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Storm269

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Some queries
« on: January 05, 2005, 12:54:12 AM »
Hi all, as you can see I am a beginner in this world of bowling and have some queries that i hope you guys can help....
i) I feel like upping the weight of the bowling ball from 13# to 14# can anyone advise will there be any difference ?
ii) Secondly when you are standing on the lane and getting ready to bowl, what is your point of aim/release ? the pots on the floor ? the arrows ? or the pins ? have been getting different opinion from different bowlers down here thus making me a bit confuse...hope you guys can help...thanks

 

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Re: Some queries
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2005, 09:01:37 AM »
Beginner --  Welcome to bowling and to these forums.  If you are strong enough to increase from 13 lbs to 14 lbs, you should see an increase in the hitting power of the ball.  And perhaps even more importantly, the 14 lb balls in general have stronger cores than the 13 lb balls.  The large majority of good bowlers today are using 15 lb balls.  Most bowlers target at the arrows, some use the dots that are closer to the foul line, some use the break point, roughly 40 ft down the lane, some use the reflection of the pins on the lane.  Almost none target at the pins.  --  JohnP

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Re: Some queries
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2005, 09:17:09 AM »
Try the different methods of targeting to see what is more comfortable for you.  As John said, most bowlers use the arrows as a targeting system and if you decide to use that, try this site for some tips/explanations:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kennmelvin/TSystems.htm

For more information/links to other sites, the BR Unofficial FAQ is here:
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=67711&ForumID=16&CategoryID=5
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Re: Some queries
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2005, 09:37:49 AM »
If you increase ball weight, you will definitively see more pin impact. I came from 13 lbs. house balls to my first 14 lbs polyester conventional ball, over a 14 lbs. fingertip particle ball to my current 15 lbs. assortment. Increment in weight is not the problem, as long as the ball fits well on your hand and you can hold it properly without squeezing.

Thumb role is that ball should be 10% of body weight, another very good test is holding a ball in your playing hand with stretched arm, supported by the other non-bowling hand. If you can hold the ball without problems for 10 sec. the weight should be O.K. . Decrease weight if this does not work.

When I began bowling (just 9 months ago) I used to aim at the pins, but this changed quickly with a fingertip ball. I started aiming at the 3rd arrow (too heavy against the lane and wasted lane space), then switched to 2nd arrow (playing straight down 10th board) and now I am normally aiming at 12th board, between them, standing @ board 23 with my right shoe tip on dry houses. This feels comfortable and works almost everywhere to start from.
I do not need the pins at all and I can strike blindly - despite low light, moonlight bowling or fog machines. To adjust impact point in the pit, I just change standing position and sometimes my release.

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Storm269

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Re: Some queries
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2005, 04:12:20 PM »
Thank you very much for your pointers and the informative wedsite. Will try it out tonight....

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Re: Some queries
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2005, 04:28:17 PM »
I assume that you are going to practice tonight, not "bowl" tonight.  Stick with knowns during competition whenver possible.  Eliminate the variables.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2005, 08:45:06 PM »
Beginner -- Another point you may not be aware of - you need to know exactly where you start on the lane so you can duplicate shots and have a point from which to make adjustments.  Mark the starting location with the right edge (some bowlers use the center of their toe) of your left (slide) foot for righties.  If you are throwing the ball properly and hitting your target but the ball is ending up to the right of the pocket, you will need to move your starting position to the right.  If the ball's ending up to the left of the pocket, move to the left.  If you want to completely change your line, then you move both the target on the lane and your starting position.  --  JohnP

Storm269

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Re: Some queries
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2005, 07:48:57 AM »
Rudedog2
Don't worry...only practice and i did not join any league yet.

just an update on how I did tonight...play total of 6 games..and tried using the 3-6-9 system and first two games were bad (under 100), run into all type of mistakes and errors. But the score pick up in the next 4 games...130,136,146 and 150. Though the scores are not high but quite happy with progress, at least i know i am using the right method to bowl.

Btw, i have decided to switch to a 14lb ball and have some cash to spend. Thought of getting the Storm X factor Ace but do you guys think this ball is too advance for me ? Any suggestion ? Thanks



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Re: Some queries
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2005, 03:55:54 AM »
Hmm, a high performance ball is expensive in the first place, but with proper technique these things (from every manufacturer) kick butt. They can rise your average - but this can also be done with a cheaper ball which fits your game well. If you want to invest money in a good ball, it should fit your style and the lane conditions you usually play and practice on. Do not get fixed on a ball too soon.

Best thing to do is consult a local proshop of your trust to have your playing style observed, somebody who is familiar with local lanes. Tell what you want to do with the ball, and normally you should get serious advice or ball recommendations. This might turn up some ball(s) which you never thought of before, but it is better than buying blindly a ball just for the looks and not using its potential properly.

Another clue can be the assortment of other local advanced players. Have a look or ask around which ball they prefer, especially if their playing style matches yours.

Another option (which I did) is to try used balls, have them plugged and re-drilled to your needs. This needs a good pro shop (and sources like this forum), too, but it is a good way to try out and compare different manufacturers, core designs, drillings etc.
In the pat 8 months I tried 7 balls this way, all for different occasions and from various sources. Was not too expensive, and it left me with a very good impression what different balls and drillings can do, and what my next ball (the first new one, an Impulse Zone by Brunswick) should be.

Best bet should be to seek out professional help for ball choice. Might save money in the end, and prevent frustration.
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Re: Some queries
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2005, 08:10:21 AM »
Thank you,dizzyfugu for your advice and will try to asked the Pro Shop for some advise on the ball of balls suitable for beginners


But unfortunately used balls are hard to some by in this area...

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2005, 10:10:38 AM »
Good luck, and much success!
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Storm269

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Re: Some queries
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2005, 08:14:24 AM »
Hi it's me again...sorry but more questions;
When to one pro shop which is near my workplace, told him I am a beginner and wanted to purchase a new bowlingball and asked for some recommendations.
He actually recommended some mid range balls to me like the Ebonite Prime Time, Show Time and the Brunswick Nemesis. He adviced not to waste time on low range ones....is this true ?

Next we talk about types of drilling, I told him that I have read about many different types of drilling from the net but his reply was that beginners don't have to bother too much about the kind of drilling, a normal type of drilling will do and only when I am in the advanced stage then to improve further then that when drilling will play a part...how true is his explanation ?

Thank you.....

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Re: Some queries
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2005, 10:08:43 AM »
Beginner --  

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He actually recommended some mid range balls to me like the Ebonite Prime Time, Show Time and the Brunswick Nemesis. He adviced not to waste time on low range ones....is this true ?


He's given you some good recommendations.  Re low range balls, if he's talking about the truly low range balls, plastic balls, he's right (except for use for spare balls which you're not ready for yet).  Now there are some really good balls in the next price grouping up from plastic, such as the Ebonite Tornados, Brunswick Power Grooves, etc.  If he's talking about these balls in my opinion he's wrong.

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. . . his reply was that beginners don't have to bother too much about the kind of drilling, a normal type of drilling will do and only when I am in the advanced stage then to improve further then that when drilling will play a part...how true is his explanation ?


He's right.  A simple label layout with the pin to the right of the fingers will be all you need at this point in your development.  --  JohnP

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Re: Some queries
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2005, 07:19:08 PM »
Thanks John for the feedback...