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Reviews => Brunswick => Topic started by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
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The Danger Zone Pro-HP Hook is the most aggressive ball in the Zone Pro line, with extra hook, extra power and an even arc right out of the box. It is similar to the Zone Pro Azure in overall strength but cleaner through the front. The ball is designed for the high-performance stroker who needs a powerful hook and is best on medium to oily lanes, or where more mid-lane arc is needed. A new proactive manufacturing process creates the strong hooking pattern of a dull ball, but with a cleaner front end than prior dull proactive materials. The specifications are: Color: Black; Coverstock: Proactive MTX-1 Urethane; Surface Factory Finish: Dull Micro-replication abrasive; Available Weights: 10-16 (including 11 ½); Part Number: 60-102987; Hook Potential: 22-13; Typical Length: 3; Typical Backend: 11; RG Maximum: 2.620; RG Minimum: 2.560; RG Differential: 0.060; Average RG: 5.4; Track Flare Potential: 10.
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After the Extreme I got the HPH and drilled it 10:30 rev leverage and I am really impressed with re-action I got with this ball.It hooks through heavy oil and still finishes with power on the back end.I have not been a big fan of brunswick balls ,but this is the ball for heavy oil I have been looked for.The HPH hooks about 7 more boards than the Extreme with a stronger back end.
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THIS BALL JUST FLAT HOOKS FROM THE TIME IT TOUCHES DOWN TILL IT GOES THRU THE PIN DECK. NO OIL UP FRONT BALL STAYS IN THE BAG, DON'T HAVE MUCH SPEED CONSIDER ANOTHER BALL. HAVE DRILLED 2 BOTH 12:00 75 DEGREE WITH THE PIN ABOUT 4 INCH FROM THE PAP ONE PLAYER HIGH SPEED HIGH REVS THE OTHER HIGH SPEED 15 DEG AXIS ROTATION, MED REVS, BOTH ARE NOW IN LOVE. BOOMING BACKEND. FIRST GAMES FOR BOTH WERE 255 AND 268 WITH SETS OF 688 AND 717.
BALL IS NOT FOR ALL PEOPLE AND FOR ONLY THE BETTER OIL CONDITIONS
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What would you say about a twenty-one-pin-increase in average over a three-week period? Well, praise be to Brunswick and the Danger Zone Pro HPH! This is the best Zone Pro to date with three Ps: power, precision, and (believe it or not) predictability. Being a semi-cranker, I had my HPH drilled with the pin @ 1:00 with a trace of positive weight. It has the high revolutions of past Zone bowling balls with excellent backend reaction, even with carrydown. This heavy to medium-oil ball is a perfect "10"!
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Drilled one of these for myself given that I have higher ball speed. Just one look at the coverstock convinced me that I would not have to do anything too drastic with the set up. This one had a 1 1/2" pin which I drilled just under the ring finger with the CG at grip centre. All I can say is WOW!!! and am I glad I didn't load it up. Certainly it needs barrel loads of head oil and/or a weak hand to get the most out of it. I also loaded one up for our World Cup rep, Colin Hunt who said it gave him a solid controllable reaction on the heavier pattern he found at Sam's Town and was the only ball that scored for him. Amanda Bradley won the Women's World Cup using one. Worth the higher price you'll pay for one.
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This ball is the biggest piece of dog poop i have ever had...I am borderline power stroker and this is one of the owrst balls i have ever had....I got it for oil and drilled it using the second drill pattern that came with the ball..label leverage...If there isnt oil it rolls out and wobbels and if it hits the headpins it hits like a wet towel.....Maybe its the way its drilled but it spend more time in my bag than it does out...
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This ball has been our #1 seller in our shops and thanks to Bill Wasserberger and Tom Lehmkuhl from Brunswick, it is one of my favorites for oily lanes. The HPH is a Dull Black proactive, sanded at the 35 microns sanding pad which Brunswick has designed to work with their proactive coverstocks. If you are looking for a ball to start up soon and continue on the backends, consider this a choice. If the heads dry up so will this balls reaction. It is intended for oily lanes with moderate carry down. I have it has my biggest hooking ball in my collection. Also, if you Bowlers that are fustrated with the unpredictability of most reactives/proactives, and are bent on buying a Burgundy hammer for it's control, consider this proactive your only choice. This ball will not only outhook and outbackend the Burgundy, but will also be very controllable as well. Continued success with your Bowling endeavors and Thank You for reading this review, Dwight.
