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Title: Eliminator
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Specifications are as follows:


Coverstock: Low-Load Proactive /Particle

Color: Royal Blue

Hardness: 77-79

Factory Finish: Cerium Oxide Trizact

Core Dynamics:

   
Performance:

   
Available Weights: 12-16 Pounds



View the official Spec sheet including Drill Instructions
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: UCFKnight300 on December 03, 2002, 10:47:22 PM
Hello eveyone.  I got my eliminator about 2 weeks ago and I have been very impressed.  I am a fairly high rev player and I was looking for something that wouldn't skid snap like everything else.  that's what I got.  This ball has the smoothest arc, very predictable.  I bowled with it on the Cream of the Crop shot and I was able to keep my line most of the day while everyone else kept getting deeper.  I have it drilled with  the cg under the ring finger about 2 inches and the pin is kicked out to the right about 2 inches.  Since the low particle eliminates the hook set, the ball has plenty of energy to crush the hole.  Great ball Brunswick.
Mike Larsen
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: Bob Hanson on December 06, 2002, 10:53:28 AM
Brunswick took the popular Fuze core and tweaked the rg down to a low 2.49, then matched up a low load particle cover with a cerium oxide finish on the Eliminator.  The result for me is a highly polished Detonator. The Eliminator rolls heavy through the midlane with a very angular move much like the Detonator but with more length.  My guess is this may be too much of a niche ball for many people, but that doesn't mean it isn't a good one.  There are definitely some places you can use the Eliminator where you can't use the Detonator, but there is a lot of overlap.  For people who like to square up a little the Eliminator lets you point into the oil with excellent hitting power.  For people who like the Detonator, but just can't quite find enough oil to use it the Eliminator would be a great choice.  I still wouldn't call it a dry or even a medium oil ball, but it will give some length where the Detonator just burns too early.  On the downside it will still burn early, like the Detonator if you send too wide into the dry without plenty of revs.  

All in all a real good ball, but if you own a Detonator it will leave you wondering if you couldn't have gotten a similar reaction with a cerium oxide finish on it.
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: Dwight Albrecht on December 06, 2002, 11:06:29 PM
Brunswick Fuze Eliminator Review:

Brunswick’s new Particle ball is the missing void that has been present in Brunswick’s line and other ball manufactures lines of balls for some time. This light load blue particle/proactive ball is sanded from the factory at a Cerium-Oxide Pad and then lightly polished. The Weight Block is the same shape as the Igniter core with the densities changed to make the ball roll sooner or Rev quicker. Proper ball reaction is ALWAYS the marriage of the cover stock and the weight block and this Brunswick Ball does this extraordinary well. I drilled my Eliminator with the pin 3 3/8 X P.A.P. and Put the CG to the right of my grip. Weight hole on the Vertical Axis line.

The lane condition I tested the Ball on was at two different centers. The 1st center is wood lanes with medium oil and a touch of carry down. Here the Eliminator worked perfectly and gave me the best reaction from any other ball I tried. Any of my other equipment which included the Freak, which hooked early with no backend, the Storm Trauma Recovery, which skidded forever with no back end to My Brunswick Purple Monster polished which was clean through the front and had moderate backend, couldn’t give me the proper reaction that the Eliminator did. The Eliminator was much cleaner through the fronts and much harder of a turn on the back ends. This lane condition was very difficult and with this ball it allowed me to have some miss area. On the HPL Panel lane center the ball did not over react when it hit the dry and was very clean and smooth when it hit the oil, with out the over skid of most reactives.

Most Bowlers will find this ball very adaptable to most conditions with feet and lane adjustments. This is one of those everybody balls and would be a great 1st ball out of the bag to test the waters so to speak. Stroker’s to Cranker’s will like this ball with proper pin and CG layouts. In closing the Eliminator is a cross over particle that kind of reacts like a Reactive but with the predictability of a particle ball with strong backend makes this ball definitely one of it’s own class.

