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Brute
« on: September 04, 2014, 08:57:59 AM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
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Brunswick Brute Ball Specs:

- Color: Navy & Light Blue Pearl Hybrid All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Core: Brute Low RG/Low Differential Symmetrical (14-16 Lbs.)
- Coverstock: Fortify Hybrid Reactive
- Factory Finish: 500 Siaair Micro Pad; Royal Compound; Royal Shine
- Reaction: skid through front, strong mid-lane rev, great entry angle, excellent pin action
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.523**
- Differential (Diff): 0.032**
- ** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls
- Hook Potential: 190 (scale 10-250)
- Length: 120 (scale 25-235)
- Breakpoint Shape: Angular
- Recommended Lane Condition: Light to Medium Oil
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal

 

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Re: Brute
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2014, 09:44:38 PM »
Some balls are good, some balls are GREAT, and then there are balls that are simply the REAL DEAL. Check out as Lane Side Reviews brings out the BIG GUNS and puts the new Brunswick Bowling Brute to the test! ‪#‎reviewswithLSR‬ ‪#‎teambrunswick‬‪#‎realdeal‬ http://youtu.be/PBEXEwcRkLI


Brunwick Brute

BALL SPECS
Pin Length – 3-4"
Starting Top Weight – 2.4 oz
Ball Weight - 15lb 4oz

DRILL PATTERN
Drilled at 40 Degrees X 5” X 75 Degrees

BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate – 240 / 352 / 436
Ball Speed – 14.1 MPH / 18.6 MPH

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SURFACE PREPARATION
Grit - Out of the Box
Type (Matte, Polish, Sanded) - Out of the Box

LANE CONDITION
Length - 41 ft
Volume – 18.30 ml
Type (Wall, Xmas Tree, Sport) – Kegel Main Street (THS)

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Re: Brute
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2014, 09:12:02 AM »
BALL SPECS

Ball Weight: 16 lbs


DRILL PATTERN

Dual Angle: 70 x 5" x 35

X Hole (if there is one): None


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate: Higher, between 370 and 410 rpm, aka Cranker

Ball Speed: 16.50 mph

PAP/Track: 5 3/8" over and 7/8" up with a high track


SURFACE PREP

Grit: Box - 500 SiaAir, Royal Compound, Royal Shine

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polished


LANE CONDITION

Length: Multiple

Volume: Multiple

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Multiple


BALL REACTION

Length: 9 / 10

Back End: 9 / 10

Overall Hook: 7 / 10

Midlane Read: 7 / 10

Breakpoint Shape: 9 / 10 (Angular)


COMMENTS

Likes: Very versatile ball with easy length

Dislikes: None


The Brunswick Brute is the newest ball in the All Purpose line. With it's hybrid cover and a new base coverstock that was used it the Fortera Exile, this ball is very versatile and would be good for medium to lighter oil conditions. The Brute would be great for a house shots, but would still work on sport shots because it is very clean through the front part of the lane. With my pin up drilling, I get the length because of the cover with a lot of recovery down lane. Once the ball gets into the roll stage, it doesn't quit going through the pins. If you are looking for an all purpose ball, the Brute won't disappoint.

Check out the video of me throwing the ball that was produced by tamerbowling.com: http://youtu.be/w6pwdqQegYo?list=UUjHcws-w_hDpcIZO9FQqnKw
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Re: Brute
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 02:20:02 PM »
Brunswick Brute Review

Tester: James Goulding III
PAP: 4 5/8” x 0”
Speed: 17.5 – 18.0 mph
Rev Rate: 350
Drill Pattern: (55*) x 4 5/8” x 25*

Typical House Shot (41ft.)

This was the first pattern that I used the Brute on, and it was the perfect ball for the typical 41ft. house shot. I went with a shorter pin (4 5/8”), but less VAL angle to keep the pin over the ring finger. I wanted a little bit of mid lane read, but also the quick, aggressive backend that a pin up layout would provide. This layout worked perfectly. I started playing 12-6 on the house shot, with a very sharp backend move, and I was amazed at the ability of the ball to pick up the mid lane but still yield a strong, powerful move to the pocket, shown by my 300 the second game with the ball (219, 300, 248). Deflection was not an issue as the Brute powered through the pins and kept coming back for more, leaving a few solid 8’s and 9’s. As the pattern broke down, I was able to get into 15, and then 18, with my break point out at 10-11, without sacrificing too much for pin carry (225, 232, 219). I noticed that the Brute didn’t seem to like going inside out as much as playing further out on the lane and increasing the entry angle. This was what I expected out a ball that I call a “Ringer on steroids”. In comparison to balls in the current lineup, I had the Brute 3 boards further in with my feet and 3 further in with my eyes than the Fortera Exile, and 5 further out with my feet and 4 further out with my target than the Melee Cross.

