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BVP Mammoth
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
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BVP – Brunswick Value Performance – Exceptional Value and Great Performance
The Brunswick BVPâ„¢ series has been developed to provide the widest range of reactions available at the popular mid-price point.  The BVP series provides any bowler the ball performance they’re looking for at a price they can afford.

Technology
The BVP Mammoth brings two new technologies into the BVP line, Multi-Sided Symmetric Core Technology and Activator High Load Particle Coverstock, to create performance that improves on the reaction of balls such as the BVP Goliath and Swamp Monster.

Multi-Sided symmetric core designs have been used in Brunswick High Performance balls since 2000.  Featuring exotic shapes that are easy to drill, the Multi-Sided shape is locked into the outer core, leaving little chance for core separation.  The Rocket Core used in the 14-16 pound Mammoth pushes the RG to a lower level than previous BVP balls.  Brunswick research has shown that lower RG’s are a better match for today’s lane conditions, which often include: high efficiency lubricants, daily full-lane stripping, and longer, higher volume lane oil patterns.  In this environment, lower RG’s improve mid-lane traction and reduce over/under reactions at the breakpoint.

The Mammoth utilizes a High Load Particle version of Activator Coverstock Technology.  Activator coverstock technology was introduced into Brunswick High Performance Balls in 2003 and is known for its durability and ball reaction.  The Mammoth’s Activator high load particle coverstock propels it to the highest hook potential rating ever for a Brunswick ball.  

Reaction Characteristics
•Out of the Box: With its out of the Box 400-grit wet sand surface, the Mammoth creates an early rolling, big hooking reaction favored by bowlers who struggle with too much length.  This could include any bowler on oily lane conditions, or higher speed, and medium to lower rev rate players, on medium amounts of oil.
•When shined: Dull surface finishes can sometimes hook too early resulting in reduced backend reaction and hitting power.  To increase length, polish the surface with either Brunswick’s Factory Finish “High Gloss Polish” or “Rough Buff”.  After polishing, your Mammoth will go longer in the oil and react stronger to the dry creating an arc, that while still even in character, is slightly more skid/snap than the “out-of–the-box” reaction.  

A polished Mammoth has a slightly lower hook potential and is an excellent choice for smoothing the over/under reactions bowlers sometimes see with Reactive coverstock balls.  When the dry part of the lane is too dry, either in the track or at the end of the oil pattern, a polished Mammoth can smooth over reactions, maintain good traction in the oil, while retaining the big hook potential associated with Reactive coverstocks.

Coverstock
Activator®
High Load Particle

Color:  
Blue/Copper Solid
Hardness: 76-78
Glow Engraving
Factory Finish
400-Grit Wet Sand
More Information

Core Dynamics
Two-component
Dynamically
Symmetrical core
RG Max: 2.544”  
RG Min: 2.499”
RG Diff: 0.045”
RG Avg: 3.5 out of 10
Performance
Hook Potential 165
Length 40
Breakpoint Shape 45
Available Weights
10-16 Pounds

 

Dwight Albrecht

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Re: BVP Mammoth
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2006, 12:17:03 AM »
BVP Mammoth
Ball Specs
The ball being drilled was a 3” pin out with 3.00 oz top weight.
Drilling: Pin 3 3/4" from PAP and Mb 60 degree angle. Pin is above ring finger, 3" above grip midline. Weight Hole on my axis. Factory Sanded.

Bowler Information:
Track diameter is 10 1/2.
PAP is measured at 5 1/4 over and 3/8" up.
Average ball speed (foul line to head pin) is 17 mph.
Axis rotation is typically 90 degrees
Initial rev rate is typically 300 rpm, "Tweener"
Lane Condition and Pattern:
Bowlero Lanes, HPL 9000 Panel. Oil Pattern: Fairly Flat condition from edge board to edge board, semi clean backends.

Review:
Brunswick New Mammoth has some old and some new in terms of technology and ball reaction. The old is Brunswick Still feels there is a market for Ceramic Bead Particle Technolgy. The new is a Better Coverstock and weight block design. The result is improved ball reaction from previous balls like the Goliath, Swamp Monster, and Teal Pro Zones.

This ball is cleaner through the fronts and stronger on the backs. 1st Night with the ball I shot 706, pretty good for a mid priced particle ball.

Now that Brunswick has their new State of the Art Plant in Mexico, you can expect to see more and more improvements in their lines of balls.

This ball is your fudge knuckler special, low rev rates will love this ball, speed dominant players will love this ball.

Thanks for reading my review.
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Re: BVP Mammoth
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2006, 08:43:58 PM »
Be nice as this is my 1st review.  Thanks BrunsRicH.
55 year old fart.  Bowl OK.  
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Pin 1 ½ inch
2 ½ oz top weight

Drilled Brunswick 1E.  
Flare increasing hole and yes Ric I tried it 1st without the hole.