Thanks for reading my review.
Dwight
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: strikealot on December 08, 2002, 09:26:55 PM
specs
4 pin
2.7 oz top
high revs with 16-17 mph ball speed

1st brunswick ball ive thrown in several years, but am very happy with ball.
drilled ball with my favorite drill, draw a line between the pin and the cg and that is my grip line. pin is above my fingers a little more than 5 inch. from my pap. on a typical house shot with synthetic lanes the ball was fantastic. cleared the heads great and made strong move to pocket, didnt really snap but rolled under controll. i shot 249-275-208 for 732, not bad for first set. last game needed to move in deeper to carry, ball needs oil. started off night standing on 30 and hitting about 20 at arrows, didnt have to move untill last game. would highly recommend this ball. very readable ball.
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: john_kleist on December 16, 2002, 06:51:00 PM
This ball is a monster.  We drilled this ball up with the pin in the middle and below my fingers and the CG very close to my thumb.  I would say it is about a 5X5 with the pin below the fingers.  I have found this ball to outhook anything I have ever thrown.  That is both a good and a bad thing.  It is the most predictible hook I have ever seen.  I have zero problems with an over/under reaction with this ball.  It hits like a Mac truck.  I shined it up just a tad after using it for 2 weeks and I like it even more.  I leave far fewer 10 pins than usual when using this ball.  The only problem is that it needs some oil.  But when there is oil on the lane this is the first ball that I will be using.  A great compliment to the Igniter for Medium Lanes and a ScreamR for Dry.  I think this is going to be a great tournament ball because it is so incredibly predictible.   I have already won more than what I paid for back using the ball in 2 1/2 weeks so it can't be all that bad  

Overall Review:  Great Ball For Oilier House Conditions and A SUPERB Tournament Ball

8.5 Out Of 10

I don't care what any of you say Brunswick is putting out just as good if not better equipment than any other ball company out there.  Don't be scared to try Brunswick out I am sure you will love them.
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: YeahHossNV on December 31, 2002, 08:34:29 PM
   This ball has a pin out 2-3. I drilled it with a high track rev leverage layout with a weight hole.   First off this is an absolutely amazing bowling ball. This is my new favorite ball. The cover/core combination is perfect. The Igniter core is modified by raising the density which makes the ball more center heavy which in turn makes the ball rev up early and have and earlier roll with more control. The cover is a low load Proactive particle coverstock which makes the act more like an aggressive reactive that is less susceptible to over/under reactions. The combination of the two make the ball rev up early, have great midlane recovery and a strong backend. With the factory cerium oxide Trizact  finish this ball can handle almost any condition except for heavy oil. The ball has great hit and carry. I shot my highest series with this ball. When I can’t find a strike line on a condition I go to this ball. There is virtually no line you can’t play with this ball. You can swing it, play straight up, and point all with great results. I recommend this ball to anybody.
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: jwsmith01 on January 07, 2003, 10:21:58 PM
Likes: Powerful, Crushing Pin Action, Predictability, Consistency the list goes on and on....
Dislikes: I haven't found one yet....probably dry heads

16 pounds
Top Weight: 3.5
Pin out: 3-4 inches
Factory Surface


The first ball out of my bag, and this will probably be the only ball you need to have in your hand. I have mine drilled up 4 1/2 strong with the pin next to my ring finger and the cg below my centerline. This puts the weight hole below my axis, left it too 3/4oz positive. I bowled a tournament this past weekend and this was the only ball I threw. I only had to move a total of five boards the entire day. The Eliminator floats though the heads with ease, considering it's a particle ball. It read the midlanes, but didn't skid too far or hook up too soon. The times that I did throw it left of my target it rolled up strong and left nothing in its path. Then the times that I tugged it inside of my mark, it retained its engery and stood up just in time to crush the hole. That is another thing that is just amazing about this ball, the pin action. The Eliminator destroys anything and everything on the pin deck. Weather you hit light of heavy on the head pin, everything is eliminated. It is not the strongest ball in my bag, the Swamp Monster still holds that title, but the Eliminator is and will be for awhile the first ball out of my bag. Very controlable and predictable and plenty strong enough for typical house and tournament conditions. I am looking forward to drilling up another one soon. Thank you Brunswick for producing excellent equpiment again..... Good Luck and Bowling!




 
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: BowlersAidProShop-Randy on January 10, 2003, 12:21:45 AM
Drilling - 4.5 by 3.5
Surface left box condition

I must say that I am pleasantly pleased at the roll I'm getting out of this ball.  It doesn't clear the heads quite like I thought it might (hey it's Brunswick, what did I expect?), but nevertheless it is still a definite go to ball in the presence of long oil with clean backends.  It reads the midlane and the breakpoint about as well as any ball I have seen.  It's move at the breakpoint is slightly more angular than I envisioned, but controllable.

