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Title: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
- Coverstock: CFT (Chemical Friction Technology) 2.5 Reactive
- Color: 2-Color Pearl Red/Blue
- Hardness: 75-76
- Factory Finish: 4000-grit Micro Pad
- Weight Block: (14-16#) I-Block Two-component Asymmetrical Core
- RG max: 2.570
- RG int: 2.553
- RG min: 2.520
- RG diff: 0.050
- RG asym: 0.017
- Average RG: 4.4 of 10
- Hook Potential: 155 (Scale 10-175)
- Length: 105 (Scale 25-235)
- Typical Breakpoint Shape: 90 Angular (Scale Smooth Arc 10-Angular 100)
- Flare Potential: 0.050 High (Scale Low 0.00-High 0.060)
- Recommended Lane Condition: Medium-Oily
- Description: Coverstock: CFT 2.5 The chemistry was uniquely designed to have shaped molecular structures that produce a high coefficient of friction. Because of the shape of the molecule, when the ball goes into rolling friction, which occurs at the back part of the lane, slippage is eliminated and the ball will give you maximum entry and carry. Core: I-Block - The new I-Block core was engineered specifically for the CFT 2.5 coverstock to create maximum forgiveness, strong angles along with versatile drilling layouts. Ball Motion: With its 4000-grit micro pad finish, the C-(System) 2.5 will provide good length with a strong continuous backend reaction that matches up on medium to oily lane conditions for a wide range of bowling styles. Reaction Setup: The C-(System) 2.5 can be drilled using the standard drilling techniques developed for asymmetric bowling balls. After more than 18 months of research, development, and extensive lab and field tests, Brunswick is proud to introduce the new C-(System) 2.5 bowling ball, developed in close collaboration with Hall of Fame bowler Carmen Salvino. In addition to being a legendary bowler, Salvino conducts scientific research and holds multiple patents related to bowling ball design. This new line of performance bowling balls features Chemical Friction Technology (CFT). As Salvino explains, "The coverstock was chemically designed to have shaped molecular structures that produce a high coefficient of friction. Because of the shape of the molecule, when the ball goes into rolling friction, which occurs at the back part of the lane, slippage is eliminated and the ball will give you the maximum entry and carry. This is the advantage of chemical friction versus mechanical friction." "The chemistry is versatile enough that even if sanded or polished, it will not change the shape of the molecule. That is the uniqueness of this chemistry." The Chemical Friction Technology in the new C-(System) 2.5 is a difference you can feel!
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: RSalas on September 26, 2009, 05:27:28 PM
Ball: Brunswick C-(System) 2.5

Layout:

Pin 5” from PAP below fingers
45-degree locator line angle
(Dual-angle:  45 by 5” by 70)
XH on VAL, 2” below PAP, 7/8” by 2” deep

Initial Surface Preparation:

Box finish

Purpose:

To bridge the gap between the Wild Ride/Wild Thing and the “Snake” balls.  More specifically, to get recovery from the friction on conditions where the Wilds are burning up, but where there isn’t quite enough dry for the Rattler and Python to make the turn in back.

Why this ball?

The intent of the CFG 2.5 coverstock that is used on the C-(System) 2.5 is to provide a stronger reaction to friction than what is currently available in the Brunswick line.  When combined with a moderately strong asymmetric core, it seemed to me that the C-(S) could give me the reaction shape that I was seeking.

Observations:

The first time I used the C-(System) 2.5 was at a center with five-year-old Pro Anvilanes, on a pair of lanes that had been used for a qualifying squad for an ABT tournament.  I warmed up with the Rattler, and as long as I didn’t get the ball too wide of target, I had a good look at the pocket.  I then switched to the C-(S), and found my best look from eight-and-four left of where I had started.  From there, the C-(S) was creating some hold for me, while still recovering nicely from the house track.

