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Title: Monster SlayR
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
KILLER PERFORMANCE
When the day fades away, lane conditions change. Oil patterns break down. Boards go dry. That’s when Monster SlayR comes alive with killer performance other Reactive balls can ’t match. With the Monster SlayR on your side there ’s no need to be afraid of graveyard conditions ever again.

The Monster SlayR introduces the latest addition to the PowrKoil family of coverstocks, PowrKoil LS.

Long & Strong
Late-Shift
Long-Skid
Late-Snap
All describe the performance of PowrKoil LS.


The SlayR is a medium hook potential ball that comes alive on lanes that have a lot of dry boards, such as broken-down or top-hat (blocked) oil patterns. The SlayR goes significantly longer than balls that use Brunswick’s more aggressive PowrKoil or N’Control coverstocks, but the SlayR matches the more aggressive balls backend hooking action when used on the drier lane conditions it was designed for.

The Monster SlayR uses a Mushroom shaped core derived from the very popular Quantum family of high performance balls. Designed to match up to the slicker lane oils used today, the SlayR features a high density inner core to produce a low average RG and medium flare potential ball. This strong core, in combination with the High Gloss PowrKoil LS coverstock allows the SlayR to generate strong down-lane recovery with a powerful but predictable breakpoint when used on drier lanes.

Coverstock
PowrKoil LS

Color: Red Pearl

Hardness: 78-80

Factory Finish
High Gloss Polish

Core Dynamics
RG Max: 2.543”  
RG Min: 2.500”
RG Diff: 0.043”
RG Avg: 3.5

Performance
Hook Potential 70
Length 165
Breakpoint Shape 90

Available Weights
10-16 Pounds
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: UCFKnight300 on October 16, 2003, 02:41:36 AM
Just got the new SlayR punched up and all i can say is thank you.  I've been throwin brunswick for about the past year and the only problem i've had is that everything hooked so much.  This ball has changed that.  If you need that ball that will get you through the burnt heads and not snap off the lane, this is it.  Mine's a 2 inch pin, pin above the middle finger and cg under the ring finger.  I bowled on a burnt up shot and my screamR wouldn't get to the pocket unless i got around it a ton and got it to the gutter.  Now this ball allowed me to play em a little smarter and it left a ton of energy in the back.  Ball hits great and I recommend it to anyone lookin for their drier lane ball.

Thanks for your time,
Michael Larsen
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: sal on October 18, 2003, 05:13:59 PM
I agree 100% with the previous post.
I to have been waiting a long time for Brunswick to make a dry lane ball like this.
The low price is also a bonus.
I drilled it 4L just like my Bruiser and I am able to move 4 to 5 boards into the the dry with it and create an  arc to the pocket that kept on rolling through the pins and still carried those dreadful 1/2 tens.
Thank you Brunswick and I hope you keep making great balls.

Sal Turano:
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: Iguanadon on October 22, 2003, 03:48:13 PM
At least everyone around him can see the logo on his ball, that's what matters.
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: smaglik on October 27, 2003, 11:18:52 AM


I'm going to actually post a review of this ball...heh.

Got this ball in last week thanks to Brunswick's college pricing plan, and the initial impression is very positive.

THe ball came with 3.7 top and a 5.25" pin.  We stacked the pin / cg over the center of grip.

On a broken down house shot, the ball allows the user to user push the ball through the heads without increasing ball speed or dropping the thumb, items that usually decrease carry potential.  The ball retains plenty of energy for a strong finish, and tends to shy away from over-reaction in the dry.  Excess carry down will hurt performance.

On a fresh sport pattern (37' with fresh backends), this ball provides plenty of length and flip, however be wary of carrydown, as it can push the ball through its break fairly easily.

If you have any q's, please ask.

Ed Smaglik
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: jkaiser on November 05, 2003, 12:28:21 PM
The Monster SlayR looks to be a ball for several bowling styles.  First, this ball will get down the lane with relative ease.  Second, it does need to have some friction on the lane, or dry area for it to work well.  Guys who have a lot of hand will like this ball for when they really start to hook and need to get in.  The players who are a little straighter will like this ball too when the track gets blown out and when you switch to other pieces of equipment and move in they don't make it around the corner.


