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Evil Siege
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
High Performance
- Coverstock: Propel Pearl
- Color: Black / Red Pearl All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Hardness: 75-76
- Factory Finish: 4,000 Micro pad
- Weight Block: MACE Two-component Asymmetrical Core
- RG max: 2.530
- RG int: 2.500
- RG min: 2.474
- RG diff: 0.056
- RG asym: 0.030
- Average RG: 2.8 of 10
- Hook Potential: 170 (Scale 10-175)
- Length: 110 (Scale 25-235)
- Typical Breakpoint Shape: 90 Angular (Scale Smooth Arc 10-Angular 100)
- Flare Potential: 0.056 High (Scale Low 0.00-High 0.060)
- Description: Propel Pearl Coverstock: Propel Pearl is an evolutionary coverstock developed by Brunswick to improve the mid-lane and backend traction of the ball on today''''s slicker oils and lane surfaces. The Propel Pearl coverstock was discovered through testing of new formulation additives and process changes in coverstock manufacturing.
MACE Core: Mechanical Asymmetric Core Engineering. The MACE core has three major benefits: ultra-low RG core system to engage the Propel Pearl coverstock, high RG differential to aid in traction through heavy oil and high RG asymmetric differential to quicken the response time to friction. Designed as a two-component elliptical core system, the MACE core is dynamically the strongest asymmetric core ever produced for a Brunswick ball.
Ball Motion: The Evil Siege unites the Propel Pearl coverstock and the proven MACE core to produce a ball motion that is strong in the mid-land and aggressive on the backend. The Evil Siege is the ball when your game needs help battling medium to oily conditions and poor pin action.
Reaction Setup: The Evil Siege can be drilled using the standard drilling techniques developed for asymmetric bowling balls.
Lightweight Engineering: The unique core shape of each Brunswick ball is used for weights from 14 to 16 pounds. This approach to lightweight ball engineering provides bowlers with consistent ball reaction characteristics across the weight range. The same drilling instructions can be used for 12- and 13-pound balls. This is because Brunswick uses a generic core shape with an RG difference that is close enough to the 14-16 pound shape.

 

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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2010, 06:01:20 PM »
Ball Review: Evil Siege
Date: 01/08/10

Bowler Information:

Initial ball Speed: 16.5 - 17 mph
Tilt: 12 Degrees
Axis Rotation: 35 Degrees
Rev Rate: 300-350 RPMs

Coverstock - Propel Pearl
RG min - 2.474”
Differential - .056”

Drill Specs:
Pin to PAP - 4.5”
Degree From VAL: 45"
Vertical Pin Orientation: UP
Drill Angle - 55"


Surface:

Straight 4000 Siaair Micropad

The Evil Siege is the longer and stronger complement to the successful original Siege.  The Evil has plenty of hook and angularity at the breakpoint, consistent with all of the newer performance releases from the Big B.  This ball has a slight read of the midlane on our 40 foot house shot and then it drives through the pins with a sharp arc with excellent continuation.  It is around 3 and 1 less than my original Siege.  This ball is not your typical skid-snap ball, it has plenty of angularity, but it is so predictable it can even be used as a benchmark ball for those bowlers needing some extra hook in their arsenal.  The Evil Siege is also an excellent complement to the new C System 3.5 when you need a slightly smoother ball reaction on fresher lane conditions.  Big B has created a real winner across the board.  It's time to get EVIL!
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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2010, 07:28:15 PM »
I have drilled one these so far. I drilled it 50x5x60 with a P2 hole. I wanted this one to be smoother on the back part of the lane. I was successful. This ball will allow me to be cleaner through the front compared to my Siege with a 65x5x40 drilling. This ball hits very hard. I was loving the pins flying every where my first time throwing it.
I am drilling another one 65x5x25 so it peels off the spot. I will post a review on that one after I throw it a little.
Drill this ball when you need and aggressive ball without that massive hook. Don't get me wrong this ball hooks plenty but will be very useable on any kind of pattern. I's time to get EVIL....Evil Siege is the ball!!!
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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2010, 12:50:33 AM »
Evil Siege
60x5.5x45
Pin above fingers
No Hole

My first impression on the house shot with the OOB finish was good. My Evil clean through the heads and has a smooth hook to the pocket. Not an angular reaction like I was expecting. I drilled the Siege with the same pin but a 70 degree MB and I get a strong snap on the backend, so I thought since it was a pearl I'd go a little stronger with the mb. This ball definitely smooths out the over under of a wet dry house shot and it lets me keep the angles straighter.