This is a definite ball to consider for anyone who is bowling on a longer house pattern with some descent backend.  It won't cut through carrydown but it will sure read the lane in a hurry once it gets off the oil.

Overall a very nice selection by Brunswick.

Randy Russell
Bowler's Aid Pro Shop
Lawrenceville, GA
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: smaglik on January 19, 2003, 04:58:32 PM


This ball was drilled with a pin up / hole down configuration.  Surface was box.

This ball was punched up for the 1st round of match play at the US amateur out at the stadium in Reno.  The pattern was a sport condition to 44 feet.  Immediately upon throwing the ball, it gave recovery that other similar equipment did not.  On the fresh condition, the ball grabbed enough in the midlane to provide a predictible roll.  Once a track was broken in several games in, the reaction got better.  On the broken down track, the ball would check up early, but still retain enough energy to toss the pins around.  I shot 300 the 7th game of the event with this ball.  This ball reads the mids extremely well and gets through the heads with ease, especially for a proactive.

On a long house pattern, the ball also performs well.  For a long pattern, this ball is an extremely good investment, sport or no sport.

Ed Smaglik
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: mikecbowlz on February 24, 2003, 08:48:52 AM
Test Ball: 15 lb., pin 3-1/4", drilled with pin 4-1/2" from PAP; CG kicked right, approx. 1/2 oz. positive side weight, no X-hole.
BOWLER: RH, 'rotationally-challenged', medium ball-speed.


I have awaited this low-load particle entry for a long time, since most high-load particle balls tend to vacuum "house" conditions into unplayability within a game or so, frying all the conditioner off the heads and making midlanes spotty and unpredictable. The moderate-flaring layout selected was intended as either a beginning ball for fresh 'house' conditions, or a 'go-to' ball for Sport or longer house patterns. It succeeded, but with cautions.

On a standard house oil pattern, this ball, despite the low particle load, is still a VERY STRONG ball. A 'low-load' particle coverstock this may be, but the particles they did put in there, spent a month doing pushups before being blended into this cover. The ball makes a VERY decisive move down-lane, but doesn't overreact. However, on the shorter house patterns, it seems to be 'too much gun': the breakpoint tends to be VERY early on these conditions. It needs head oil, and seems to require a fair amount of midlane oil, as well. When it sees dry wood, it MOVES. The upside of this is, on a Sport or longer oil pattern, the ball will play all day and all night. It saves energy and holds down its lane movement to a degree unexpected for a higher-differential ball; it may move early on shorter oil, but it doesn't seem to want to over-react anywhere. The real thing to watch is the break-point; the break itself won't give you any surprises. If the ball breaks too early, either move left into a lot more oil or put it away til later; if it gets down-lane, smile and prepare to enjoy yourself.

And the HIT!! Lord, does this ball hit and carry. As noted, it seems to save up energy and not waste anything on big, sweeping moves on the lane. The reaction is a strong, continuous arc, very controllable. Low-pocket hits are blown away completely, and flush hits have no chance either. High-flush, it's still possible to get into trouble, since the finish is so strong.

OVERALL: 8.5 out of 10, only due to early break on 'house' conditions. On Sport, it's a 9.999.

MCC
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: joemonty on March 03, 2003, 09:21:56 AM
Ok, preface - I started bowling 7 months ago after an 18 year hiatus from a 165 max, so I'm no Mark Roth, but... I'm viciously competitive and the bug has hit. After staggering to a 167 in 5 months with a rotator cuff injury, 9 weeks after surgery I finally felt well enough to get serious. First drill was a Black Hammer 2001. Then I bought an excellent RG Fuel (see review). Still not satisfied with my league medium to heavy conditions, I picked up an Eliminator. I do not believe the pins will ever be the same in my house!

Drilled it to roll mid and snap hard (over right of ring, CG right) this ball is my first 15# (my recovering shoulder demanded a weight reduction, kinda like Pamela Anderson's chest!). I'm a straight up stroker, med revs, and down anywhere from the 5 to the 10, this ball rips to the pocket and doesn't stop until it blows a hole out of the pit wall! it took me a while to figure it out (needs some speed with the drill pattern, even in mid-oil), but from 167,167,167 I went to 136?, 167, 235 (I think I got it now). Watch for an update on this ball from me. A 300 is coming.

Definitely a Brunswick fan. No nonsense, rip the Sh_t out of the pins ball. By the way - I bought this based on the reviews here, sounded like what I needed - THANKS!
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: joemonty on March 03, 2003, 03:07:56 PM
Quick update - 212, 205, 189 and 223, 268, 203. 268 was a ringing 10 and a completely bewildered 5.

