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General Category => Beginners Board => Topic started by: bowlersam on February 07, 2016, 01:48:04 AM

Title: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: bowlersam on February 07, 2016, 01:48:04 AM
Burnt up Heads, lots of carry down due to straight traffic. What a bowler to do?

Can't get to the pocket. Moved left, then some more, then some more, looking for oil in the heads, where it was very little. But. There was a lot of carry down. When found dry in the back end, it did manage to find the pocket. But that was seldom. Mostly it hit an oil streak and sailed through to 6 or 10 or gutter.

Moved out with a Urethane and kept my hand at the back of the ball so it wouldn't jump. Never turned the corner. Brought the hand to the side. Either didn't make the turn or hit the 4 or 7 pin. Depended whether it hit the dry or oil streak.

Really frustrating stuff. As if I didn't know how to bowl. So much so I wanted to hang the shoes and started thinking about giving Snooker a shot instead of Bowling.

Any idea which ball/layout combination would blend the wet dry and carry down best.

Help, or I'm playing Snooker. That's it
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: itsallaboutme on February 07, 2016, 07:10:11 AM
Sometimes there is no substitute for being able to hit what you are looking at.
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: luv2C10falll on February 07, 2016, 08:35:36 AM
Very well said, Its.....
Try outside with the same release but stronger ball.Done be afraid to go up 3/4 board at the arrows
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: kidlost2000 on February 07, 2016, 08:43:24 AM
Hows your spare game?
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on February 07, 2016, 10:35:51 AM
Bowlersam (from Pakistan?), if you are bowling in a foreign country, you are probably not bowling with as many serious bowlers using higher tech bowling balls, mostly plastic, so you will see more oil pushed down the lane than being absorbed.  Accept the challenge for what it is. Work on your spare game to become the best spare shooter around.  When the conditions are better, you will get your strikes and your scores will be higher if your spare game has improved. 

Remember, it's not about the high scores, but beating the field or the competition that day.  Your competition has to bowl on the same conditions.



Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on February 07, 2016, 10:40:45 AM
Very well said, Its.....
Try outside with the same release but stronger ball.Done be afraid to go up 3/4 board at the arrows

This.  Even learn how to bowl on the 1/2 board which many are scared of and even if you never have to use it, it makes bowling on 3/4 much easier.

Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: badbeard on February 07, 2016, 09:01:47 PM
In my home house hit the 3 board get the 10 pin with your hooking ball. Try to play
down the 10 board no hook hit the 9 get a strike hit the 8 go high.  Averages down 15 to 20 pins across the house. I play on senior leagues there and the other players use plastic urethane rubber and some reactive balls. I pay on 2 travel leagues just to go to other houses and play different shots. Shot is better every other house. all I can say change houses and maybe you can find a shot that fits your game. Or change your game.
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: bowlersam on February 07, 2016, 09:21:20 PM
Hows your spare game?
My spare game is not that bad. But, when ball or lane behaves the way they behave, one is bound to leave unusual spares and a lot of splits. 5, 7, 10.2, 8, 10 etc
That's the problem
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: bowlersam on February 07, 2016, 09:39:47 PM
Remember, it's not about the high scores, but beating the field or the competition that day.  Your competition has to bowl on the same conditions.
Well, that may be, but it's also about feeling good about one's game. And even if I beat the lane mate, I some times feel lousy.

There are times when I can score better throwing a plastic ball straight then if I hook. I don't care about scores. All I care about how I feel after playing the night.

I just want to know if there is any ball out there which is designed for wet/dry or carry down? There has to be with all the modern equipment and science that goes in to producing balls these days.
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: bowlersam on February 07, 2016, 09:43:46 PM
all I can say change houses and maybe you can find a shot that fits your game. Or change your game.
Yeah, that may be a good advice for now. I'll try to find a way to fight these lanes. A different ball may be. Do you know a ball that can help?
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: SVstar34 on February 07, 2016, 09:45:40 PM
Balls to combat wet/dry are usually smoother reactions like the Storm IQ Tour, Brunswick Brute Strength, Hammer Arson Low-Flare Solid
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: bowlersam on February 07, 2016, 09:53:24 PM
Balls to combat wet/dry are usually smoother reactions like the Storm IQ Tour, Brunswick Brute Strength, Hammer Arson Low-Flare Solid
That's what I'm talking about. Thanks mate. That's awesome. I'll check them out and see whether they could improve my game.

Otherwise. There is always snooker or fuse ball :)
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: itsallaboutme on February 08, 2016, 07:01:43 AM
The condition you are describing is not wet/dry.  Wet/dry is when the ball over reacts to dry to the outside and under reacts to a large amount of oil inside.  The condition described is broken down with carry down, where the ball is not hooking if you miss right and taking off if you miss left.  Bowlers ware still searching for the magic ball for this condition.
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: Juggernaut on February 08, 2016, 10:35:26 AM
Since when bowling became so difficult?

 Well, it started back around 1992.....................
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 08, 2016, 10:53:02 AM
What made it difficult in 1992?
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: itsallaboutme on February 08, 2016, 11:08:24 AM
Reactive balls for the guys that hit up on urethane.  The gremlin that would kick your ball sideways was mean and unforgiving.
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: bergman on February 08, 2016, 12:05:15 PM
1992 was the year that saw the introduction of reactive resin balls. It represented a dramatic change in ball reaction, as compared to urethane and plastic balls. Reactive resin (RR) balls hook much more and they require a much different type of release to be effective.  RR balls work best when they are released with minimal grip pressure.
They also work best when they are released low and very parallel to the lane surface.
RR balls are also much more "finnicky" as to ball speed and hand position changes.
They are usually more difficult to control at the breakpoint than urethane or plastic balls, however the payoff is that they of course, usually carry better and they allow the bowler to attack the lanes from a multitude of angles.
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: lilpossum1 on February 08, 2016, 12:42:57 PM
In my home house hit the 3 board get the 10 pin with your hooking ball. Try to play
down the 10 board no hook hit the 9 get a strike hit the 8 go high.  Averages down 15 to 20 pins across the house. I play on senior leagues there and the other players use plastic urethane rubber and some reactive balls. I pay on 2 travel leagues just to go to other houses and play different shots. Shot is better every other house. all I can say change houses and maybe you can find a shot that fits your game. Or change your game.

This sounds a lot like the house I bowl in. My forza works most nights, but it has not been here lately. I brought my 300c pearl out of the closet to give me something weaker but still silky smooth at the breakpoint that is not as prone to overreaction without balling all the way down to urethane. In this house, I don't look for area at the breakpoint. That just isn't going to happen. I just want damage control when I miss my breakpoint. Smoother equipment like the forza, 300c pearl, and pitch black help me leave easier spares on bad shots
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: badbeard on February 08, 2016, 08:58:57 PM
I bowl in east Texas my 2 nationals partners 1 from Vegas and one from Baton Rogue
area have all had lower house shot scores what in the world is going on ?????
 USBC average for last year 203 and this year I am getting 17 pins handicap How about this easy shot ????/
Title: Re: Since when Bowling became so Difficult?
Post by: ThomasBowling on February 24, 2016, 04:40:51 PM
When the oil dries up, you start moving left and keep throwing on the mark you were throwing on.
I throw straight too, I manage best on the burn. With a Motiv Jackal.
I suck in the first 2 series :/ We play 4 series in our league.

I've never bowled on light or desert conditions though.
So you might want to get a ball meant for light oil then. I'd get the Motiv Ascent.