Bowling on 40 foot old house wood lanes Brunswick shot that comes with the Kegel Kustodian.  This ball wants some “oil” in the front.  Otherwise burn out even with my limp hand.  Had to move 6 right of where I use the Red Zone on this shot, ( I’m a lefty), and throw much firmer with more loft.  Ball hits like a tank and keeps the pins very low to the deck.  Was finally able to practice inside with a ball again instead of outside shot after outside shot.

Compared to the Goliath.  Seems to make a more consistent move to the pocket then the Goliath.  Keeps turning when sometimes the Goliath would check.  Will see if it shines up as quickly as the Goliath.  Will drag my Swamp Monster out of retirement and compare also.  Will save this ball for tourneys with plenty of oil.  

This ball starts early as it should.   Kind of reminds me of my retired Blue Hammer.  Very nice “even” arc to the pocket.  Tweeners and strokers should like this ball if they can keep their speed up if not on heavy oil.  

Hope this helps a Brunser thinking about this ball.  Every indication is a great heavy oil ball.

Corey C

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Re: BVP Mammoth
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2006, 12:55:34 AM »
2" Pin to CG
Drilled 5.5" Pin to PAP pin under middle finger
Surface altered to 2000 Abralon with no polish

After throwing about a game with my new Mammoth, I decided that I needed a flare increasing hole. The rings were very close to each other. I gave the ball to Rich Huzina my pro shop operator, and we put a 7/8" hole 2.25" down and 2.25" deep. The flares opened up and this gave me a better look through the pins.

The reaction is very smooth and will be great on a tough flat condition. It won't give me the forgiveness that a reactive prl/sld will on a THS, but it will help keep me out of trouble on a sport shot.

I am looking forward to using this ball in the next few weeks to get a better feel for the motion it makes to the pocket.



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Re: BVP Mammoth
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2007, 07:13:40 PM »
16# BVP Mammoth
4" pin

The ball is laid out 5 3/8" pin to pap, 4 1/4" above my midlane, and the cg straight down from that.

About me.. PAP=4 3/4" over and 1/2" up

I tried the ball out in the beginning at 400 grit, but it was alot of ball, so I tried the ball at 500grit + polish. The ball become better, but it wasn't too good for any THS.. so the current finish is 1000+polish.

This finish gives me the best look at the lanes, and the most consistant roll. The ball in this finish can recover from the outside better then when it's dull and is great in the middle if you decide to play there, or if you tug the ball a little.

Today I threw some balls in my arsenal to compare the ball reaction to.

I bowled on a Med/Heavy THS.. I'd say around 8/1.. pretty tight in the beginning.

Compared the the Radical, of course it's smoother, but the ideal line was RIGHT of where I was playing with the Rad. With the Rad I was playing 13(arrows) to 8(breakpoint), but with the Mammoth I was playing 11 to 5. I could play inside also, but I wasn't as comfortable personally. The line I found the best in there was 14 to 10. This kept the ball in the oil, and being high load particle it bit through the oil and smashed the pocket.

I was able to play right or left of the Radical.. all with the same hand position and rotation. This is because in the light oil it's so smooth that it won't over react in the dry, and inside in the oil, it bites through the oil nicely and recovers great.

I have a Rampage, and I personally like this Rocket core better than the Bell.. better carry and hit without a doubt.

Whoever says this ball is too strong and useless is crazy. Polish this ball and it give you such a different look that NO OTHER BALL CAN GIVE YOU.

Props to Brunswick for the first new BVP ball in Mexico. This is a great ball reaction and a great ball. I lok forward to see what comes after this ball in the BVP line, and when comes out in general.. since it's looking good from here on!

-Chris

P.s. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to message me about it, since I would be more than happy to help you out.
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Re: BVP Mammoth
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2007, 06:16:22 PM »
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Lay Out: 5.5" from PAP(on grip line,under bridge), 65deg angle. 1" Wt hole, 2" down VAL and 3" deep so as to hit the core.

Surface: Box, then 500abr, then 1000abr, then 2000abr.

Purpose: To give myself a arsenal gap ball that I could really cut my angle down with and keep on line on tougher sport type conditions.

Observations: I have tried this on a couple of tougher conditions (US Open and Scorpion patterns) along with a couple of THS. Box finish is way too much burn, so I tried to smooth it up to 500. Still too much burn. 1000 was closer, but very little hitting power. I finally went up to 2000 and this ball was more playable on the THS with that surface. On the 40 & 41 foot patterns, very little recovery if any.