For my PBA experience league I gave it a very light polish to use on Cheetah. I had a great reaction right out of the gate. It calmed down the back end and gave me pull and push room. So far this ball has been the best for me on this pattern.

I tried it on Shark with the OOB finish, but I couldn't get it to kick out the corners. The 3.5 and the 2.5 faired better on the Shark with similar layouts.

For me this ball with this layout is great for the shorter patterns and wet dry from side to side.
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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2010, 10:34:46 AM »
Evil Seige is More “Good” than “Evil”

Dual Angle Layout: 55 x 5¼ x 40
Pin Location: Above
Hole Location: P2
Axis Point: 5¾

Prior to throwing the Evil Seige, I assumed the ball would be closer to its counterpart (The Seige.) Much to my surprise, the Evil Seige was incredibly clean in the front part of the lane due to its Propel Pearl coverstock. Despite being clean in the fronts, the Evil Seige still maintained a strong mid-lane reaction with a strong, continuous back-end finish. For me, the Evil Seige is a great benchmark ball in my bag and is good for multiple conditions. The Evil Seige is versatile and can be used when I want to go straighter through the fronts, but is still continuous and maintains its carry when I move left of fourth arrow and create more angle. I have used the Evil Seige on multiple conditions, including Pure Evil (38 feet, 1:1 ratio), house shots, and the U.S. Open Pattern. On each condition, the ball remained true to form and performed consistent from pair-to-pair. If you want a new ball and want to be “good,” go with the Evil Seige!
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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2010, 05:52:00 PM »
Are you in need of a very even rolling, smooth ball? The Eveil Siege is just that.

When the lanes get tough and I need something to go to that I can trust will not over or under react - this is it. I have my drilled pin under my bridge with 2000 abralon surface and it's a good match up for me.

Very predictable for those that do not want to see much down lane reaction.

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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 11:03:22 AM »
I laid out the Evil Siege 45X4X35, again same as original siege.  This ball compliments the original very well.  I was worried when I first heard this ball was being released at the same time as the new C System 3.5 that the two would be too close to the same.  They are nothing like each other.  The Evil is a little cleaner than the original siege but earlier than a 3.5.  It is not as sharp down the lane as the 3.5, so as the lanes transitioned I found the 3.5 to be a little more useful.  I did like the reaction of this ball on the medium length challenge patterns due to the control down the lane, and for a pearl it did not over read the front of the lane.

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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2010, 11:01:33 AM »
Brunswick's newest addition to the Siege line is the Evil Siege which uses Propel Pearl coverstock developed to improve the mid-lane and backend traction of the ball on today's slicker oils and lane surfaces. The Evil Siege is also equipped with the MACE core which has some major benefits to aid in the Evil Siege's performance first a ultra-low RG core system to engage the Propel Pearl coverstock, next a high RG differential to aid in traction through heavy oil, and finally a high RG asymmetric differential to quicken the response time to friction. The MACE core is dynamically the strongest asymmetric core ever produced for a Brunswick ball.

     I was looking for a ball to complement my Siege drilled 45x5x70 so I drilled the Evil Seige 45x5 1/2x70 to get more length and a similar ball motion to my original Siege. The Evil Siege performed awesome it gave me the extra length I was looking for, but still having a good response to the friction. This ball is not a typical pearl ball, although this ball has a great deal of angle on the back end it is still very predictable. I have had this ball out on our fresh house shot as well as a left over shot from the night before. On the fresh this ball was great allowing me to start closer to the track area while giving me more recovery from farther right creating a strong angle to the pocket and explosive pin carry. On the left over shot I was about 15 boards left of were I was on the fresh. The Evil Siege had tremendous recovery and drove through the pins as strong as it did on the fresher shot.

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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2010, 11:06:31 PM »
Ball: Brunswick Evil Siege

Layout:

Pin 5” from PAP above fingers
45-degree locator line angle
(Dual-angle:  45 by 5” by 30)
No XH

Initial Surface Preparation:

Box finish

Purpose:

To serve as a “go-to” ball from the Siege, and to provide me with a pin-above asymmetric for use on more medium conditions.