Kegel Broadway (37ft.)

I was excited to play on this oil pattern with the Brute, as it performed well the house shot I used it on, but to me, the measure of a ball is how it handles harder oil patterns. The Brute performed quite admirably on Broadway. Like many players on Broadway, I tend to start further outside on this pattern, and migrate in as needed.  I started with the Brute on 9, playing out to 5 with a really good look for a couple of games (220, 229). Then, I started to move in for the next two games, into 12, swinging to 8, and had my best success as the pattern broke down (235, 248). Lastly, I got further inside on games five and six, noticed a slip in pin carry, but was surprised how much further in I could go and still reach the pocket pretty consistently, finishing at 16 swinging out to 12 (205, 219). I was 4 further inside than my Fortera Exile and 5 with my feet (to finish), and was 4 further out (to finish) and 5 out with my feet than my Melee Cross. I actually liked the Fortera Exile on the broken down pattern a little better due to the fact that I could square up and carry better by crossing fewer boards. Part of this is the make-up of the ball, and the other part is the shorter pin distance I used to drill it. But, the Brute is an excellent choice to start on Broadway, and adjust to a Fortera Exile, and finally a Strike King, as the pattern really breaks down.

WTBA Paris Oil Pattern (47ft.)

The Paris oil pattern was the longest that I tested Brute on at 47ft. I feel this was the pattern that would test the ball the most. After throwing many games with this ball, a pattern has emerged as long as you can square up with this ball, it will recover and carry very nicely. I got deeper on this pattern than any other I tested, and while I could still consistently hit the pocket with decent pin carry, my best carry was when I was further outside creating a larger entry angle to the pocket. I started out playing 14 with my mark and only swinging to 11, but this yielded good results (230, 219). I migrated in to 18 and swung to 15, and the pin carry did slip a little (221, 215), which was not a surprise to me considering how tough this pattern can play with less aggressive equipment. So, I finally ended up on 20, getting out to 16 with a very cutoff angle of entry. As I stated earlier, the pin carry was decent considering how deep I was on the lane (205, 219). Overall, I averaged about 4 boards further in than with the Fortera Exile, and 5 boards further inside with my feet. I was 5 boards further out than my Melee Cross on the lane and 6 further out with my feet on Paris.

Overall Impressions

I really liked the ball reaction of the Brute, especially for price point. Many times these types of balls are relegated to special conditions and not as versatile, especially on heavier or longer patterns, but the Brute handled each lane condition well, and can handle most oil conditions you will encounter. I used it from 37-47ft. oil patterns, lower and higher ratios, with success on each pattern. The deeper you go on the lane, the lower the pin carry, but the further out you go, the carry increases significantly. I wouldn’t call the Brute a “benchmark ball”, but it is a vital piece in your arsenal, especially as the lanes break down and you need something to make a quick transition from oil to dry. This is a great bowling ball, and a much needed addition to the Brunswick lineup, fitting in perfectly between the Melee Cross and Fortera Exile. Go get your Brunswick Brute on the 24th of September; you’ll be glad you did!

James Goulding III
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Re: Brute
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2014, 06:27:05 PM »
BALL SPECS


Ball 1:

Pin Length: 4.5


Starting Top Weight: 3.2 oz


Ball Weight: 15 lbs 5 oz

Ball 2:

Pin Length: 3.5


Starting Top Weight: 3 oz


Ball Weight: 15 lbs 4 oz



DRILL PATTERNS


Balls: 60 x 5 x 35 and 55 x 5 x 85


X Hole (if there is one): no x hole in either ball



BOWLER STYLE


Rev Rate: 375 rpms


Ball Speed:17.5 mph



PAP/Track: 4 3/4 over 3/4 up



SURFACE PREP


Grit: High gloss polish on ball one and 1000/4000 Siaair on ball 2


Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polished and Sanded



LANE CONDITIONS


Lengths of patterns: 41 foot house



Volumes:  moderate to higher



Type: house




BALL REACTION


Length: Clean through the heads with very hard backend



Back End: sharp


Overall Hook: moderately aggressive


Midlane Read: none


Breakpoint Shape: skid/snap



COMMENTS


Likes: Strong move off of friction, easy length, versatility, and super pin carry