I’ve used the C-(System) at the same center in a second-shift league.  Typically, I don’t like to use pin-down equipment in this league, for while there is plenty of free hook to the outside, the condition tends to favor a more direct trajectory to the pocket.  The C-(S) has been clean enough through the front part of the lane to allow me to play the lanes in this fashion, though, while still having enough strength in the back part of the lane to give me a good carry angle.

I’ve also used this ball several times at a center with HPL in front and older wood in back, on a fresh condition with fairly high volume in front and clean back ends.  On this condition, the C-(System) was really at home, as I could get my feet left and align myself to the dry boards, and not have to worry about whether the ball would recover.  Even on shots where I missed right, the C-(S) retained well enough to finish strong and carry the corners.

Conclusions:

Usually, when I have a ball that is strong off of friction, it doesn’t do so well at riding an oil line, and vice versa.  The C-(System) 2.5 gives me the best of both worlds, and in addition, it has that strong look through the pin deck that the Wilds and the Python have.  In addition, this ball seems to get better and better as I go deeper on the lane  I’ve yet to encounter an inside limitation with the C-(S).

The C-(S) doesn’t seem to break the lane down quite as quickly as balls such as the Radical Inferno and Wild Ride have for me, and the C-(S) doesn’t read transition quite as abruptly.

While I had originally viewed the C-(System) 2.5 as a ball to take me from the Wilds to the Snakes, I’m finding that, on conditions with enough friction to allow me to give away the pocket, I can stay with the C-(S) and keep following the transition deeper inside.

NOTE:  The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
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Brunswick Amateur Staff
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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: on October 02, 2009, 05:53:35 PM
LAYOUT: 4" from PAP above the fingers, MB at about 50 degrees. Factory surface.

I bowl on a fresh house pattern on harder synthetics, as well as a second shift league. This ball has been great on both, but it seems to get better as the back ends start to transition and other pearls want to "skate" if they hit carry-down.

Overall ball motion is nice, but HOW the ball reads the lane is unique in my opinion. This ball doesn't know the meaning of deflection through the pin deck. It simply provides a strong move late on the lane without being unpredictable. This ball has given me the confidence to open up the lane more and more as the night goes on with EXCEPTIONAL pin carry.

Brunswick and Mr. Salvino are onto something special with this release.

Please feel free to message me in this site if I can answer any specific questions for you.






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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: baer300 on October 05, 2009, 12:35:29 PM
Ok I finally got to throw this enough to post a review on what I think. Drilled this gem with 55x5 1/2x35. I wanted to see a lttle more midlane than I had with my Wild Thing. I got this with out a problem. My initial thought of this ball being a bit weaker was wrong. When I put this ball at the same Sruface as my Wild Thing it was a tad stronger. The downlane motion was similar. I also compared this to a Siege drilled 65x5x25. These two were almost identical on a house shot. Had I been bowling on mre oil the CS would have been a bit stronger but not much.
I found the CS to be a great ball with great carry. I was trying various angles thorugh the front part of the lane and all of them recovered nicely and went through the pins even better. I have found a great little combo with another Siege drilled a little smoother then going to the CS and then to the WT as the Wild does have a little more off the spot as long as I get the surface right. Out of box surface on the CS and WT shows the WT with a tad more down lane. I prefer my WT at 2000.

This will be agreat ball for people needing a benchmark ball.
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BRUNSWICK ADVISORY STAFF
VISE REGIONAL STAFF
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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: bingadot on October 07, 2009, 01:58:39 PM
I drilled my C System 30 x 4-1/2 x 20.

This ball has been fantastic for me!  While the ball comes pearlized, I have found that it works best with some measure of head oil to help it retain energy for the back end.  

The ball picks up in the midlane very consistently and finishes strong through the pocket.  My rev rate is in the 285-315 range so I seldom see a ball really peel off of the spot when higher volumes of oil are used but the C System has given me a larger window on those conditons.  As the shot migrates in I have been able to stay with this ball far deeper than I had expected.  A hand position change and a little faith into the dry and the ball shreds the rack.

