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Title: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Russell on December 26, 2010, 01:32:30 PM
I just wanted to share a local Atlanta up and coming player that has some very great things going on with this swing.  His family has helped him make a video to market himself to colleges (he's only 16).  You can't teach the amount of explosion at the bottom of the swing that he absolutely EFFORTLESSLY creates...with a surprisingly compact motion.

Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUxrhG3Gb-w
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Hightracker on December 27, 2010, 12:15:05 PM
wow nice deal there...
Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: rcorbitt on December 27, 2010, 01:26:13 PM
Overall very nice, but there''s still some work to be done. I hope he has a coach!

Edited on 12/27/2010 3:25 PM
Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: ccrider on December 27, 2010, 01:52:49 PM
Looks good. My 13 year old that likes baseball and karate and bowls about once a month has more natural talent.

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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Dyno-Joe on December 27, 2010, 02:26:33 PM
I am not trying to be mean with this, but he is still pretty raw. He has the potential, but needs some coaching. The elbow bend/hitch in the swing is less than desirable for repetition. The thing he does in his swing makes it seem like the ball bumps out of a straight swing plane going through the front part of the swing. He could use a good deal more in spine tilt to get the ball more under his head at release. The triangle his body makes is pretty small comparing to most of the greats. The triangle being the lines created by the lower body during the post. Getting the ball under the head more will increase stability and leverage and will get the trail leg further out.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Fundamentals_of_the_Modern_Release

That has a good deal of information. Hope he keeps working and improves. Really wasn't trying to dissect his game, there are just 3 key points he could work on. And that is how many things I work on with my coach in our lessons. Hope it helps.
Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Locke on December 27, 2010, 02:45:24 PM
He has some talent and he will bowl for a college I am sure. He still has some work to do like others have said. That was not the smoothest motion ever but it is far beyond most. I hope he can get paired up with a good coach. If he does than he could go far.
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: TWOHAND834 on December 27, 2010, 03:21:22 PM
Personally I think he does just fine.  He will naturally improve as he gets older because he already has the fundamentals to go far in the game.  Doesnt matter what you look like anymore as long as you are accurate and can repeat shots.  Lets look at some pros that are alot worse than this kid, look wise, and do just fine:

Eugene McCune: He just won a tournament throwing a ball 25 mph.  Not much to look at but he won because he could do it repeatedly and pretty accurate.

Ryan Shafer:  Stands up horribly at release (not recommended by most high level coaches).  However, he is accurate and can repeat what he does well.  

The Traber Brothers:  Although not very successful on the National Tour, they have had better success on the Regional level.  Another example of nothing special to look at.  However, they are effective.

Kendle is ahead of alot of kids his age.  He is already on PBA patterns as the video shows and looks like he has a good idea what he is doing. Reminds me of another PBA Tour player from this area, Jason Sterner.  He was way ahead of others at his age and has come close to making a few shows.  

Before I get flamed, just want to make it clear that all the people I mentioned above are very good at what they do.  My point was that you can have imperfections and still be among the best out there.  Keep working Kendle!!!  Go things lie ahead of you.
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: kidlost2000 on December 27, 2010, 03:30:44 PM
He throws the ball good. Seems to fall off his shot on occasion at the line, but that is common and easy to fix.

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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Russell on December 27, 2010, 03:34:28 PM
Thank you Steven...glad someone else sees the pure talent that is there.

I am amazed at what some of you are finding wrong.  The swing plane issue that one pointed out is no different than what Bill O'neill does...last I checked he's a pretty solid player.  Reality of it is Kendle throws it GREAT for a 16 year old, and does some things that can't be taught.  The little things will be worked out as he gets older.
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Strapper_Squared on December 27, 2010, 04:26:51 PM
looks pretty smooth to me and seems to generate all kinds of power.  Unfortunately, there are only a limited number of schools with the ability to offer assistance/scholarships.  

Wish him the best of luck...