Final thoughts: Sometimes there are balls that no matter what you do to them, it isn't going to happen and you have to decide when to fold and cut your losses. I folded after about 4-5 tweaks and different things. Now this is no way indicative of Brunswick and the quality products they put out. I have had good numbers/experiences with several of their pieces past and present. Sometimes a style just doesn't match up with a ball. I struggle with particle because of my early roll and particle promotes early roll which for me can mean diminished carry power. If I were to drill another one of these, it would be to polish the surface and the pin would be higher to hold energy a little bit longer.
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Re: BVP Mammoth
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2007, 09:36:23 AM »
Yep,

This is my first particle ball as I started bowling no earlier than mid December last year. I then purchased an used Ebonite Vortex Afterburner and wanted some more skid and hook action on my new ball.

Local Pro shop operator a M-category bowler himself recommended the Mammoth to me. I do not know if I'm having lot of spin or not, but there are about 6 traces of oil on my ball after every shot I've made. The ball is drilled by Brunswick recommendations to 2L, no X-hole.

I had lots of trouble in wet lane conditions with the former ball and wanted to have some more hook in the end of track. That is what I got. However I've been told that there is no ball on the market that would make a lot of arrows if thrown as fast as I do. My average ball speed is about 19 mph (31 km/h).

The Afterburner did not turn at all on last tournament oil pattern that was something like 41 foots of oil. There was flat increase on oil through out the lane and I could not figure out what to do. I somehow managed to slow down to 16 - 17 mph and got things running well to my standards. I scored at the last elimination round 1021 and it was nice to see the ball doing allmost as many battens as I wanted.

I have had more consistant track with the Mammoth than with the Afterburner with which I posted a 268 a month ago. With Mammoth I've managed to score only 244, but in general the Mammoth has proved to be easier to keep hiting the pocket, yet some sevens and tens have been left to spare shots...

All this discussion on how a ball behaves puzzles me even more, but as a B.Sc I've taken also this sport quite seriously and try to find out as much as possible on the equipment as well as the technicks.

Anyway I love the Mammoth. It's great to see MY ball hooking like when the pros strike!

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Re: BVP Mammoth
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2007, 10:16:00 PM »
well, i got this ball used about a month ago from nodsleinad. ironically enough, our spans were identical, so i didnt have to change a thing on the ball. the ball is drilled rico, with an x hole in the thumb quadrant. surface is OOB. threw this ball on the viper pattern and scorpion. ball is really strong on these patterns if you know where to play. the last time on scorpion(which is 41 feet, i believe) i started playing right up 15, out to 10-12, and back to the hole.by the end of the night, i was out to a laydown of 30ish, aiming at 22-23, with the breakpoint being 45 feet down lane at about 7-8 board. this ball is super aggressive, and if you have the proper lane conditions, hand positions, and whatnot, this ball will be great on heavy oil.
btw, i was unable to throw this ball at my regular house because it was so strong. now i cant wait for the shark pattern. great ball by brunswick and my 1st big b ball after the original sapphire zone i got from my dad.

thanx for reading.

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Re: BVP Mammoth
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2007, 08:49:39 AM »
This ball is a snowtire ....
I cannot belive how this thing cuts thru the sauce.

If you need a heavy oil monster, this is the deal.

VERY VERY condition specific.  I bet with a shine, this would tear apart a house wet/dry.

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Re: BVP Mammoth
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2007, 11:47:52 PM »
I'm really glad I've waited this long to post a review of this ball.  I had been using it sparingly on medium and med/heavy patterns, which is not the ball's forte.  Had been thinking this ball would spend 97% of its time in the bag, waiting for the next flood.  I had read other reviews which suggested the ball was not friendly toward reducing the surface....

Ball is 14 lb pin under ring finger, CG kicked out 45 deg.  

Recently, I cut the surface down to 2000 grit Abralon.  Wow--this ball came alive on my house shot (AMF synthetics) like you wouldn't believe.  It's now a great 1-2 combination with my Shift.  It has just the right length and a very strong reaction at the end of the pattern, with good carry.  It's truly freaky.  I now believe I can play anywhere I need to, inside or out, on house conditions, and return the surface to box condition next time there's a flood.

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Re: BVP Mammoth
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2008, 10:37:16 PM »
With the Mammoth's 400 grit wet sand out of box finish it tended to over react for me so I applied factory finish polish and WOW!!! what a difference in the balls backend reaction. The only reason I even got the Mammoth was because I traded my friend my Wizard for his Mammoth, and i'm really glad I made the trade. The Mammoth is a lot easier to control for me with the polish on it. Another great ball from Brunswick!!! Mammoth rating oobf-8/10, after applying polish-10/10.