The ball likes speed! Again, I've NEVER seen a ball destroy the pins like this one does.
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: joemonty on March 03, 2003, 03:11:03 PM
BTW - and I'm sorry for the triple threat here, but the pin is drilled UNDER and right of ring.
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: pba2hammer on March 12, 2003, 01:03:28 AM
I really love this ball.  I got it when i went back to 14lbs and what a great ball.  Ball is 14lbs and the ball is drilled with the pin under the finger.  NOt sure where the cg or mass bias is sorry.  I went to Texas Station today and practiced 4 games with it and shot a 191, 190, 162, and a 225 with it all throwing right at 12 board.  These lanes are known for being wet/dry condition.  Oil in the inside and dry on the outside.  I was able to just swing the ball from 12 board out to like 8 or 7 board.  Even if i missed too far right it'd still catch the dry and come back to the pocket.  I tugged it a couple of times and missed my mark severly to the left hitting like board 14 and the Eliminator did not hook nor anything.  Just stayed in a perfect straight line for the pins giving me a strike.  I really love this ball.  Might go get another one and have it drilled a different way.

Thanks Brunswick for this terrific bowling ball

Peter Kramer
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: Chris Postel on April 17, 2003, 11:30:56 AM
Have this ball drilled 6x3 (pin in middle finger) with a weight hole.

This ball is treat because it doesn't over jump at all.  The CG leverage layout is sweet for my type of game now that I've changed my hand span and pitches.  Doesn't turn the corner hard, but just rolls hard from the midlane and keeps pins low.  

This ball is awesome for synthetics from my experience.


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That Is All,
Chris P
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: CRSmith on June 28, 2003, 01:48:00 AM
I got my Eliminator in a tournament at my local house near the end of this past season. The pin is 3-4 out and drilled leverage. I thought with  this being a new particle ball, it was going to hook off the lanes. Nope. It was barely stronger than my resin balls. My house puts down a fair amount of oil, and with my speed and less than fresh backends, I found I was having a hard time getting the ball to turn. I HATE dull balls, but reluctantly took the shine off the ball and gave it a 600 matte finish. Big difference. Even dulled, the Eliminator gets good length. It isn't as sensitive to over/under and its carry is exceptional. I've had a couple of high load particle balls, and I just don't like their reaction. For me, the Eliminator has more of a resin look to it. I finally found a particle ball that I like.
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: UNObowler01 on November 06, 2003, 03:00:31 PM
16.04lb., pin out 3", 2.75 top.

Pin low, 4" x 4 1/2"

Used on 42ft. house cond. wood, 35ft. PBA Pattern E wood, slicker tournament condtion (no idea of actual pattern, had to be 40 ft. or better, sythetics).

One of Brunswick's best, I'd have to say.  The low-load particle shell helps increase traction in the mid-lane, but still saves energy enough to pop on the backend.  Scuffed the surface with a grey scotch-brite to increase traction in oil, and it works great.  One of few early-rolling balls the still HITs.  Very smooth around the corner with an awesome power roll on the backend.  My favorite ball when it gets slicker.  

This ball will cut through and handle all but the very slickest heavier conditions.  Definitely one you want to have in the bag when you need a particle ball.  Not many particle balls hit like this ball does.
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UNOmaha Mavericks Bowling
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Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: Mike Whitacre on November 13, 2003, 12:37:43 PM
This was drilled with pin beside ring finger CG Kicked out 2”. I have keep this in box finish. I really like this ball a lot. Usually  not the first ball out of the bag, but it is great with carry down or when my inferno is leaving 10 pins. If you got enough head oil this ball is a great ball. I love this ball. It hits hard, good carry. I don’t go anywhere without it. It will read the lane early if the heads go. The back end is very angular with great driving finish.
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: SAR1stuNNa1 on November 16, 2003, 09:53:14 PM
This is one of Brunswick's best balls. It does exactly what it is intended to do
"eliminate" the over/under. This ball always rolls the same. I had mine for about
a year now and it still destroys the pins. I have the pin above the ring finger
and the cg just about in the center of my palm. This balls is great, great job
Brunswick.