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Jason Kaiser
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: Garcia on December 13, 2003, 12:01:15 AM
Drilled - Pin above bridge, Cg kicked out, X-hole on PAP (5.5x4)
Coverstock - Grey scotchbrite, reshined with Neo-Tac #2

The length is this balls strength, the backend motion is smooth and readable. But this ball needs friction. Lots of friction. Best thing about this ball, is its ability to ignore the fronts and allow the player to go straighter on either burnt heads or old wood lanes. What seperates this dry lane ball from others is its smoothness, it wont over-react when it hits dry. It helps you stay in control on lighter conditions.


Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: Bob Hanson on December 23, 2003, 01:25:28 PM
I was looking for a new dry lane ball, and the price I got from the Brunswick seminar was too good to pass up.  Also, I like the quantum core and I have had good luck with other low rg mild surface balls ( Battle Zone Cannon ) on the dry.  This one came with 3.7 top and a 3 inch pin.  I set it up with the pin under the bridge ( 5 inches to PAP ) and the cg kicked out about an inch.  I put a small hole 2 inches below the axis.  

I first tried a few balls with it on a super walled fresh pro anvil lane with lots of dry outside 7.  I was able to go right down 6 board and get a pretty good reaction, although I think the carry down would have stopped me in a few more shots.  I next took it to a very old anvil lane house for a second shift league.  The heads go quick in this house and I typically end up play semi fall back around 20 board with either my Inferno or Bruiser.  I tried the SlayR in warmups and couldn't get any kid of reaction, even in the track area.  I threw the Inferno all 3 games and was setting it down about 23 crossing 20 at the splices with a break point not much to the right of 15.  After league I got the SlayR back out and threw 2 more games.  I was able to move back right and threw a bunch of strikes targeting 19 at the splices.  The ball revved great and carried a variety of pocket hits.  I think the SlayR will be at its best where you have a pretty toasted track and drier heads.  Even with flying back ends, the head oil might make it a little squirrely for me.  Heavier handed guys might like the ball because the low rg will keep it from being quite as flippy.

Overall I think this will be a great dry lane ball, although I would place it a little further right on the Brunswick chart.  The quantum core is simply too strong to put it over in the Power Groove area.          

Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: Buckwild on December 31, 2003, 07:40:43 PM
I just had the SlayR plugged and redrilled (SOMEBODY left this ball on the rack where I bowl at: must've not liked it). The pin is above the ring finger, and the cg is a little to the right. I can play this ball in the track (no deeper than 15), and it has serious length and a strong snap in the backend. I will definitely play this ball when the lanes dry up, and still be able to play outside to 15. The pin to cg placement is 2-3".
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: Traumatize on January 27, 2004, 12:07:32 AM
Drilled this ball up 2 weeks ago.  Pin under the ring, with the cg swungout about half an inch.  Close to 5 x 4 1/2.  For my style and preference, This ball is awesome.  was expecting length with snap and it is completely opposite.  It combines early roll with excellent length, and creates the most controllable arc i've ever seen.  Very versatile on drier conditions and/or clean backends.  On my normal house 10 to 10 house shot, I can play our very dry outsides and not worry about over/under.  The only dislike i have of the ball is when the shot breaks down and carrydwon appears.  But then again what pearl ball likes carrydown?  The hit and carry on this ball is also very good.  Trips light 4s very well, and blow the rack on lighter hits.  On most flat hits it will send a messenger at the 10.  Overall this ball is a very good control ball as well as a good first ball out the back.  Great for flatening out and shooting spares with.  I now have the confidence to go straighter cross lane at 4s and 7s.  Beast ball in my bag.
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: what do i know on March 10, 2004, 05:24:43 PM
Hello all,
I have recently drilled this ball and my first impression was YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! This ball is the weapon that the strong handed need in the war against bumper bowling. Its clean through the heads readable in the mid lane and smooth on the back end. What ever brunswick did with this cover they need to keep doin it.

 I used a 0-1 pin and drilled it 4 1/2 x 4 1/4 this is normally a pretty aggressive drill for me but in this ball not only could i keep it in play it didn't become over aggressive off of the friction right.The down side to this ball is that when the lanes push i have to make very very good shots to carry. It doesn't allow me to get away with half hits and light hits. If i can get another with a longer pin i will see if the added flare helps, all in all this ball is a tool for the skilled. Just like i belive all players should have a V2 in there bag i also believe that all heavy handed or heavy rolling players should have a slay r
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: wely4 on March 28, 2004, 03:20:09 PM
this ball is awesome for light oil conditons or broken down lanes. it has really good length with a smooth angular break. once a track is broken into the ball it hooks a bit more so i put a light polish on it once in a while.
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: Zack Pelton on May 05, 2004, 03:35:52 AM
Brunswick Monster Slay R
Pin 2-3 inch
15lb's

Overall
Monster Slay R I got used in a trade for one of my Vortex 2's. Drilled the ball with the pin above the ring finger and cg kicked out an 1 1/2, weight hole needed. Polished with ebonite factory finish and was put through the Ebonite Hook Again. I have been putting together a sport shot arsinal the past couple of months and this seems to be a good fit.