If you haven't tried the latest generations of Brunswick bowling balls you have left a hole in your bag.  The new coverstocks create more of the sexy snap people are looking for but still have the legendary Brunswick durability.  Game 1 and game 101 the ball will cure what ails you!

Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: BrunsWolf on October 08, 2009, 11:52:21 PM
Layout:
60 by 5.25” by 50
no hole
OOB surface

Bowler stats:
325 rpm
18.5mph

Conditions:
39’ THS
PBA Scorpion (both on Pro Anvil)

I used a similar layout to what was on my Siege because I was looking for this ball to complement the Siege when it started to have trouble cornering at the end of the pattern.

Let me say this up front, I have never, and I mean NEVER, seen a ball that drives through the pins like this ball does. It was on the 30th board on several occasions as it left the pin deck after a flush hit. Nothing I’ve ever thrown or anything that I’ve seen other people throw hit like this ball does. Period.

I knew this ball would be too much on my THS but I had to test it out on it anyway just for fun. On fresh I laid the ball down on 25 and sent it out to around 6 at the breakpoint. The midlane was very strong, as was the recovery. As long as the ball was between 10 and 3 at the breakpoint, it got back to the pocket. However, between the characteristics of my center and the THS we put out, outside angles always score better compared to playing deeper, so I had an even better look amping up my speed and playing 15 (laydown) to 7(breakpoint). But it still wanted more oil…

On the scorpion, the ball was more at home due to the increased length and units of the pattern. I started out using my Siege with a very similar drill with a laydown of 14 out to 10. When I threw the C-S in practice, I was 2 boards further inside due to more response at the end of the pattern. During transition, my Siege saw a little carrydown and started to deflect through the pins. I switched to my C-S and stayed with the same line in practice that I had found. I couldn’t tell the carrydown was even there!

If you are looking for a ball for longer patterns and higher volumes that isn’t sensitive to carrydown, then the C-System is for you. In talking with Chris Loschetter last week, he said that its ability to handle the carrydown seen on tour is why it is in the bags of so many of the free agents (including him). If this ball isn’t in your bag, you’re missing out on a great product.

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Jared Wolf
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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Corey C on October 21, 2009, 06:34:38 PM
70 x 5" x 35
Pin above the fingers
No hole
2000 Abralon(haus)

I have been using this ball for a while, changing surfaces to experiment with the new coverstock. I am confident now that the 2000 finish suits my game the best. The 4000/4000 polish gave me too much skid/flip, and 1000 was way too aggressive.

The ball gets through the pins better with the surface adjustment. Don't be scared to tweak it if you think yours is not hitting hard enough. You do need some head oil. I've bowled in a few older houses with beat up synthetic lanes and the C System reads that extra friction too much.

It's a good benchmark ball to start your block with.


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Corey Clayton
Brunswick Amateur Staff
Turbo Grips Staff
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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: applegam on October 28, 2009, 10:56:39 PM
Placed the pin over my ring finger, MB at 45 deg.  This put the pin at 5 inches from my PAP.  I really wasn't sure what to expect from this one, tried it at out of the box surface to start.  I tried it at a fairly long house pattern.   I was very, very impressed.  It's kind of hard to equate this ball motion to anything else out there right now.  Through the heads, it really reminded me of the Absolute Inferno - one of the best Big B balls of all time. Super, super clean in the front.  The break point was very, very sharp.  But, what I typically see is that when balls now days take a turn that hard, they kind of straighten out.  This thing just keeps moving through the pin deck.

