03 AM
*Update*

The ball hooked a bit, maybe I need to turn my wrist more

 If you try to force a low friction, low flare potential ball to hook when there is too much oil for it by over rotating the wrist, you could very well hurt yourself.

 If you want to take bowling just a bit more seriously, and want to hook the shot, then YES, you need to buy a ball designed for that.

 You won't have to spend a fortune though. Probably a good, mid level ball will set you back around $125-$150 drilled and ready. Catch something on sale or closeout and you might save even more.

 Lots of people have bought Ebonite Cyclones and been very surprised with their performance, but ALL manufacturers have great stuff along those same lines, so you probably need to check around and shop well before making your purchase.

 Good luck.
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: leftybowler70 on March 12, 2017, 11:52:05 AM
Well put juggernaut.
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 12, 2017, 05:49:01 PM
Great info there :) thanks

Should.I buy one from.bowlingball.com or from a local shop? Do I really need custom drillings as a beginner
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: storybook123 on March 12, 2017, 05:54:27 PM
Great info there :) thanks

Should.I buy one from.bowlingball.com or from a local shop? Do I really need custom drillings as a beginner

I would go with your local PSO, most of the time it will be the same price. Yes you could get the ball cheaper online, but PSO have fixed this by increasing their drill price.
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: SG17 on March 12, 2017, 06:01:40 PM
I second buying one from the local Pro-shop.

You should really have the ball drilled to fit your hand; and the local pro-shops are the best way to get there.
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 12, 2017, 06:09:32 PM
True, thanks :) but there not much brands to choose tho. Will see
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: SG17 on March 12, 2017, 06:23:20 PM
True, thanks :) but there not much brands to choose tho. Will see

if you are referring to what is in the shop, any pro shop can order any ball.  and usually they can have it in a day or 2.
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 12, 2017, 06:41:36 PM
Not sure since I'm in hk, but alright :) so the ebonite will be good? It has a pretty high rev rate
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Juggernaut on March 12, 2017, 07:34:55 PM
 For your first "performance" ball, and by performance I mean hook, by all means you need to visit a reputable shop.

 They will be able to talk with you cirectly, show you all your alternatives, then make sure the new ball you select is drilled to fit your grip correctly.

 If you are going to go to the trouble of spending your money on a hook ball, doesn't it just make sense that you should get it drilled so that you can throw it correctly?
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 12, 2017, 07:45:18 PM
True, just messaged some shops
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 13, 2017, 01:06:14 AM
Is ebonite good enough? I want a 8/9 lb ball since its easier to learn
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 13, 2017, 05:27:29 AM
One shpp charges 45US for drilling, is that a normal price? Doesn't look to be
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 13, 2017, 06:00:43 AM
Sounds okay.. Should I buy this?

http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/storm/12473/tropical-storm-whiteblue-pearl.html
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 13, 2017, 06:24:09 AM
Sorry if I'm annoying... But is a roto grip - wreck em good? My local pro shop has it
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: JazlarVonSteich on March 13, 2017, 10:20:51 AM
Assuming you are in average/good physical shape for your age, 8 or 9 pounds is way too light for a 15 year old. You might think it will be easier to learn, but it would probably do more harm than good. I'd look for something around the 12-14 pound mark.

Buying something in the beginner/entry level lines would be best.
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: MaidenheadBandit on March 13, 2017, 10:38:16 AM
I know of a similar jr Poster who may have a few 10lb T Zones spare.. But he is two handed..
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Juggernaut on March 13, 2017, 04:57:54 PM
Sorry if I'm annoying... But is a roto grip - wreck em good? My local pro shop has it

 It is perfectly alright to ask questions. The more infirmation you have, the better choices you can make.

 I, too, would reccommend something more than the 8-9 lb ball. I know it us your first "good" ball, but if it is drilled correctly, you should be able to handle a 12-14 lb ball pretty easily. If you feel comfortable with a lighter weight, go with an 11-12 lb ball to start with.

 I also would not recommend you go with the Storm ball you linked to. That is a very low hook potential ball. I would go with something at least one step above that.

 The Rotogrip Wreckem is yes, a pretty good, pretty strong, reasonably priced ball  that would probably serve you well for quite some time.
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 13, 2017, 05:43:00 PM
Y
Thanks for your help guys! Im a skinny guy.. so yea haha. Should I buy a rito grip wreck em?
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: CoorZero on March 13, 2017, 06:42:29 PM
For strength of entry-level balls I don't think you could go wrong with a Roto Grip Hustle or 900 Global Boost. The Ebonite Cyclone is up there too. Any of of those would be my recommendation, although if you don't mind spending a little bit more a Wreck-Em isn't a bad idea.

I don't think anybody is really going to push you or say you should buy one particular ball though. That decision is all up to you.
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 13, 2017, 07:17:00 PM
True, thanks for your opinion. Gonna decide later today
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 13, 2017, 08:02:26 PM
Now, wrecker VS wreckem vs wreckit
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 13, 2017, 10:51:44 PM
Bump!
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Juggernaut on March 14, 2017, 03:35:25 AM
Now, wrecker VS wreckem vs wreckit

 Between those three, the wreck-it is the one that will, if left in its original condition, have more potential to create a hook.

 The reason is the way it is finished with a dull surface. The dull finish lets the ball handle more oil than the polished ones do.

 They all have the same core, the difference being in the outer cover.

 The Wreck line of balls has been around for a while now, and have been very good balls for the money. Not a bad choice at all, if you choose one.

 
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 14, 2017, 04:34:15 AM
Huh, the lanes are medoum dry here, so i'm gonna get the wreckem. Thanks btw :)
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 14, 2017, 06:03:55 AM
Just bought it online :) Shipping is damn expensive as I live in HK! It's gonna cost 226US with custom drillings
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Juggernaut on March 14, 2017, 10:34:43 AM
Just bought it online :) Shipping is damn expensive as I live in HK! It's gonna cost 226US with custom drillings

 Where, exactly, is HK. 
 Hong Kong?

 If so, then yea, overseas shipping ain't cheap.
Title: Re: Should I buy a hook ball? (Beginner)
Post by: Jusxusfanatic on March 14, 2017, 05:41:06 PM
Yep Hong Kibg