Sport shot 30 foot and buffed to 35.
I started out with a straight wrist normal grip pressure and playing up the 3 board. The shot was definatly there with that ball, but there was not any room for error. Next I keep everything the same and moved left to play the 8 board. This shot walked to the pocket all night. Then for a little test I lightend up grip pressure and went from 15 to 8 this shot also walked to the pocket. Don't get me wrong I miss a couple to the left or right it went its repective way. Shot 202, 203, 238, 243, 210, 201 with four opens with this ball. I played the middle of the lane but anyone how knows me I do not belive in playing the middle of the lane on a sport shot. Too touchy.

Pluses
The ball hits hard and works great for all sport shots I have bowled on.



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Zack Pelton
Bowl to Win!!!!
Repeat Shots Nothing Less

Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: Kingpin 300 on May 05, 2004, 12:17:51 PM
This is one of my favorite balls.
16lbs pin 2-3
cg in palm pin beside ring finger

This ball has great length and an excellent backend reaction. It hits hard but on certain conditions it has trouble carrying. Probably the best ball in my bag.
Used it last thursday morning for a pick-up league, I came in late and got put on a pair that didn't get oiled, so I was bowling on broken down lanes and i shot the lights out. 249, 267, 264 for a 780. I have shot numerous 700+ series with this ball. I recomend that every bowler should have one.
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Carson Lineberger
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: twoheadedboy on September 03, 2004, 08:34:57 PM
15 lb 2" pin, box, drilling layout approx 1L, medium-high revs, medium-high speed, tweener.

I wanted a ball for light oil and I got it. Almost has a hook-stop reaction, and is not very forgiving...If I missed left, it still hooked about the same number of boards, same if I missed right. On the other hand, it didn't end up in the channel if I missed left, and that's great! But it didn't come back if I missed right, despite the walled condition.  Lanes had a medium oil pattern and if I threw it my normal speed, it did not pick up a roll, but still carried pretty well when I pointed it. I slowed down a touch, got over the top and went up the boards, and that's when the magic happenened. I would compare this ball to a Speed Demon Zone, with maybe 3 - 5 fewer boards of hook overall and quite a bit less back end. Has a similar high-rev quality, and the Quantum-derived core gives it a very smooth reaction.  Really, the lane condition I was on was more suited for my primary ball, a Denim Quantum, so I'll probably post a second review once I see some true dry.

I can't see one using this as their only ball or the 1st ball out of their bag unless they're at an extraordinarily dry house, have a lot of revs and low speed, or both. This ball fills a very specific need and does it very well. I also liked using it for spares.
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: twoheadedboy on September 04, 2004, 06:09:15 AM
Well, I got a whole slew of different conditions in the course of 3 games tonight with it...found out this afternoon that the Friday night league MIGHT need a sub (had been trying to get in a league unsuccessfully for a month, only two centers in a two-town area of 75,000), so I showed up and sure enough, this mixed league needed a permanent male team member.  This is a 9pm league and I see the lane guy just finishing up the oil when the place opens at 1pm, and I don't think they're oiled again, not sure how many leagues happen on Friday...anyway, the condition started with a somewhat short pattern, medium oil gutter-to-gutter (light side of medium), and FLYING backends.  This was strange considering every other time I've bowled here, it's been your standard wall.

That was the pattern during warmups, anyway. By the 3rd frame, apparently there was sufficient carry-down, because this ball turned into a hockey puck! I almost went back to the Quantum, but I wanted to get some experience with it so I stuck with it. Well, split city in the 2nd half and I ended up with a 131, which was my lowest game in 2 years! I was having some knee pain, wasn't throwing particularly great, and the pattern was a little spotty.

Game 2 was a completely different story. By now, I was using a very direct route for me...on the left lane, I was standing on 6 and throwing out to 4, on the right lane it was right up 5 all the way...ball was getting a nice arc into the pocket this way and was very controllable, though wasn't getting into a nice roll like I like. As a result of this I threw a 210 (got all my spares!) that could have very easily been much higher, as two flush pocket shots left a ringing 9 and a ringing 7.