I brought it down to 2000 abralon to tame the brake point down a little.  I really love it at this surface. Just as clean in the front and a little more tame on the back.  The boys over at Big B have really hit a few home runs lately.  Keep them coming!
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: footerson on October 31, 2009, 06:36:07 PM
i laid out my c-system 4X4. i wanted a ball that would be strong yet controllable enough to start with on most of the houses we bowl at for high school season and i get more then i expected. i knocked the polish off and it turned out to be the strongest ball i've ever thrown im averaging close to 250 with on after about 11 games and i can use it all games of a series. this ball is deffinatly a winner. brunswick is finally puttin out good balls
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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: pin-chaser on November 10, 2009, 08:56:46 AM
New to Revaluations so be patient:

(my specs are in my profile)
Drilled this ball 5"x10degreesx5" which placed the pin below my ring finger.

I was looking for a ball that read the midlanes and still had something on the back end. My release mistakes are always to stay behind the ball and loose axis rotation which ultimately produces plaque 10's. So finding a ball that will let me get away with even some of these would be a benifit.

What I recieved was this and more. When I release this ball correctly the ball goes through the pins like nothing else I have thrown... it produce more entry angle and my ball actually hits the 8 pin sometimes. Thats a far cry from a strike where the ball goes staright through the pin deck entering on 17.5 and off the tail plank at 17.5. Sure I leave some 9's (LOL) but they are easier than 10's and alot more fun.

As for the issue with my relases, this ball somehow does not deflect as much in the pocket despite the ball rolling end over end into the pins. Some of the plaque 10's are gone. I think there might be something to this Salvino technology.
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Dwight Albrecht on November 10, 2009, 02:48:23 PM
Brunswick C-System 2.5
Ball Specs
The ball being drilled was a 3” pin out with 3.00 oz top weight.
Drilling: Pin 4" from PAP and Mb 45 degrees from PAP, 70 degrees V.A.L. Line DUAL ANGLE. Pin is below ring finger. Weight Hole 1" below midline. Factory Sanded 4000.

Bowler Information:
Track diameter is 11 5/8.
PAP is measured at 4 11/16 over and 11/16 up.
Average ball speed (foul line to head pin) is 13 mph.
Axis rotation is typically 90 degrees
Initial rev rate is typically 200 rpm, "Tweener"
Lane Condition and Pattern:
New Berlin Bowl HPL 9000 Panel. Oil Pattern: THS condition medium oil outsides, heavier oil inside, semi clean backends.

Review:
While I am out recovering from Hip replacement surgery, I am having my daughter Ashley test this ball for me. 180 Average 17 year old with medium to slow speed and a low spinner type track.

In one word "WOW". What a ball. It is her start with ball, her most confident ball in the bag. Numerous houses and different lines with this ball and the ball adjust beautifully to all of them. Gets through the fronts so clean, reacts so well on the back end part of the lane, reads the carry down very well. I am the most impressed with the cross alley spares, the ball does not over squirt going towards 4-7's and 6-10's. All styles will like this ball. I have not experimented with different surfaces with this ball due to how good the reaction is out of the box with this ball.

Bottom line, Mr. Salivno/Brunswick you have something very special with this ball. Actually has a better look on the lane then Storm's Virtual Gravity. More predictable but just as strong. Brunswick has really done their homework with this ball. This is one of those balls everyone has to try. Looking forward to future CS models.

Thanks for reading my review.
Dwight
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: boney on November 17, 2009, 03:17:07 PM
I'm an average bowler with a 157 avg, I went to the Pro shop in search of a new ball and the Pro shop owner recommend this ball for me. He drill it to have a strong break on the back end. I bought the ball on 11/11/2009 and I bowl with it the next night (11/12/2009) in my league. I bowl a 706 scratch series, with my games being 225, 237, and 244. I love this ball it great now. I never had a ball that do the things it does. I say BUY it.
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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: satchmogiz on November 22, 2009, 08:36:09 PM
Bought this ball 2 weeks ago. Drilled pin above ring finger, mb kicked out about an inch to the right of my thumb. I am a tweener with slow ball speed, averaging 200-210.
  First 2 weeks I tried to play deep and swing the ball, and had limited success,(nothing really bad, just nothing really good either). 6th set with this ball on a synthetic surface, I played this ball a little straighter (feet at 38, putting the ball around 13 at the arrows, and wow!!!! Threw 276,241,267, 784 set.
  This ball has the most drive out of any ball I have ever thrown. Once it hits the dry and turns, it just drives through the pins with little or no deflection at all. I would definitely recommend this ball to anyone who is looking for great carry.
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Rick Langton on November 26, 2009, 04:42:25 PM
Pin: Under middle finger
CG: 1 in from centerline
MB: 1 1/2 in to right of thumb.
X-hole: On VAL 3 1/2 ins down from PAP

Cover: Out of Box.