-Shawn Ryan-
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: xricLV on March 05, 2004, 02:06:14 PM
Great ball
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: Sniper206 on March 25, 2004, 08:30:57 PM

 Have had one of these for quite a while. Punched this one up Pin over ring, cg out 2 inches with an x-hole. For a light load, this thing hooks and does it in an even manner. I haven't found anything besides short oil that this doesn't work on. It's great on longer patterns, even better on the mediums. Got rid of the polished one, now I have the dull one and the reaction is about the same, just about a 4 ft. earlier start with the dull finish. Personally, I think this is still the 2nd best fuze behind te Igniter. All in all, a very versatile ball.

Hook- 8.5

Control- 9

versatility- 9

Eliminator gets a 9

thanks for reading
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: Qballtch on April 17, 2004, 05:56:29 PM
I just bought a brand new Brunswick Fuze Eliminator. Kept original cover, no shinning nor dulling. WOW! i think i am in love with this ball. About me, I am 23 and haven't bowled in a while and within the last few months i picked up bowling again. Found out that my Bruwick Axis is just a cheap plastic ball and i needed something much better. Got the Eliminator for a deal for $170 with drilling and had oval inserts put in too, might change it to flat but not sure yet. I am using the finger tip style grip. I just bowled a 172, 176 and 154 for a 502 series. Scores could have been better, especially sice i blew a clean game, just need to work on using my Axis as a spare ball now. I am very happy with the snap hook it has and sometimes i was affraid it was going in the gutter but ended snapping back in and giving me great results. I am wondering what are others oppinions about this ball and such. Also any suggestions you have for me. Also just with the axis i was averaging in the high 160's to low 170's, so i expect VERY good things now since i have "hopefully" the right equipment for me. I plan to join a summer league to get me ready for this fall and to get me into a rythem and such.
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: Invertedsdfg 1 on July 13, 2004, 12:57:29 AM
No one's posted a review on this ball for a while. To me, this is one of the MOST underrated bowling balls out on the market today. You can pick one of these up on line fairly cheap. Buy one and you won't be sorry. This is my first ball out of the bag and usually ends up being the only ball I bowl with all day.
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Lane Conditions: Medium-Heavy Oil
Typical Conditions: Tournament Shot
Type of Lane: All Synthetic
What part of the lane did you play? Second Arrow
Did the ball track out? Normal
Weight of bowling ball: 16
Surface of bowling ball: Scotch Brite
What grit was the surface of the ball? Grey Scotch Brite
Likes: Just about everything
Dislikes: Snoop dog

Went to the local Sunday morning tournament at a local house. Oil pattern was "A" for the shot on synthetic lanes and a fairly healthy dose of oil. I was standing out on 25 using the fifteen board as a target and swinging out to about the ten board. I'm more of a cranker than a stroker without the big backswing, but still use plenty of hand in the shot.

As soon as the ball cleared the oil and read the lanes, it almost made a 180 into the pocket. Light hits, high hits, flush hits, it didn't matter. Grabbed the first eight and stuck a solid 8 in the ninth. Went 279 256 250, but didn't win as it was a handi capped tourney. But did take a healthy side pot of $120 for the first game.

What was great? As the shot broke down when the oil started moving, the ball didn't do any thing "strange". It stayed on line reading the dry and wet part of the lane without going spastic. Minor adjustments with speed or feet was all that was needed. I was the only one throwing this ball amid all the Storm, Track and Lane #1 products out on the lanes. I must have talked to at least 6 or 7 people about the ball who were impressed with the reaction.

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Keep looking. I'm sure there's a 300 in one of those balls you keep buying!!
Title: Re: Eliminator
Post by: dizzyfugu on March 05, 2005, 05:50:23 AM
Oh, it took a while since somebody (like me) took notice of this great and unique ball and wrote a hymn?

The Fuze Eliminator in a nutshell:
  • Strong and versatile solid light load particle ball
  • Aggressive coverstock; best suited for medium to oily shots, even at OOB finish, and needs head oil
  • With sanded surface suitable for the deepest grease imaginable
  • If you are looking for control on oily shots or carrydown - get one!


    Background:

    Well, finally... the holy grail in my hands! After long hunting I shot down a 2nd hand Fuze Eliminator on ebay at a reasonable price, 9 months old, excellent condition, for EUR 50,- (about $ 60,-> plus complete plugging and inserts  for another EUR 35,-).

    Some details on the ball itself: The Eliminator's coverstock is based on the Aggressive Reactive coverstock used on the Raging Red Fuze in pearl form, which is based on the popular PK18 material. It is a solid version and it features a light load of particles to increase traction on oily and spotty lanes, giving it enough skidding ability to save energy for the backend where the low RG core delivers a smooth but strong move to the pocket. Nice concept.