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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: HamPster on December 27, 2010, 04:48:24 PM
Yeah, ya'll are being pretty hard on the kid.  Only thing I really saw was his follow through, but Rhino Page follows through right in front of his face too.  The kid looks really solid.  The elbow bend and wrist flip at release is actually the way power players are being taught now.  The straight elbow and stiff wrist thing is being passed by.  The little elbow crank and wrist flip helps get more revs and also helps get the ball through the heads cleaner.  Watch some videos of the power pros, Chris Barnes, Bill O'Neill, Wes Malott, etc.  Slow them down and really pay attention and you will be surprised at all the "textbook" stuff they don't do.
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: HamPster on December 27, 2010, 04:52:13 PM
And watching it again, they might move his ball position on the setup right a little bit so he doesn't have to circle his body on the pushaway and backswing, but you want to talk about some really minor tweaks.  I know I wish I could bowl like that.
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: bighook69 on December 27, 2010, 04:56:16 PM
looks very good... knee bend might be nice... but looks solid
Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: JustRico on December 27, 2010, 05:27:41 PM
Russell

The kid has a lot of potential and you are right, he's a kid.
It amazes me when amateur coaches see SO many things wrong with a person's game not realizing that one correction generally influences other parts of the game.
I am an Asst coach at Fresno and we would LOVE to have him on the team...NOW.
Anyways, keep the kid positive and he could go along ways.
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: los2003 on December 27, 2010, 05:32:38 PM
+++++++100000 with the school situation.. MEn money is hard to come by if you are looking for an worthwhile amount

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looks pretty smooth to me and seems to generate all kinds of power.  Unfortunately, there are only a limited number of schools with the ability to offer assistance/scholarships.  

Wish him the best of luck...

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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Mike Austin on December 27, 2010, 05:39:40 PM
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I am not trying to be mean with this, but he is still pretty raw. He has the potential, but needs some coaching. The elbow bend/hitch in the swing is less than desirable for repetition. The thing he does in his swing makes it seem like the ball bumps out of a straight swing plane going through the front part of the swing. He could use a good deal more in spine tilt to get the ball more under his head at release. The triangle his body makes is pretty small comparing to most of the greats. The triangle being the lines created by the lower body during the post. Getting the ball under the head more will increase stability and leverage and will get the trail leg further out.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Fundamentals_of_the_Modern_Release

That has a good deal of information. Hope he keeps working and improves. Really wasn't trying to dissect his game, there are just 3 key points he could work on. And that is how many things I work on with my coach in our lessons. Hope it helps.


This coming from someone who has a MASSSSSSSIIIIVVVVEEEEE hitch in his backswing.  Might want to get that checked out...or delete it from youtube.
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Dyno Joe's game looks better than the young kid's, just my opinion.

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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: rcorbitt on December 27, 2010, 05:46:34 PM
I think he should look at Webber International University in Babson Park, FL. The Webber team is coached at the Kegel Training Center in Lake Wales, FL.

I'm guessing there is a limited number of scholarships available, and I'm sure the competition for them is intense, but the program is awesome.

Kegel teaches the "modern game" and will address most all of the criticisms posted so far. Maybe you should suggest a trip to Kegel for some personal coaching, and see how it goes.
Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: The Dreaded Durbin on December 27, 2010, 06:00:31 PM
No such thing a text book game.  All these amateur coaches teach out of a USBC text book, and have no real world bowling application behind their coaching. I''ve never been in favor of reading a training manual, plunking down your $, then taking a test to become a coach. That never sits right with me. There is something wrong in just about every top level professional.  I have yet to watch the perfect bowler, throw the perfect ball.  

There is simply no way a human is going to produce the perfect physical game.  There is no amount of training that will allow somebody to even come close to achieving that.  

There is so much variance from the text book that a bowler can get away with and still be one of the top players, and there is very little reason to change their game to try to even perfect it more, because perfection is impossible.

Repetition trumps perfection.  If you have a relatively good game, and you can repeat it.  Your going to go far.

People get way to caught up on swing planes, drift, hand inside the ball and other stuff that is not always the big picture important.  If you can get the ball from point A to point B, I do not care what it looks like.  

Watch Mike Lichstein bowl,  I wouldnt bowl him for $5.  I like $5 in my pocket.  

A little less nit pick on peoples games, goes a long way.


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Edited on 12/27/2010 8:18 PM
Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: JustRico on December 27, 2010, 06:59:41 PM
It's the INTERNET....EVERYONE has an OPINION! And they are ALL RIGHT!
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Hoselrockets on December 27, 2010, 07:06:41 PM
He throws it very well for his age and as gets older he will fine tune his game from trial and error.