This ball has a motion that has been missing from brunswick's line. The cover/core allows the ball to push 1 to 2 feet futher than what you would expcet and the ball does not lose recovery at all. The recovery from the cover down the lane and to the right is a great aspect of this ball. Even with such a strong core, stronger layouts will not create a problem.

Strength: Cover, Cover and Cover.

Weakness: If I find one I will let everyone know.

I have used this ball on the PBA's Scorpion pattern on a surface that was harder than pro anvil. I was able to use the ball inside and out side. For me Scorpion can some times be difficult for my style when it comes to down the lane and to the right. This ball allows me a few extra boards to the right and angle error.

On the Kegal short pattern the Boardwalk I have room to the inside, that extra push from the cover/core allows me 4 to 5 board area on this pattern.
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: leftyl on December 07, 2009, 09:38:47 PM
Brunswick is back!

After using my new Python for a couple of months and loving it, I finally got around to drilling up the C-system.

I drilled it 45 X 5 X 30 which put the pin above the ring finger about an inch and the MB about 2" left of my thumb (left handed). Weight hole 1" above my PAP and not into core. Another great piece from Brunswick. I can get in a bit more to the right with my feet and open up my launch angles with this ball as opposed to my Python which prefers a little straighter attack on the lanes. The recovery down lane with the C-system is impressive.

I will post more as I get to roll it on a few different patterns.

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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: baer300 on December 15, 2009, 09:01:16 AM
Well folks, I drilled another one of these. This ball is just outsanding in carrydown. The way this ball goes through the pins is amazing. How many people can say that in 4 months have not left a flat ten with a ball. Well I can. So I drilled this one 50x5 1/2x70.
I drilled this one for fresh patterns and to be a little smoother. This is exactly what I got. I have thrown it on Shark and THS. Even being smoother, it still goes through the pins fantastic. When I see the back ends scorching, I will throw this.
This ball fits great in between the Seige and Wild Thing. For me it is very comparable to the Wild Card but with more pop downlane. If you don't believe me, drill one you won't be disappointed. It is a great ball.
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BRUNSWICK ADVISORY STAFF
VISE REGIONAL STAFF
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Curt_Dupre on December 15, 2009, 08:00:58 PM
Hello everyone I drilled up two of these balls for the transitions for me at Regional tournaments.
Ball one: Drilled 45x5 1/2x25 Pin Up. On our THS this ball is really clean through the fronts and makes a strong move on the back. Of course for me on THS I can throw it on the fresh for all 3 games. This ball works perfect through the carry down stages on the lane. I am serious when I say this, this ball motion is something I have never seen before from a brunswick ball. It never reads the midlane too early. It retains energy like no other. The way the ball goes through the pins is crazy. So far I have already shot 300 with this one.
Ball two: 90x5x55 Pin down. This ball responds to the oil a little bit quicker so I can play deeper with this ball than the pin up one. But for me no only does it respond quicker to the oil it also responds a little quicker to the friction. This ball will be better suited for the fresh on the shorter patterns, and the burn on longer patterns. Brunswick has one of the most complete lines I have ever seen. Go out and get a C System 2.5 YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED. Bowl Brunswick!!!
Curt Dupre IV
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Fitdocsr on December 24, 2009, 01:59:05 AM
Bowler Info:
400 RPM
16.5 MPH at the pins
PAP 4 5/8 x 1/8

Ball: C-System 2.5

Layout:  35° x 4-¼ in x 30°  X-hole is Gradient Line P3

Initial Surface Preparation:  1000 Siaair

Observations:
Easy through the fronts with good mid lane read. Handles carry down like nothing I’ve ever used, nearly eliminating that transition.  You don’t get the over/under you get from many other balls when this ball goes from wet to dry. What you do get is a very forgiving, smooth transition, that carries from almost any angle.