    Brunswick discontinued the Eliminator distribution in Germany during fall 2004. The last NIB balls have left pro shops in discount: former NIB price was about EUR 200,-, on sale for EUR 150,-, but NEVER for less. Before that, 2nd hand Fuze Eliminators used to reach insane three digit prices at ebay auctions - almost NIB prices! Totally sick, but this ball has a rep among connoisseurs.
    Now, with the advent of the new Impulse Zone in December 2004 and under the shadow of the Ultimate and just released Absolute Inferno, prices dropped suddenly and left budget players like me with this mythical high-performance piece at reasonable prices

    Mythical? Yes! This ball is rumored to be one of the best things Brunswick has released so far onto the mortals' lanes, as far as particle balls are concerned. Experienced local players speak in awe about it, with that certain glare in their eyes, and the Fuze Eliminator is still a frequent sight on difficult lanes where predictability on changing lane conditions is a prerequisite for success.

    About me:
    Style = Stroker/mild Tweener, right-handed
    Speed = 13,5-14,5 mph
    PAP = 5" & 7/8"^
    Axis tilt = 18,7°
    Revs = 250-300 RPM at release
    For more details, check out my profile, please.


    The ball:
    My 15 lbs. Fuze Eliminator is slightly pin-out, CG to pin is 1 3/4. It is a perfect fit for Brunswick's early reaction drill patterns intended for oily lanes - and that's what I had in mind upon purchase. Because the ball formerly belonged to a lefty plus low mileage, the track was almost in virgin condition.

    The Eliminator was supposed be a complement to my benchmark TPC Player at that time as a step up when REAL traction was needed in oil. It received an aggressive roll drilling (once more, a deep bow of respct towards Michael Kraemer for his support), a mixture of Brunswick's patterns 1E and 2E for high-differential balls:
    Pin distance from PAP is 4”, it ended up at 4:00, 1” away from ring finger hole and 1 3/4” from midlane. CG/MB positioned at 45° from PAP, kicked out almost 2 1/2” from the intersection of midlane and midline towards PAP. Large X-hole (1” wide and 3” deep) on PAP was necessary to make the ball legal. Urethane thumb slug and oval rubber finger inserts completed the setup.

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    ==o=o=======
    =====*======
    =======#==x=
    ============
    ===O========

    * = Pin
    # = CG
    x = X-hole

    Surface was brought back to original NIB condition (Cerium Oxide Trizact finish) which I really recommend for this ball to add up to its versatility (see addendum below).
    With the plugged lefty holes and my new ones scattered across the surface, my Eliminator now looks like a ball made for a 7-finger mutant or some alien bowler from outer space... But performance is what finally counts!

    The Eliminator in action:


     



    The testing program in detail:

    First test in a house which is renowned for its spotty lanes, normally offering a short but oily/greasy 30' pattern with lots of carrydown due to social bowlers and irregular lane maintenance.
    Initially stood at 26 with my right shoe tip, playing across 3rd arrow. The Eliminator went down the lane, reacted quite late and surprisingly hard, breaking at about 40' and just making it into complete forward roll when it hit the pins. Nice, smooth ball reaction, controlled hook. Good carry, but less spectacular than I thought in the first place, esp. with the .

    As the lane dried up I just needed to adjust starting position leftwards to 28th board. The Eliminator stayed controllable all the time. In contrast to this, one of my friends (who has more revs than me, though) started with a Fear Factor which was not playable anymore after 2 games. He ended up with a BVP Punisher, but this ball started to jump on dry backend boards while my Eliminator still showed its smooth curving reaction, just covering 2 or 3 more boards when the lane ran dry after 15 games in total. Amazing!

    Next test on the lanes it was drilled for: a 40' sports pattern without walls but with a tough crown and slick Brunswick ProAnvil synth surface. Great! Traction when you need it, but clean through the heads, even after several games. Clean midlane transition and a powerful, rather late backend turn with a breakpoint at 40-42' and then starting an almost violent move towards the pocket. I think it couldn't get any better!