Dislikes: none


The Brute is the second ball in the Brunswick line to use the new fortify reactive coverstock.  This cover reacts very differently to friction when compared to other coverstocks in the line.  It is long and extremely quick off the friction.  Fortify reactive defines the new more angular reaction of Brunswick balls.  The Fortera Exile was the first ball to use this cover and it has allowed me to open up the lane more once the lanes broke down while using less side rotation.  The Brute uses a symmetrical core and flares less allowing me to see even later and harder recovery.  It is about 5 boards weaker than the Fortera Exile with several feet more length.  The Brute has become my go to ball when the head oil starts to go away and I need late recovery down the lane.   It is like having a Platinum Ringer with another gear at the breakpoint.  This ball is crazy stout.  I liked the first one so much that I drilled a second one with a different pin down layout.  This ball goes even longer than the first and still has a very hard move off of the friction.  It was several boards straighter as well.  I added surface to it and I have found it to be a very useful ball for playing next to the dry on the fresh house condition.  This ball has the length and response time every bowler is looking for with added versatility.  I haven't found a spot I can't get it back from with the right amount of side rotation.  If you need more length, recovery, and a skid flip reaction then get nasty with the Brute.
Chris Garrett
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Re: Brute
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2014, 05:00:49 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 40 ft.

Volume: ?

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS, except with out-of-bounds (what's that?)


COMMENTS

Likes:  Drilled this one 4 1/2" from PAP and 1" below the fingers, with a hole below the thumb on the VAL due to pin length, etc.  I wanted a ball that I could use closer to friction playing straighter lines and this ball allows me that, and then some!  For a straight up the boards line this Brute is a HOME RUN.  Very strong finish, but not "flippy" so I couldn't be happier!

Dislikes: None, (but Brunswick could have gone without the guy on the logo). Hardly a reason to bypass a stellar reaction as this one.


PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS

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Re: Brute
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2014, 06:27:22 PM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 41 feet

Volume: medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): House Shot


COMMENTS

Likes: quick revving strong reacting to dry. Best for medium to drier conditions. Hits very hard. All styles will like this ball. Love the cosmetics of the ball, it's beautiful. Great ball for a house shot with friction outside, ball comes back from anywhere but still has great skid in the oil. Compared to my Intrigue, the first 30 feet are very similar, the Intrigue skids out easier, Intrigue has much more back end.

Dislikes: over priced, to many competitors have similar balls in lower price point levels.


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Re: Brute
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2014, 08:39:01 PM »
[BALL SPECS

Pin Length: 3-4

Starting Top Weight: 3.2

Ball Weight: 15


DRILL PATTERN

Pin to PAP: 5 1/2

CG to PAP: 4

X Hole (if there is one): none


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate: 520

Ball Speed: 18.5

PAP/Track: 4 5/8 right 3/16 down


SURFACE PREP

Grit: Box surface 500 grit saair, Royal Compound, Royal Shine

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polished


LANE CONDITION

Length: Multiple

Volume: Multiple

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS and Sport Pattern


BALL REACTION

Length: 9/10

Back End: 9/10

Overall Hook: 8/10

Midlane Read: 9/10

Breakpoint Shape: Arc


COMMENTS

Likes: Love the length I get out of this ball, on a fresh pattern I have to move right a little but can not to much and can get a great strong yet archy reaction from it. Also on the dry or late shift house shots I still get enough length to make it through the heads without losing any energy for the backend and hit. This is the most times the first ball out of my bag, but is almost always what I finish a set with.

Dislikes:None


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This review is of my own thoughts of this product. and is not a representation or opinion given to me by Brunswick bowling products

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Re: Brute
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2014, 08:12:47 AM »
Bobby Benton
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Brunswick Brute (http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/brute/)
Rico (OOB Surface)
35 x 2 ¾ x 55 (2000 siaair)

Personal Stats:
400-450 RPM
18-20 MPH
PAP – 5 5/8” over, 1” up
Axis Tilt – Estimated 8-12 Degrees
http://youtu.be/XywVojKDWR4#t=1h12m50s (example)
Current League Average: 237
Sanctioned Sport Average: 210

Intended Use:
I drilled up two Brutes with different purposes. The first Brute, I used a Rico layout with OOB surface. The Rico layout is pin-in-palm, CG/Hole 45 degrees, hole 6 ¾” from pin. The purpose of this layout is to help the ball get started earlier and blend out over/under for high speed and/or low-rev players. The purpose of this layout was for a typical house pattern. I wanted to stick with the shiny OOB surface for maximum entry angle. The Rico layout helps the ball get started just a little bit earlier so I don’t have the super over/under a house pattern can create for high-rev guys.