Why this ball?

With its Propel Pearl cover, the Evil Siege is intended to be cleaner through the front part of the lane than the Siege.

Observations:

The first time I threw the Evil Siege was during a practice session on a fresh house pattern at a center with five-year-old Pro Anvilanes.  I started the session by throwing the C-(System) 2.5 to establish a baseline.  Fresher patterns really aren't the strong suit for the 2.5, and while I was able to get to the pocket, I had to be careful with my speed if I wanted to get corners out.  I then switched to the Evil Siege, and from the same line, I had a much more even look at the lane from front to back, which resulted in much better pin carry.  The Evil was still clean in front, but picked up the midlane quicker, and went into a strong roll in back.  My carry improved further when I bumped one-and-one right and went with a firmer release.

I've used the Evil Siege twice more at the same center in a second-shift league.  The first time was after a strip-and-oil over a tougher tournament pattern, so there wasn't quite as much hold or free hook as we usually get in this league.  Because of that, we all had to keep the ball in a narrower range to the break, and be careful with our speed if we wanted to carry.  With its midlane read, the Evil Siege made this condition somewhat easier to play, as it helped to open up the track without over-bouncing off of the dry boards.  The second time was on a pair where there was a significant amount of friction.  I was afraid that I might not be able to get my feet to the left and still get an good angle on the corners, but this turned out not to be a problem.  The Evil remained clean through the front part of the lane as the condition broke down, and didn't bog down in back when I had to give up the pocket.

I also used the Evil Siege at a center with HPL in front and older wood in back, on a fresh house pattern.  The Evil did a good job of staying on line through the front part of the lane, and was surprisingly sharp off of the break.  On this condition, I found that I could  get my feet further left and send it to the dry, or square up and play a more direct line through the oil, and have enough angle to the pocket to carry the corners either way.

Conclusions:

For the last few years, I've been seeking a reaction similar to what I used to get from the old asymmetrical Zones.  The Wild Ride gives me that sort of reaction, but has been better for me on conditions where there is a defined dry area, either down lane or outside.  For me, the Evil Siege has been like a stronger Wild Ride, for it has that old Zone look while being capable of handling more volume, and it has a similar presence through the pin deck that the Siege has.  Also, as with the Siege, I'm not seeing an inside limitation with the Evil, for I can chase oil inside as the condition breaks down without losing recovery or hit.

For me, the Evil Siege fits nicely between my pin-above Wild Card and pin-above Wild Thing.  The Evil is a bit longer and more angular than the Wild Card, but doesn't push quite as far as the Wild Thing does.  Also, the Evil Siege will give me the extra length I need on conditions when the Siege starts to burn too quickly and not make the turn.

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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 06:10:51 PM »
After drilling my second one of these, I have thrown it enough to post a review on it. I drilled this one exactly like one of my Siege. I drilled it 65x5x25. I wanted this one for when patterns open up and this is what I got done. It is about 4 and 2 weaker with more angularity then the Siege. Compared to the C System 3.5 drilled 70x5x40 it is longer and about the same down lane motion but overall hook is about 5 and 3 less. Compared to a C System 2.5 drilled 55x5 1/2x40, it is longer and a little more angle but less overall hook but not much.
Overall this will be a great tourney piece as well as THS ball.
Time to be Evil...Evil Siege
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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2010, 08:06:46 PM »
Drilled the Evil Seige up this afternoon after reading and hearing about it. Terrible! This ball was absolute, 100% pure junk. The ball was drilled 60x4x40 and that gave me a reaction that compared to my polished Ogre urethane. I was really disappointed and it left my pro shop guy scratching his head.

In the OOB condition, the ball simply died. I mean it just gave up. The shop roughed it up to 2000 Abralon and I tried it again. Washout, bucket, flat 10's. The shop took it back and dropped the coverstock to 1000 Abralon and we got the same thing. The ball simply quit when it got 40' down lane. It wasn't even reading the midsection of the lane. Nothing.

My driller decided that we should add a flare increasing hole to the ball. The reaction, and I use that term loosely, was still very poor. Finally the pro shop took it back yet again and made the hole even bigger, but this still wasn't the answer.