    Some conclusions:
    From my tests and ongoing experience, I give the Eliminator a solid 9 out of 10, with potential for more. It is truly a great ball - with hidden qualities that shine on tough, flat pattersn and long formats. The only thing it cannot handle is simply the lack of (head) oil, but this is not what it was designed for. It will run off or burn up early with its strong Aggressive Reactive Solid + particle grip, even just at a low-load of particles. Too much oil -which is truly a soup into which you could insert a finger! - is also too much for the glossy box condition, but reducing speed makes the Eliminator work even in the deepest grease pit. Sanding is also an option (see addendum).

    Lane utility for tested ball (pattern length vs. oil volume):

    |S M L
    |h e o
    |o d n
    |r . g
    |t
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    |0 0 0| Light volume
    |0 X X| Medium volume
    |0 X +| Heavy volume

    Legend:
    X = Best suited with effective control & carry
    + = Fairly suited (works, somehow, but lacks control)
    0 = Unsuited (ineffective, either slips or burns up)


    The chart concept is borrowed from Storm's 2003 catalogue - IMHO a very good overview tool. Surface prep and drillings may change the results, it is just personal experience with my style

    From Brunswick's description the Eliminator appears to be a special purpose ball for spotty or broken down conditions. But, in fact, it isn't - It is a very good all-around ball for medium to oily conditions, with a unique reaction setup.

    Another positive point is its controllable performance, which you can keep up for a very long time before you have to switch the ball. It is great for tournaments, you just have to read the signs to put it away in time and take out something milder.

    Is the Eliminator still worth buying? Well, Brunswick developed in the meantime other balls that match up with its performance and role - especially the Impulse Zone, which keeps the coverstock concept with a generally higher/more aggressive performance and the more modern Activator coverstock, as well as an asymmetric core which offers drillers more opportunities to fine-tune the ball's reaction. Additionally, balls like the Ultimate or Raging Inferno have close and even superior performance profiles in oil.

    Best current performance comparison to the Eliminator is the BVP Nemesis, which is assigned the same Comparison Chart position (O 17) by Brunswick. But in direct comparison with a friend's Nemesis the Eliminator in box condition had the overall (much) stronger performance, mostly due to its lower RG core and higher flare potential (0.053 - one of the highest Brunswick ever deployed).
    The Eliminator is less oil or lane condition sensitive than the Nemesis, offers more traction ability (even witnh the smooth finish) and a powerful roll. It plays in a higher league, even today. I think it still can keep up with the Inferno line (at least with the Activator coverstock balls) and it will easily match the current asymmetric Zone balls' performance. It will not give you a snappy hook on oil – this is provided by other current big B balls. But, who would really needs this when you can get power, smooth hook and control to rule even the greasiest oil swamp with the Eliminator?

    The Fuze Eliminator is probably underrated, but it has IMHO not been rendered obsolete by other developments. It is just easily overlooked! The Eliminator is not flashy, it does not look like much at all. Personally, I think it looks... boring. Its solid ink blue appearance with the red and white engraving lets probably many people get by without paying closer attention. I'd consider the Eliminator to be a real connoisseur tip. Get one if you can, it will be of great help in the darkest moments! Could even become a collector's item in a few years?

    This ball is pure understatement. It is a ball of choice for those of you who consider sanded Viz-a-balls to be cool spare balls

    Great ball, Brunswick! Too sad that it's gone.

    Addendum Oct. 2005:
    In the meantime I made some surface experiments and brought the coverstock to a semi-matte 1.500 grit. Not much surface one might think, but it made the Eliminator read the lane 4-6' earlier than OOB before, increasing overall hook a bit and softening the breakpoint. I tested this surface on several conditions in local houses and found that it makes the Eliminator a real heavy oil ball! The ball has became way too strong for the lanes I encounter, only 1 or 2 games and it burns up! Imagine a dull 800 grit surface... HELL!!!

    Addendum Nov. 2005:
    Currently I have taken it up again to 2.000 grit with an Abralon pad. Looks similar to the white Trizact pad OOB finish. This prep delivers more length, keeps the ball much longer in play but maintains the good overall traction on the midlane and backend of the 1.500 surface. A true high-grit finish seems to be the optimal choice for this coverstock.

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    Title: Re: Eliminator
    Post by: kcmoreese on June 06, 2005, 12:32:40 AM
    This ball is great. The most predictable ball I roll. Ive used this ball at several lanes and got the same hard hitting results. I can't see anybody hate on this one. Dry or oily it has that same blow up the pocket sound. Sometime I miss the pocket but as the speed picks up on the backend and kills the pins.