The second Brute, I used a layout for early hook and control. The purpose for this Brute is for tougher, medium/short, flatter conditions. This layout should get the ball into an early, controllable motion without seeing any overhook off the dry part of the lane. This should allow me to play straighter on flatter patterns, knowing the ball won’t go sideways off the back of the pattern and hook too much.

Reaction:
The first Brute is exactly as intended. Even with a Rico layout to get the ball started sooner, this is the most backend I have seen out of a Brunswick ball in quite a while. This is absolutely perfect for a typical house pattern. I am able to stand wherever I want on the lane and adjust only speed and let the ball do the rest. For a mid-price ball, this thing hooks! The hybrid cover is clean through the heads all the way through game 3 of a 5-man league where other balls in my bag start to read that friction early. The Rico layout gets it started in the mids and then this ball makes a left turn as soon as it has cleared the pattern.

The second Brute is my go-to ball on any medium length, challenging lane condition. This ball does exactly what I wanted it to. The hybrid cover with the layout/surface combination creates early, controllable shape to help conquer tougher lane conditions. Because of the layout, I can stay in the friction longer with this ball because it doesn’t overhook. The biggest advantage this ball gives me is on my misses. My misses tend to get 9 way more often because of the controllable characteristics of the ball, rather than leaving splits with something that creates more motion downlane.

Overall:
This is easily one of my favorite balls released by Brunswick. The cover is VERY versatile; it takes to surface adjustments extremely well. The OOB Brute has given me the most back-end of any piece in my bag, while the 2000 siaair Brute gives me an excellent controllable shape for tougher conditions. ANYONE can fit a Brute into their arsenal somewhere, depending on what you are looking to achieve out of the ball.

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Re: Brute
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2014, 12:38:33 PM »
The Brute is a ball I was waiting for from Brunswick. A higher RG and lower diff. The Brute uses a Hydrid cover that provides effortless length and a beautiful motion off the friction. This ball does need friction to be best used. I am slightly rev dominant so this ball is great for me.

Drilling #1 is 30x5x70 with 1500 grit surface. This was used for on purpose. Shorter patterns. This will allow me to stay right longer and not have to worry about the ball being too much off the spot.

Drilling #2 is 50x4.5x35 with a double thumb hole. This ball was drilled to be used on an every day use on a lot of patterns. I use this ball quote often on house shots. Really provide effortless length with a nice pop off the spot.

This is a must have ball for any tournament arsenal!!
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Re: Brute
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2015, 05:17:46 PM »
Andrew Adler
Right Handed
PAP 4 ½ over 5/8 up
Rev Rate 500, Speed 17 mph
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An excellent addition to the mid-price range of equipment, the Brute allows me to control the midlane reaction very well. Quick response off the backend of the pattern. I drilled mine with the pin through the ring finger, cg kicked out with a low balance hole to the right of my thumb. This ball lets me get right and it stands up strong, providing huge hitting power when going through the pocket.

Bowled on THS 42' and 43', 24-25ml of oil.

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Re: Brute
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2015, 09:24:37 PM »
Bowling Style:
   Rev rate: 300 rpm
   Speed: 16-17 mph
   PAP: 5” right, ½” up
Layout:
   80 x 5” x 30
   x-hole: N/A
Surface:
   4000 siaair
Comments:
   Brunswick expanded their all purpose line by making the Brute. The Brute is designed for control; this ball controls the middle and backend of the lane. They do this by having a new low RG core as well as having a low differential, meaning the ball doesn’t take a lot to hook, but when it does, it’s a controllable hook. For myself, this is a ball that I have never seen from any Brunswick family. When I first was throwing the ball it gave me a lot of over/under reaction, so I hit the surface with a 4000 siaair pad and now this ball is a great second ball out of my bag. When the lanes start to get to jumpy for the more aggressive balls, I can switch to the Brute and it gives me the ultimate control. This ball has especially helped me at an old wooden house that I bowl at, this house has an extremely worn in track area and this ball allows me to be able to play further right whereas with more aggressive balls I have to move deeper and with my lower rev rate I tend to leave a lot of corner pins. If it is control and great pin carry you are looking for the Brute is the choice for you!
Jeremy Angevine
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Re: Brute
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2015, 01:24:25 PM »
DRILL PATTERN

