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General Category => Beginners Board => Topic started by: Ratt_bowling on July 18, 2014, 09:04:20 AM
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What characteristics of a ball create skid-flip reaction? I've been using my father-in-law's Motiv Venom Toxin some and it has what I believe is a skid-flip reaction to it and I think I like that reaction compared to my Hammer Amp. So I'm curious if it is a relation of low RG and Low Diff, surface, coverstock, or what.
I may need a ball for heavy oil when I start my first league.
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A higher RG core will tend to be more skid flip, but the coverstock has the biggest effect. Sanded covers tend to read earlier, polished covers skid further before a sharp turn on the friction.
Your results may vary.
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What characteristics of a ball create skid-flip reaction? I've been using my father-in-law's Motiv Venom Toxin some and it has what I believe is a skid-flip reaction to it and I think I like that reaction compared to my Hammer Amp. So I'm curious if it is a relation of low RG and Low Diff, surface, coverstock, or what.
I may need a ball for heavy oil when I start my first league.
Results can vary. Typically, a high rg ball (2.54-2.56) with a higher differential (.05 area) along with a cover that is smooth with polish (2000 - 4000 abralon with polish) will help create that skid/flip reaction.
Balls that fit this mold are the lower end balls like the Columbia Freeze and Ebonite Cyclone. Sure there are other balls out there that fit that mold but those two are the ones that come off the top of my head.
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Hy-Road Pearl is about the most skid/flip I can use on a THS. But that is with my higher speed and ultra low revs.
If you are looking for heavier oil ball though, you may not be as skid/flippy as you want. Heavier oil balls are intended to get into a roll sooner which will cause a more smooth arc motion.
I have a DV8 Ruckus that has decent later reactions to heavier conditions, but nothing I would call skid/flip, for me at least.
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Knowing the cover and weightblock, AMF Decimate
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Critical theory plus polish looks like you kick it off the spot.
I am curious to see the sinister and if it is close to the CT....
That new Brunswick fortera exile looks to be all skid/flip
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Lane condition
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What characteristics of a ball create skid-flip reaction? I've been using my father-in-law's Motiv Venom Toxin some and it has what I believe is a skid-flip reaction to it and I think I like that reaction compared to my Hammer Amp. So I'm curious if it is a relation of low RG and Low Diff, surface, coverstock, or what.
I may need a ball for heavy oil when I start my first league.
It's the relationship of the cover's finish, the strength of the core, the amount of oil and the amount of dry backend, together with the bowler's rev rate/ball speed ratio and their tilt and rotation. You need to look at all these factors in relation to one another and by themselves that will HELP to determine how much the ball will skid/flip.
- If you dull the ball, it will tend to hook earlier and save less for the backend; thus reducing its tendency to s/f. Adding more polish will increase the flip.
- If you use a more end-over-end release (less rotation), it will s/f less. More rotation or more tilt will increase the s/f.
- If you use it on longer oil, with a shorter dry backend, it will s/f less.
- If you drill it with a higher RG (pin further from the PAP, keeping all other relationships the same), it will s/f more.
- If you use a smaller VAL angle, it will s/f more.
The low RG Diff on the Toxin usually adds control; usually a higher RG diff will cause a greater tendency to s/f, all other things being equal. I'd suspect you're using it on too light an oil for its drilling and your release. If you're rev dominant (more revs than speed), more balls are likely to be skid/flip and for someone who is speed dominant or who is rev/speed matched. Its lower RG would usually help a ball to rev up earlier and reduce s/f tendencies.