Conclusions:
I didn’t practice with this ball at all before stepping into league and the second game I bowled a 300. Forgiving, smooth and powerful are the words I use to describe this reaction.  This is a major step in technology and I recommend you take a look at what Brunswick is doing!
Video of me rolling this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRoNFcU2YzU

As with any ball, proper matching of the bowler, ball, layout and coverstock are crucial to success. Make sure you find a well educated pro shop technician to drill your next ball and your scores will increase immediately.

*The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Bowling & Billiards Corporation

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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Skip Wilson on January 13, 2010, 11:29:24 AM
Special thanks to Jason for sending this ball to test.  Haven't thrown Brunswick for awhile so I wasn't sure what to expect.  Set it up with a 45x5x25.  Bowled on choppy pattern with medium oil.  Ball was smooth through the front with a controlled backend.  Easy to line up to find the pocket with this ball.  Anxious to try the 3.5 when it is released.
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Mvpbowler on February 10, 2010, 03:53:16 PM
--- Brunswick C System 2.5 ---

As in a couple other of my reviews, I drilled this for some of the tournaments I bowled the last few weeks. Various Patterns used on.

Layout

5 inch pin, MB @ 55 degrees.

First few shots I threw with this ball I was impressed by how it went through the pins and kept everything pretty low. Wasn't over aggressive off the dry, just had a great motion overall. Found myself using this ball some on the fresh and some on the burnt due to it being enough hook overall but not to much to get myself in trouble. Again yet another great product from Brunswick. Keep up the good work guys!!

Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: thebelsch on February 17, 2010, 01:09:53 AM
Ball Speed: 17-18
Rev Rate: 425
Axis Tilt: 13°
Axis Rotation: 45°
Ball Layout: 50x6x65
After watching the video on the C System 2.5, I couldn’t wait to drill the ball.  I was not disappointed at all.  I drilled the ball and threw it that night in league for games 2 and 3.  I shot 257 and 300 with it.  Since then I have thrown a second 300 with it.  The ball gets down the lane very clean and makes a strong turn when it encounters friction.  The highly adjustable CFT coverstock allows this ball to match up on several patterns and bowler styles.  This is a must have ball for any bowler.