After banging our heads against the wall for a little while, the ball went back on the Haus, brought the coverstock back up to 4000 Abralon and added some polish hoping that this would get the ball to save it's energy for the backend. Even after all of these adjustments, I still had a dud in my hands.

After witnessing all of this drama firsthand, my pro shop operator did not make me pay for the ball and said he would be in touch with his Brunswick rep on Monday. From the sounds of it, he will have to plug it and put it on the shelf as a used ball.

I really wish this review was different because I've never had a bad ball from Brunswick until now. Unfortunately, I cannot give it the positive feedback that others have given it.


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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2010, 02:18:15 PM »
I am a left handed cranker - 235+ league average.  My PAP is 5 1/4 x 1" up.

I have medium/high ball speed.

I drilled the EVIL SIEGE with the pin from pap 2 1/4", cg 5" from pap and the mass bias 1 1/2" to the right of the center line with out of the box surface.

I drilled the EVIL SIEGE with this layout to provide a strong continuous arc from the breakpoint.  I was not looking for the most hook I could get from this ball but something I could use on a typical house shot on the left hand side of the lane.  

This layout for the EVIL SIEGE provided me with a ball that cleared the heads easily, read the mid-lane great, and gave me a strong continuous arc on the backends.  This EVIL SIEGE hits the pocket extremely hard!!!

January 20th using the EVIL SIEGE for the first time, I shot 269 - 300 - 264: 833 in league and on February 3rd, in league also, I shot my second 800 with the EVIL siege an 805 (268 - 279- 258).

I would recommend the EVIL SIEGE to anyone looking for a new bowling ball.


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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2010, 12:35:24 AM »
This one I am actually impressed with, after drilling up the Siege I had little faith in this one at first but thought I would give it a try. Drilled it up stronger with a 65 x 3 1/2 x 25 layout and this ball actually went through the heads real nice rolled up in the mid lane and made a nice sharp move at the break point. I had to throw it 3-4 more times just to convince myself but this is not the weak ball of the original Siege but one with much more mid lane movement and an actual back end.
I drilled this up with the intention of filling in when the C 3.5 started hooking way too earlier or when the lanes dried up too much but this ball is a keeper and will come out of the bag much sooner than I anticipated.


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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2010, 12:15:51 AM »
Brunswick Evil Siege
15lbs
2” pin
2.2oz top

Layout:
50* by 5” by 50*
x-hole 1” above axis

OOB surface

Bowler Stats:
PAP: 4 7/8” right
Speed: 17-19mph
Rev Rate: 375-400

Lanes:
2.5 year old Pro-Anvil
Kegel Kustodian
A22 oil

Ever since I first threw the Siege, I was anxious to get my hands on a pearl version. The Evil Siege didn’t disappoint.

I thought I’d start out by saying that my nickname for this ball is “THS’s worst nightmare”. I realize that you can strike with anything on THS but our 39’, 8:1 ratio, 19mL THS gave this ball the world. My best look came from throwing around 19mph and making sure that I got a handful at the bottom as I played with a laydown of 15 out to 8 at the breakpoint. The ball ignored the first half of the lane and cornered hard off of the dry boards and was insanely strong at the pins. My original Siege has undergone some surface changes and at 4000 plus polish, I was able to play 10 to 9 with the same amount of speed and hand. When I slowed down to about 18mph with a comfortable amount of hand (around 375), I was able to move further in to a laydown of 22 while still keeping my breakpoint at 8. If it got wide a little early, the strong coverstock provided plenty of grab to steer the ball back to the pocket with plenty of energy left to hit with authority. If I tugged it a little, the pearl cover helped the ball sit that little extra bit and hold. It’s important that I note that when that ball held, it didn’t just sit there in the oil and hit with a mild backend. No, this ball still cornered hard through the hold which is one thing that pearl covers have had trouble doing on our THS the past couple of months.