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The Danger Zone-Pro HPH is a ball I still haven't totally made up my mind about. It is great in ball heavy oil, but I still feel the Zone-Pro Azure and Jade Quantum are better in their handling of oil when compared to the HPH. The HPH does get through the heads a bit better, and does have more backends, but the problem I have noticed with this ball is that when it hits dry too early it hits like a marshmellow. Both the Jade Quantum and Azure Zone-Pro could still make it through that dry and still hit better than the HPH. Also, the Jade and Azure outhook the HPH, but this does make sense since both are ETX coverstocks. This is one reason I have taken so long to post a review of it because I still feel that the original ProActive coverstocks that first came out were superior to this HPH on heavy oil. The Teal Zone-Pro (for crankers and strong tweeners), the Azure-Zone-Pro, and the Jade Quantum are much better at handling a flood than the HPH, and their coverstocks hold up longer and better than the HPH as well. Their lifespan seems to last longer than the MTX-1 coverstock on the HPH. Now I may change my mind with time on the HPH, and I have shot well with it when I've used it on the right condition, but this ball is by far Brunswick's most condition specific ball they have had in their selection. I am happy though others have enjoyed it and had alot of success with it! Continued good luck!
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I have had my HPH for about a year and a half. It is drilled with the pin under ring finger and i'm not sure about pap. It has 3 oz. top weight. This was too much ball for me when I first got it, as I had only been bowling for a few months when I bought it. I have since learned to control this ball better. My usual line is to stand on 20 and aim for 2nd arrow. This ball hits hard and have carried many poor shots due to the hitting ability of the HPH. It has been resurfaced once with the trizact system, to an out of the box condition. I soak this ball twice a month and clean it after every use with 409 and alcohol. My league is on medium to dry synthetic lanes covered with guardian. I really like this ball and while it may not be the best ball for a rookie, once you learn to control the hook, it will do a great job for you.
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Ok I've talked to most of the people around where live who have thrown this ball and they have all said the same thing. It stinks. If any of you pro shop guys have this ball, throw it in the trash right now. Get it as far away from your proshop as possible. It's a worthless piece of Brunswick junk. Oh yes and one more thing. Jimmy, bottom line is... your annoying. People do not need reminders about this ball every week. If they want to post a review, I'm sure they can do it without them telling you. So summing this review up is simple, if you see this ball anywhere, take it and donate it to a junk yard or something. It will have a nice home there.
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Jim Andrews you're going to like this!
I have liked Brunswick Particles on heavy oil!
The Azure, the Jade Quantum, all seem to have the ability to slow the ball down on the soup so it can slow down and make a break to the pocket. Otherwise I find on soup that with most of my reactives my ball speed is 2 to 3 mph faster than my normal ball speed.
I've also like the Pro Zone Violet on medium, it is smooth with plenty of backend. This ball is exactly the same hook pattern as the Pro Zone Violet but earlier on the soup with a little more ability to have a gentle swing. PS drilled 4 X 4. Lots of backend on this ball for a particle!
To put it all in perspective this ball starts just a fraction later than the azure and seems to have quite a bit more backend. Reminds me of how the Jade Quantum would have looked if I had it drilled stacked instead of 4 X 2.
Another comparison probably the only two balls that move earlier are the Brunswick Azure and the AMF Evolution Tour. Right now I like the move and pattern of this ball better than my X-it drilled very similarly.
Final, if you want a ball that slows down things on heavy soup this is a great one. One of the bigger backend heavy load particles I've tried. Put it down as the lanes transition either to a lighter load particle or a reactive.
Also these balls seem to be very durable especially if treated with Trizact.
Regards,
Luckylefty
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I've had this ball for about 2 years now and it has served me well. I got a great deal on it because it was a used ball and it maybe had only 10 or so games on it. I had it plugged by my pro shop and applied 3-3/8" x 3-3/8" with a 1" hole beyond PAP (Brunswick's Drill Pattern #1).
I'm basically a Down and In player with medium revs and I occasionally play the tweener line too.
It's a great ball for heavy oil conditions. Gets down the lane quite nicely and powers it's way into the pocket and blows the rack out.
I've properly maintained this ball (i.e., removed the oil periodically, and use Neotac Hook-It) since I've got it and it still hasn't lost anything.