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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Bighit900 on April 29, 2010, 09:12:46 PM
I drilled this ball with the pin over the fingers and the mass kicked just enough not to need a hole. I was really looking forward to throwing it  the night it was drilled. When practice started I threw other balls to warm up and then threw my first shot with the box finish and the ball went 60ft which really shocked me, I assumed it threw it bad so I made sure I really took my time on the next shot and got the same result? Confused I went to my bag and grabbed a 2000 pad and hit the cover. My next shot picked up early but still didn't give me the tilt downlane I expected. I left it sit around for about a month and then took the ball with me to nationals. I took this ball out at the journal and it was a totally different ball. This ball outhooked every other ball I tried by an arrow and it served it's purpose at the bowling stadium as well. So I put it to the test at the same bowling center I first threw it in and needless to say you couldn't pry this ball out of my hand now. It's the first ball I grab no matter what I'm about to bowl on. I had people that watched me throw it the first night ask me what I did to get it to hook so much. The ball is very clean through the front but turns left and don't stop off the end of the pattern. I strongly recommend this ball to all bowlers no matter your style. I am a high speed high rev guy but I've recommended this ball to fellow league bowlers that are tweeners and low rev guys and they thank me everytime they see me.
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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: rotofan775 on May 15, 2010, 05:26:13 AM
I was leery at first about buying this ball and the new chemistry friction technology. But after I threw this ball I promptly shut my mouth and have nothing but praise for this ball. I don't care that it was made in mexico, this is a great ball! I had this ball drilled to be a benchmark ball for me, my go to ball if u would. I have started AND ended a series with this ball moving 2 boards left with my feet. That's it. Shot 680 something that night. The ball reads gthe mids great and helps me determine if I need to go up or down in ball choice. Gets amazing and consistent length down lane and seems to ignore carrydown. I tend to play a tighter shot with this ball, but when I need to I can put it out there and open up the lane it doesn't fail me. I got this the same month I got my corner and get much more use outta this c system. Again, I don't care this ball was made in mexico, it is top quality in my book!
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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Geoffrey_Young on June 09, 2010, 01:22:19 AM
When i first heard about this ball I was excited to go drill this. Drilled it stacked pin up over the ring finger. I was extremely impressed how this ball got through the front part of the lane and was a smoother reaction off the dry. I used this ball on a lot of different patterns and really like what I see with it. I see that this ball is very useable after transition. I used this ball on the later shift league at West Acres Bowling center in Wichita, KS and this ball matches up really well to later shift league patterns. When looking for a ball that gets down lane and still needs some backend then  the C system 2.5 is a must.
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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Brandon Riley on June 29, 2010, 08:17:28 PM
Pin 4.5 from PAP (below ring finger), mb at 45 deg
This is one of the strongest pearls that I have ever thrown!  I get decent length through the heads out of the C System 2.5, a very strong midlane and continuation in the backends.  This is a ball which I found to be most effective with a little polish during transition as this ball will still charge through some unexpected carrydown.  Its strength at the breakpoint definitely desires more sideways angles and I have really liked it on the Scorpion pattern, although it has the chops to allow me to move deep and swing it on burnt up longer house patterns.  

My biggest concern with this ball is that it does need sufficient oil in the first half of the lane so that it pushes far enough before it makes its strong move to the left.  I enjoy having this ball in my arsenal - its strong read of the midlane is great midblock as you migrate towards the centre of the lane.  I find that with this ball I require larger moves to the left than usual but by the same token it allows me to open up the lane more than any of my other equipment.
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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: mdevore19 on August 30, 2010, 03:35:50 PM
This ball is drilled RICO which for me puts the pin 5 and 1/4 inches from pap.  Surface at 2000 abralon.  The OOB surface just did not give me a reaction i wanted to see on my house pattern.  2000 abralon really made this ball come alive.  It takes to surface changes really well.  I added polish to it to play cheetah, and then took it back down to 2000 for viper.  I like to play a little swing without getting too deep inside and this ball fits right where i want it to.  It does overlap my absolute inferno also drilled rico.  I have found out that i cannot get real deep inside which is probably more of the drilling than the ball as the it will just not make a strong enough move to turn and hit the pocket.  Overall I think its a great product from Brunswick and I can't wait to get my hands on the 3.5 and 4.5 and another 2.5 with the pin up to make that corner.
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Brunswick_fan_BrandonH on October 07, 2010, 01:14:19 PM
Right Handed, Cranker style, I usually play between 3rd and 4th arrows, 16 mph speed
Surface - 500 grit Micropad, then 1000 grit Micropad, then 4000 grit Micropad
My PAP is 5 3/8" over and 7/8" up Dual Angle Drilling Layout - 45 Deg x 5" x 70 Deg which puts the pin below my ring finger and no weight hole

I wanted a ball that would start up sooner on heavier oil shots and continue through the pins.  What I got was a ball that has smooth arc and doesn't overreact when reaching the friction.  This ball clears the heads and gets into a roll nicely.  The CFT 2.5 coverstock is just strong enough to grab at the friction point and continue through the pins.  I am very pleased with this ball and is a great addition to the Brunswick line.  I have used this ball on multiple lane surfaces and it is a great reacting ball.
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Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: axeweldr on November 13, 2010, 12:09:06 PM
Bowler's Info:
Righty, cranker, inverted track
Revs about 400
MPH is about 18-19
PAP 4 1/2 to the right and 1/2 down

Layout info:
Pin under bridge, cg is kicked right down by the thumb, mass bass is 55 degrees.  No hole.