Game 3 was about the same, ended up with a 166. My 5th game of the day (not used to that number of games again yet), missed a couple of spares I shouldn't have, knee hurt, thumb started to hurt a little bit, wasn't as fundamentally sound as I should have been.

Conclusion: The ball is very sensitive to speed and carrydown. Its late reaction allows you to slow it down and still control it well though, and it hits just as hard as your full speed ball (probably the loudest hitting ball I've ever had!) I threw very well with it tonight (overall) because I was able to match my style to the pattern with the ball, but I still think there are way better options for a walled shot. The reaction and roll of this ball reminds me a LOT of the Command Zone (the original purple pearl one), so if you loved that ball but couldn't throw it on dry lanes, this is the ball for you. If you're a person who only wants to move their feet and mark when adjusting to conditions (keeping your speed and hand position the same), I don't think this ball is going to realy work out for you very often, unless you bowl at a house where the condition is very consistent, or if the layout is always the same and you're 1st shift and if it's dry.
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: Greg7 on October 16, 2004, 09:17:02 PM
This is a mild, forgiving pearl and a very under-rated ball. IMO it's also misrepresented by Brunswick as being highly angular, super long and designed primarily for spotty conditions, e.g., blown heads.

Ball drilling: 4.75" x 4.75" stacked, 3" pin out, 3+ oz top weight, pin above ring

Bowler: +/-15 mph; right handed, medium/high revs (approx. 300 rpm); minimal side turn (30 deg. ? axis tilt) unless absolutely necessary

1. This ball is good for light to medium lane conditions. Fresh, spotty, whatever. Yes, even medium. Your ball speed and revs will affect its range of applicability but it's versatile enough for me for typical league conditions but I can't play a big swing shot with it. If I feel like playing down-and-in around 10 or a mild 5-10 board belly out from around 10-15 this ball will provide.

2. It's a very "rolly" ball and thus the hook is smooth and arcing, not a snap for me. Even on flying backends it's at best (worst?) a sharp arc but still very predictable. Perhaps more angular for someone with more side turn on the ball (I haven't experimented there yet) but compared to my skid/snap benchmark 4.5" stacked Silver Streak Pearl it's pretty mild for a pearl.

3. It's not a big hooking ball. The trade-off is control and predictability. Miss left x amount generally results in hitting light by x amount. Ditto missing right. On flying backends it can recover if missed left but I don't count on it (nor should I with any ball I own). It doesn't over-react. It hooks about 10 boards less than my Silver Streak Pearl and has very similar length, i.e., slightly longer than midlane.

4. Being a mild pearl it doesn't particularly like carrydown. Again no revelation there. I have to square up and play further right over the same target if I encounter a bit of carrydown. But it's still fine on minor carrydown typically encountered in a 3-game league, for example. I haven't used it on moderate to heavy carrydown, though. The nice thing is that it's unaffected by spotty heads when the oil starts migrating down so it doesn't burn up early and puke in the pocket in that situation like a particle or stronger solid reactive would.

5. At the pins the Slay/R is above average to very good. It retains energy well -- it has a moderate core that seems to match up well with the mild cover. Not the heaviest hitter in my arsenal but not bad at all, no complaints. I see a few more weak- and trip 10's with it on pocket hits than my Black Danger Zone reissue or Silver Streak Pearl on identical conditions, for example, but it still trips the 10 way more often than not. Because of the rolly/arcing move it carries light hits well. With my medium ball speed I practically never see messengers regardless (even with my snappy Silver Streak Pearl) so can't comment there.  

Overall I really like this ball in my arsenal for: (1) control situations in medium/light oil; (2) playing a more direct line and/or further outside; and (3) for when the heads get spotty. It's my 'go to' ball in one medium-condition league, for example, where the heads often dry up by game three. Also, I simply kill my wrist for 10's and 6-10 spares and this ball acts like plastic in those instances and the color is stunning.