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I only use this ball on flooded lanes. It will hook a ton until the coverstock wears down. It usually does this at about 35 - 40 games and i have to get it resurfaced. I use hook-it on it and it still absorbs oil like a vacuum. I have had this ball so worn down it is shinier than the HPD. I have had it for about 2 years and will not replace it for a while. IT is also great for drying up your ball path, I can usually only keep my same line for about 1.5 games then i have to switch. Soon as the coverstock is polished looking i can kiss the reaction goodbye. All it does is look good when it is polished looking, barely any hook. i would say a 7 out of 10. A high maintanence ball.
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I changed my mind a little with this ball. I used to hate it until i found a cleaner that put some life back in it. I used an ebonite particle energizer(cleaner) and to my amazement it actually worked. Finally i can use it again on med oil. All in all i would not recomend this ball to anyone. Its a very high maintenence ball. There are plenty out their which are much better.
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i drilled this ball with the pin above the bridge and this ball is great it has tons of powerit rolls very early to combat extremely wet lanes. most people dont understand this ball is so aggressive that if you throw it on lanes that are to dry it will roll out and lose all hook and power on that shot. throw this on very heavy oil and you will be surprised and satisfied.
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Well first off, to understand my review, look at my profile. I recieved my HPH from a guy that couldn't get it to do anything. I went ahead and baked it and resurfaced it to a 600-grit wet-sanding, followed up with hook-it. WOW! this ball can really cover some distance. now I usually roll a down & in shot, but with the HPH I can cover over half the lane with ease. My go to shot (with a 1996 Pacific Storm)is line up around the second dot from the left, and roll it out to about the 5 board or so...and around 45 feet, let the ball flip and come back to the pocket. But when I use the HPH, I can easily line up 1 dot to the right of center arrow and still lay it out around the 4-6 board before this ball comes flying back into the pocket. I've never had a problem with a ball hooking too much on heavy oil till now. And when I wanna be ballsy, I can sand it to 1500, polish it with control it, and still run dry lanes with this ball with the same pocket-slamming action that you get with out-of-box coverstock! All-in-all I would give this ball a 9 out of 10, as it dies very quickly and needs oil extracted out of it every few months or so. Very high upkeep for this ball!
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YES, it IS possible to shoot this good with a back-up shot!!! 
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Bought this ball after reading reviews that weren't too good for it hoping I could be lucky and get it to work. I went to my local pro shop and found it used for $60. Got it fingertip drilled with not a real strange drilling pattern. First game wasn't too great with it (177). But after using it for about a month, I got pretty comfortable with it. I took it to my league and rolled my highest game ever 287. In my opinion, the best lane conditions are medium-heavy to light oil. Has a ton of backend if the outside boards are lighter oiled than the middle of the lane. I wouldn't recommend this ball on dry lanes it will just drive way too hard and you will leave lots of splits and 4 pins. One cleaner that does wonders for this ball is the Power House Energizer Cleaner. Adds about 5 boards of length to the ball and gives it a great snap on the backend.
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I took a 7 year leave of abscence from the game....and when I came back...did I get a rude awakening.
I was using all Brunswick equipment...Rhino Pros...and when I left they were plenty. However apon my return they did nothing; dead straight. So I went and got all new stuff.
Stuck with Brunswick and the HPH is the first new ball I got. It's not drilled to be real aggressive and it rolls early, but if you get it on the right condition it's an ok ball. With the way it's drilled(at least for me) on heavy oil and it need to be worked to finish....
I have also recently polished it....works much better on the backend. Still rolls real early and is better when the heads are fresh...and all in all it's still a good ball.
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ok before this i hated zones , everyone had one just made me sick .until i won it in a raffle at state. for 5 bucks i though what the hell might as well . got it drilled for a full roller . i went from 170's too 200's like that . so much control an consistansy . this ball is definatly a keeper . so if your a full roller like me this is the ball for you . i threw my high game 299 this year with it !!!
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Bought this ball for 30 bucks got it drilled with finger wioeght, it is the beast ball in heavier oil conditions. It comes way back to the pocket for an old ball, don't underestimate it, I can shoot ten ten backend with this ball.
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NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE SAY
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NOTHIN HITS LIKE A ZONE
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me again!!! this ball is awsome i finally rolled a 300 and i got a 721series and if any one knows where i can get one of these new in box that would be sweet . the one i have hasnt died its just the bowling alley i bowl at likes to chew up the balls ....
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i got one in my bushes!!
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I've had this ball for about 5 or 6 years & it still works like a charm. Great ball.
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Thank you, TS7299