Pin to PAP: 5-1/2"

Val Angle: 75 Degrees

X Hole (if there is one): None


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate: 400
 
Ball Speed: 18

PAP/Track: 5-1/8rt, 1/2 up


SURFACE PREP

Grit: Box Finish

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polish (Royal Shine)


LANE CONDITION

Length: 41/43

Volume: Medium/Medium-Low

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS/Sport


BALL REACTION

Length: 9/10

Back End: 8/10

Overall Hook: 7/10

Midlane Read: Very little, if any, with this layout

Breakpoint Shape: Hard Arc


COMMENTS

The Brute is a great rolling ball. I think this layout really matched up for me with this ball. It’s effortless through the fronts, especially when the lanes are transitioning. The lower pin in this case really smoothed out the backend motion which is probably a good thing, because it still turned the corner very well.

Overall, I think the shape this ball creates is very versatile for medium to lower volumes and multiple angles at that. Im sure with a pin up layout, I would see sharper response down lane, and that would probably fit a good spot as I continue to open up my angles.

I compared this ball to some others with the same or similar layout, the Radical Reax Gusto and Radical Yeti Uncaged. The Brute is about 3 weaker than the Gusto, and 5-6 weaker than the Uncaged. It gets the most length of the three, and has the sharpest response.

On a fresh THS, I can play anywhere between 2nd and 3rd arrow with this ball and it gives me good recovery on misses right without overreacting. I don't have to play big angles as the ball is not intended to hook out of your hand. I am able to move left if there is a good amount of friction to bounce off of. Recently, on the 43' dead man's curve pattern, which is fairly low volume sport pattern, I was able to get into 4th and 5th arrow easily with this ball on the fresh and create good down lane motion but enough control to have a little more miss room than normal. I was able to jump back and forth between this ball and a Vintage LT48 (same layout), with the Brute giving me just a little bit more overall motion, maybe 2-3 boards.

The neat thing about this ball is that it shares the new Fortify coverstock technology with a CURRENT high performance ball. It is not a recycled technology from retired high end lines. This goes to show that the latest technology from Brunswick isn’t reserved for the most expensive balls. If you're looking for a ball for everyday conditions that gives you some good kick down lane, get yourself a Brute!

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Re: Brute
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2015, 10:25:32 AM »
BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate: 400

Ball Speed: 18.5

PAP/Track: 4 9/16 right 1/4 up


LANE CONDITION


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS

Layout 60 x 5 x 30

There is only one other Brunswick ball ever made that I like as much as this one, Versa Max. This ball became my favorite piece in the bag after the first night I threw it. Very clean, very controllable, great energy retention and awesome pin carry describes this ball. This ball is a house pattern killer. It does not hydroplane in oil and it does not jackknife off of the dry. If you need a new medium ball that you can throw on a wide variety of conditions, look no further than this one.

Greg
Greensburg, PA

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Re: Brute
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2015, 01:43:06 PM »
[Bowling Style:
Rev rate: 400 rpm
Speed: 17-17.5 mph
PAP: 4.25” left, ½” up
Layout:
80 x 5” x 30
x-hole: N/A
Surface:
oob
Comments:
Brunswick expanded their all purpose line by making the Brute. The Brute is designed for control; this ball controls the middle and backend of the lane. They do this by having a new low RG core as well as having a low differential, meaning the ball doesn’t take a lot to hook, but when it does, it’s a controllable hook. For myself, this is a ball that I have never seen from any Brunswick family. The hybrid cover helps me get a nice even roll down the line and rips hard on the backend.I can use  the Brute from start to finish with not alot of change and it gives me the ultimate control. This ball has especially helped me at an old wooden house that I bowl at, this house has an extremely worn in track area and this ball allows me to be able to play further right whereas with more aggressive balls I have to move deeper and with my lower rev rate I tend to leave a lot of corner pins. If it is control and great pin carry you are looking for the Brute is the choice for you
Eric Brought
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