On a 42’ modified NCAA sport pattern with extra volume this ball did surprisingly well despite having a pearl cover for such a flooded pattern. The Evil Siege gave me the best look playing with a laydown of 12 out to 10 at the breakpoint as I threw it at approximately 18mph with around 375rpm. With the same speed and release, the same orginal Siege mentioned above worked well playing straight up 11. The Evil Siege showed enough midlane read to allow me to miss a board to the right and still make it back to the pocket with ease. The ball’s pearl coverstock also gave me about a board inside that I could miss and still get to the pocket and strike. Characteristically, this pattern doesn’t favor inside lines very well. However, after about 4 games, I was able to move into a laydown of 29 and swing it out to 11 at a slower speed of 17mph. The ball picked up hard and reacted strong enough on the backend to hit hard despite having to make it though all of the fresh volume in the middle part of the lane. When sent a little wide into the track of the others on the lane, it picked up that extra little bit early to make it to the pocket.

On Cheetah, I got to play my favorite line with this ball up the outside with authority. I’ll be the first to admit that I didn’t throw the ball well tonight but as long as the ball got out to 1 or 2 or kept it on 3 (3 was my laydown) the ball made a strong move off the dry and stayed strong through the pin deck. My speed was at least 19mph and my rev rate was around 375. On shots that were pushed out to the ledge, the ball quickly read the friction and flipped hard to get back to the pocket and slap the pins around. Due to the aggressiveness of the ball and the layout, if it hit the 4 board it was high but the 3 boards were more than enough room to get the job done on this pattern. As I was fishing around the last game to get ready for matchplay, the Evil Siege had a quick enough response time to play a bank shot consisting of a laydown of 10 out to 2 or 3 with a slower speed of approximately 17mph. The ball still faced up great and had plenty of carry to get out those pesky 10 pins. This is the most room I’ve had with any ball playing a bank shot like that on the Cheetah and I’ll admit it was kinda fun throwing that line.

To be completely honest with you, I think that the Evil Siege is already my new favorite ball in my bag, the versatility that it has shown from being able to play from the Cheetah to dominating THS to a flooded 42’ sport pattern is what makes it an A+++ ball in my bag. Any versatile ball deserves a rightful place in anyone’s bag and this one is no exception. From THS to brutal sport conditions, this ball shines. The only problem I have is if I only want one more….



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Re: Evil Siege
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2010, 12:53:30 PM »
SPECS:35X 4 1/2x35 OOB Surface

T&O Lanes: Guardian through the front and old wood the next 40 feet. Tried my ES their for the first time last night. Started the night playing 15 or 16 out to about 10 and had a good look for the first game, Later in the night I bumped way in playing 18 or so and swinging it to 10-12 had a much better look with that line than the first probably due to keeping the ball in oil longer.

STATE DOUBLES: At Oshkosh Lanes seemed like alot of Volume but their was also old wood lanes which were creating havoc with reaction and carry, Doubles set first.  I started playing the ES about halfway through the Doubles set getting deep, around 19 at the arrows out to around 15 not giving the pocket, ball got back nice carry was a challenge for me along with everyone else however. Was impressed with it how it handles the volume we were on, it flushed up with the pocket very easily and gave a little more area than some of the other bowlers had.

STATE SINGLES: Ended moving out more played 12 out to 8 alot of extra speed Still no carry and I was clobbering the pocket better than I was in Doubles matter of fact I had 5 ten pins the last game 4 wraps and flat then doubled and left a 8 pin in the fill of the 10th Again I had a good look at the pocket ES got their easily and crushed pins but nothing wanted to go down, ground my way to the end.

HIT/CARRY: Keeps pins down low, everything just goes straight back when the ball hits flush, didn't see many messengers but to be honest none were really needed. Carry was ok not really great though but granted we were in house were carry can be at a Premium. toward the end of the first game my carry shut off which is why I bumped left to find more oil for more angle, and during the last game it was nine count then strike the whole game.

COMPARE: To my AZO Pure Tactics with the same layout, Pure is stronger off the spot, longer down lane before it makes the turn, ES is about 2 feet sooner I would say ALOT more control off the spot probably cover 3-4 fewer boards than Pure total. The great advantage to the ES is the control and predictability. Great advantage to the Pure is POWER in the pins.

OVERALL: The vote is not in yet, I had a good look but the carry didn't impress me very much, I love the volume of oil it handles and how controlled the move off the spot. Will be taking this to state this weekend to see how it does their, we will have two houses that are kinda heavy with the oil this year. After State I have a Sour taste in my mouth, my Desperado carried much better than the ES did but the ES offered a more comfortable line.
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