    I used this ball the wrong way for all so long. I have a 16lb and picked up my release speed and pow, nothing is left. Out of the box it was great but for me it works best with a dull shine. On my release its so close to the right gutter but gets back on the lane to hit the pocket loud. With the dull shine for me the hook is more aggressive. I cant say enough good things about this ball. Im gonna get another one drilled and dulled also. With this ball folks you dont have to be one of the guys or gals towing in 2-5 balls to the alley. Theres no lanes for me the eliminator cant take over. When I leave pins its something stupid I did.
    Peace

    Title: Re: Eliminator
    Post by: xxhuyxx on December 14, 2005, 01:07:00 AM
    This ball is so awesome. With my drilling of the pin right above my ring finger i am able to throw this ball so a wide hook and still be able to predict where its gone hit. 2 800's so far with it.
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    Title: Re: Eliminator
    Post by: Frank The Tank on April 12, 2006, 12:00:05 AM
    Pin Inch- 2-3"
    Top Weight- 2.6 ounces
    Drilling Pattern- 5 by 5
    Lane Conditions- Medium w/fresh and Carrydown
    Result- Good and perfect for my league
    Averaged last 5 games with this ball- 225

    I had this ball drilled pin above ringfinger drilled 5 by 5 stacked. I tried it out in Village where I don't bowl at and it didn't give me a good reaction so when I tried it on my house pattern I was able to open up the lane better than the one in Village Lanes because they have a long oil pattern there and we have good clean and strong backends. 2 games I bowled with this ball in practice was 233 and 190. I came back tonight and I shot 705 series I was thinking about switch with that Absolute in 2nd game if things never gotten any better because the lanes were hooking strong by then, but I never gave up and never switched balls I made the right adjustments to my game to help me achieve that goal. I shot 705 set (215,245,245) and I'll never forget that night because that would be the night to remember of my first 700 set in my whole life. Like I said before the drilling I chose was for medium w/fresh and carrydown it doesn't hook that well on Long Oil patterns that's when I'll either use Ultimate or Scorchin for those condtions. My arsenal is now unstoppable I'm a dangerous bowler this coming up summer and next season too. Still gotta test my The Thing Returns from Dyno Thane I might have to plug the weight hole and place it somewhere else dunno yet just have to see. But everything else in my arsenal looks good and perfect not changing anything to screw my game up this time I got the balls I need to make me a good bowler.


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    Title: Re: Eliminator
    Post by: MelvinBrunsTrack on May 06, 2006, 04:33:07 PM
    Well I got this one drilled up and I was very impressed. The ball was drilled to go long with a smooth control roll Medium conditions. First game 168 feeling the ball out. Next 213 and third game 219. All my other Big B equipment is very aggressive.
    I give this ball 9 out of 10.

    Swamp monster, Ultimate inferno, Time Zone, Absolute inferno,Fuze Elliminator,Punisher. Spare ball-plastic
    Title: Re: Eliminator
    Post by: lane shark on September 17, 2010, 11:03:39 AM
    My pops had 2 of these 15 & 16lbs. he gave me the 16lbs which he bowled a 300 with and since i'm a lefty it was practically new for me. this ball has the truest and smoothest roll of any ball i have ever had. i can use it in oily, medium, or medium lane conditions. this ball is the perfect example of what old times say, "just let the ball do tha work for ya." not a ball for crankers. being that the ball has a true arc and not a violent backend snap, i got it drilled aggressive on the backend. if you're a stroker or a tweener you can't go wrong w/this ball.
    Title: Re: Eliminator
    Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on April 29, 2012, 10:26:05 PM
    Correction to the ball description - the RG Diff is a strong .053, not .043.

    I bought this ball new and I still carry it in my bag - it is the first ball out - after ten years of use it still hooks the house. It has a very, very predictable consistent reaction the entire way to the pin deck.

    I agree with dizzyfugu that the cover stock is basically PK18 with a light load of particles - and as always has been true of PK18 cover stock, it is virtually indestructible.

    I use this ball as my benchmark to see what ball I will start the game with - except when the lanes are already toast, I will give the Fuze Eliminator a try - unless you run out of lane it is a very versatile bowl as you can get very deep inside with it on medium dry and still carry. In a total flood you may need to get your go-to oiler.

    You can think of this ball as a step up from the Karma solid.

    As I have gotten older I have become more cautious so I don't play the "no guts no glory line" much - if the ball has to hang over the channel to stay in the pocket, this one goes back in the bag:)