Would love to see him throw some shots on Sunset Strip Pattern.
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Russell on December 27, 2010, 07:13:15 PM
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It's the INTERNET....EVERYONE has an OPINION! And they are ALL RIGHT!
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lol...that wasn't directed at you.  There is a tip..and then there is a frame by frame breakdown on why his game isn't just like Dave Ozio...lol
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Dan Belcher on December 28, 2010, 05:14:44 AM
I've got a 10 year head start on this guy, and his release is still already 8 million times more clean but powerful than mine. I'm not going to nitpick things he does wrong because 1) he's young and still tweaking the basics, and 2) everybody has things that could be improved in their swing and approach. Everybody. Looks like he's got a ton of potential in my opinion.
Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: WOWZERS on December 28, 2010, 05:20:40 AM
Tiger still has a swing coach after winning how many majors? The kid is 16, still growing, has a lot to learn, but will hopefully use his ability to his advantage in the coming years.

He has a great game.

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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Dyno-Joe on December 28, 2010, 07:12:13 AM
Sorry people feel I was being that hard on him. The kid does have the potential and talent. I just saw 3 little things that could be improved on. I don't really get the point of the post if you are not looking for ways he can improve his game. This truly was not meant to be any kind of attack on the young man, I am just looking out for a fellow young bowler. I was the hardest on myself about my game growing up, but I didn't have a clue of what I needed to do differently until I saw a coach. All of the things I said were basic repeats of what my coach told me. It's good to receive some different point of views. Some people are taking this the wrong way. I am actually on working becoming certified, just school has been keeping me a little too much away from it. Again, no harm meant. The way my coach and I do things is find 3 areas that need to be improved on, and those were the 3 things I could find. Albeit they might be a little nitpicky, but what's the point of trying to better your game than go all the way with it. Again, I apologize.
Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: JOE FALCO on December 28, 2010, 07:21:45 AM
Good man Joe!
Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: Russell on December 28, 2010, 09:41:12 AM
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Sorry people feel I was being that hard on him. The kid does have the potential and talent. I just saw 3 little things that could be improved on. I don't really get the point of the post if you are not looking for ways he can improve his game. This truly was not meant to be any kind of attack on the young man, I am just looking out for a fellow young bowler. I was the hardest on myself about my game growing up, but I didn't have a clue of what I needed to do differently until I saw a coach. All of the things I said were basic repeats of what my coach told me. It's good to receive some different point of views. Some people are taking this the wrong way. I am actually on working becoming certified, just school has been keeping me a little too much away from it. Again, no harm meant. The way my coach and I do things is find 3 areas that need to be improved on, and those were the 3 things I could find. Albeit they might be a little nitpicky, but what's the point of trying to better your game than go all the way with it. Again, I apologize.


Joe I apologize as well for attacking you the way I did.  I deleted it after I realized that you were doing no wrong.  Your armswing is great, I just didn't want anyone to give Kendle a complex about his swing if he happened to read this.

Both of you have very pure armswings, which are rare in younger players today.  Most try to unload on it with everything they have, both of you seem to be in complete control through the hitting zone.

Again I apologize, and your analysis was right.  I guess I should have put in the original post that I just wanted to share and not get any real coaching...so that was my mistake.

Randy
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: BowlingWolf on December 28, 2010, 10:02:07 AM
WOW!

Great game, the kid has.

For a tall kid, his hand at delivery is so low at the line, creating all sorts of power at the release--I can't imagine him bending more, it just wouldn't be natural for his body type.

With practice, this kid is only gonna get so much better.

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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: dogman666 on December 28, 2010, 10:45:07 AM
Looks good to me but going at the 7 pin from the left was a little different.  Lots of power to get it through the heads and tremendous carry.
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: strikingresults-atl on December 29, 2010, 10:27:37 AM
Kendle is a great young talent with lots of potential.Even the best in the world have things to work on to get their game to the next level.I wish Kendle the best of luck of accomplishing all his goals.The future looks very bright.Pretty amazing to throw it that good at age 16!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: guffnuh on January 20, 2011, 11:21:09 AM
What does he average?

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Title: Re: Atlanta local kid with serious talent
Post by: solid10pin on February 08, 2011, 09:55:12 AM
His mind is in the right place. It looks like just a matter of time and effort to refine things physically. You'll realize that when you watch him shoot at the 7 pin.