I hope Brunswick keeps this one in their lineup in spite of it not being another big hooking ill-mannered monster. Brunswick's specs on this ball are nearly identical to their (pearl reactive) Power Groove but I find it much more versatile for the reasons I listed above.
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: Brunswickroller19 on January 09, 2005, 11:22:59 PM
Pic http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzI2MzQ4NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

This ball rolls very late but has a nice smooth backend with great carry. Perfect for a burned out house shot.  Will have more reviews soon
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: RevChallenged on May 27, 2005, 10:26:46 AM
I picked up a SlayR on special at Buddies Pro Shop ($57). This ball was a great bargain. I do not have a lot of hand but I have never seen a ball backend for me as much as the SlayR (on the right conditions with dry outside boards). Mine was drilled for aggressive skid/flip reaction and this ball rolls great. It is ultra-smooth rolling down the lane and it takes a smooth but aggressive turn at the backend and hits hard. I was worried it would be a waste of money for my style (Stroker/low revs/med speed) but I'm glad I bought it and it will be my second go-to ball when my Nemesis starts to overreact.
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: jutterbowl on June 03, 2005, 10:16:39 AM
Ball is made for only very dry lanes. Skids a ton and snaps nicely depending on drilling. I have mine drilled with pin under middle finger and cg 1" above thumb. It works great on really burned up lanes.
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: TheBozz on August 17, 2005, 02:27:30 PM
I bought this ball about 2 months ago and finally got it drilled. First a little personal information about me. I have been bowling for 40 years and I am currently carrying a 220 average in one league and 230 in the other league. I am a tweener with moderate revs and moderate speed. The houses that I bowl at one has medium oil with medium backends and the other house has dry backends with heavy oil in the front. The Monster Slayer is drilled to have a big backend with very little midlane reaction, and no weight hole. I cannot get this ball to react on a consistent basis. Some times it wants to hook and will have that back end and hit very hard, other times it just will not turn up at all. I am very disappointed with this ball. If I had the chance to do it over again I WOULD NOT BUY THIS BALL.
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The Bozz (abad day of bowling beats a good day of work all the time)
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: TeenBowlerGurl16 on September 27, 2005, 12:22:34 AM
My monster slayr - I named it Rory the Monster Slayer - is 13 lbs, out of the box finish, drilled with the pin under my ring finger. I tend to put a LOT of curve on... with my old ball, a 10-lber, I had a nasty habit of hitting the brooklyn side. Almost always. (Actually worked pretty well for me.) Anyway, I've been using it for about a month now. It goes a lot longer than my old ball. I like the way it rolls into the pocket - it knocks the pins away, very satisfying. I've been having some difficulty keeping the curve consistent, though - but that's probably just because I'm an ameteur. Overall, it's a great ball, and I've been breaking my personal records since I adjusted to the ball, and I'm closing almost all my frames, although I have difficulty with the first ball - almost no strikes, and the ones I got were pretty lucky. I didn't always have this problem, so part of me wants to blame it on the ball. other than that, it's great.
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I didn't say WOBBLE, you stupid pin, I said FALL OVER!!!!
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: MonsterSmashR on July 20, 2006, 11:56:37 PM
Ohh man, I can not believe I bought this ball. I have sanded and sanded it and did everything I could to make this thing hook. I normally throw a banana ball type shot, but this thing can barely make it on the down and in shot, which is my second style. I can rip my fingers out of the ball and put a ton of revs on the ball and it might hook 2-3 boards if I am lucky. All in all, I wouldn't suggest this ball to anyone for a primary ball. I just use it for spares sometimes or if the lanes are REALLY REALLY REALLY dried up.
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Steve

You have to have balls to bowl the way I do.

ARSENAL

Monster SmashR
Monster SlayR
Storm(spare)
Solid Uranium
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: captzap on August 14, 2006, 11:54:14 AM
Got this ball a few weeks back and had it drilled. Threw it a few frames but there was too much oil for it. Well last night after league I pulled it out to give it a try since all my other balls were too much for the conditions. While making no move on the lanes I shot 215 with the last 5 in a row. This is a great ball for burnt out conditions.

CaptZap
Title: Re: Monster SlayR
Post by: Will07 on November 03, 2007, 11:01:57 PM
This ball is amazing
IF YOU ARE A CRANKER BUY THIS BALL
ok everyone loves a high hook potential ball that you can throw hard with a ton of revs and have it snap in the backends into the pocket 'ON OIl'

well if you have high rpm when the lanes dryout you have problems getting the ball to go down the lane and retain energy into the pins

AND THATs EXACTLY WHAT THIS BALL DOES
When the lanes are fried this ball reacts like a high hook potential ball on oil...goes long and flips

this is not a ball for a fresh shot due to over/under reactions 'high gloss polish' if you dont have 450 rpm like myself 'cranker' you might want to alter the surface.

A Crankers dream, a ball that comes alive with energy on burnt conditions
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'Its All About The Sound Of The Strike'