For me this really starting to be my benchmark ball.  Typically pearls don't give me a really good read, due to my speed.  What I am seeing from this ball, is good length, not having to force it.  Smooth mid-lane movement, and continuation through the pins, with a solid hit.  To me this ball does exactly what you put into it.  Once again this is what a benchmark ball does.  Gives you multiple looks on a variety of shots.  

White pattern- The beginning of our season we started, this pattern was very tight, I am suspecting that they cut back on the length of it in recent weeks.  Seems to be opening up a lot sooner then it had been, being a little more forgiving.  As of late this ball started to shine due to the shorter length they have been using.  Typically I have been playing 15 to 5, and been able to sit almost in the same spot all night.  I have been lucky due to this ball, being inside of the straight players, and outside of the power guys.  So typically my shot holds up longer then most.  

I am surprised that more people haven't used this ball.  From the ones I have seen out there, they roll really well and perform excellent.  Brunswick has really started to get there act straight.  They really never matched up too well with my game in the past but this is changing.   Before I knew it Brunswick as taken over my bags.  I certainly hope that they keep things up, because they are making some great pieces.  

Also like to thank Brunswick for my last 300(11-12-10) Just wish I was smart enough to see that the transition was creeping up on me, so I could have gotten the 800.  Thank you Big B, and Brusnick for your input and equipment.  


 
 
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Edited on 1/15/2011 at 12:50 PM
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: titletowncards on December 15, 2010, 04:37:57 PM
Surface: 500 micropad, then 4000 micro pad
Layout:
--------p
---------O-O

--------cg

-------mb-O

This is my first Brunswick ball since the BVP Punisher, so it's been a while.

Positives: Very strong movement off the backend, stronger than I thought overall, hitting power and continuation through the pins is great, decent pin action.  

Negatives: Struggles with carrydown, but it is a pearl, can be a little inconsistant off the spot.

Overall: A nice piece that fits in my arsenal very well, honestly it's not the first ball out of my bag, but I'm sure glad I have it, because when the conditions are right and it's called upon, it performs well.
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Current arsenal:
Storm Hy-Road
Motiv Cruel C-51
Roto-Grip Mutant Cell
Storm Rapid Fire Pearl
Storm Eraser PBT
Brunswick C-System 2.5
Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: cdvon on February 02, 2011, 08:39:50 AM
Drill:

Pin placed on the cebnterline above the fingers. MB 2" right of the centerline. Cover left OOB.

 

Bowler:

Mdedium High rev rate. 15-16 MPH

 

Condition:

House shot

 

This ball was clean through the heads with great mid lane and back end reaction. Not as skid flippy as most balls in its hook range with great drive through the pins. First four shots with this ball I almost left 3 - 7 9 splits. No deflection in the pin deck. Shot 796 with a 271 in the first week of having this ball. (271 i dropped it in the 6th frame and took out the 10 pin)


Title: Re: C-(System) 2.5 Reactive
Post by: Ptownbowler1986 on October 20, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
I have owned my c-system for about 2 years now and I am not disappointed by it. I have a simple stacked leverage drill on it with the box surface for your typical house shot. Has a weight hole on the right on my VAL. I have also used it on some sport conditions like atlanta and seoul, and also on london. Even though this ball looks like a pearl, it doesn't act like one. It makes a strong controlled move off the spot but not overly jumpy, which I like in a ball. Makes a great benchmark ball and the first out of my bag on league nights. Definitely a great technology designed by Carmen Salvino and brunswick. Thanks for reading, my specs are in my profile

 Formerly rotofan775.