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Walter Ray Williams Jr. MVP
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
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Color: Black; Coverstock: PowrSurge Reactive Urethane; Factory Finish: Polished; Weights: 10-16; Hook Potential: 17.5-9.5; Typical Length: 4; Typical Backend:   10; Maximum RG 2.584; Minimum RG 2.553; RG Differential: 0.031; Average RG: 4.8; Track Flare Potential: 6.4.


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Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. MVP
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 1999, 02:00:00 AM »
It's Walter Ray!  Well, the ball is.  This ball in the MVP line has the Combat Zone coverstock (PowerSurge) with the Gold Rhino-Pro weight block.  The best thing about this ball is its control.  Not much flare, and stays online in dry with not a lot of snap.  It has a mellow, predictable backend with a nice mellow snap whatsoever.  I had the Walter Ray MVP drilled in a true stack-leverage drilling with a 2.5" pin and 2.7 ounces of top weight.  My first three game series with it was a 715 with a 279 to boot.  It stays online, hits extremely hard for a ball with minimal track flare, and again is extremely predictable.

I feel Brunswick has put out a good selection with their MVPs.  These three are basically Zones from the past:  The Parker is the Sapphire Zone, the Walter is the Combat Zone with a Gold Rhino Pro wight block, and the Aulby appears to me to be similar to the Defense Zone and the Danger Zone 2 (D2Z), but I do not have this MVP.  Also a good thing about these balls is that they're midprice, so you can get a great ball without shelling out a ton of money for a new Zone.  With these you basically get a Zone from the past, and with the Parker (the Sapphire Zone) I feel this is the best.  The Sapphire Zone was one of Brunswick's best balls ever, and nobody can go wrong with purchasing the Parker Bohn, III MVP.  I am so happy Brunswick decided to re-introduce that ball!  So do yourself a favor and invest in one of these MVPs.  Excellent bowling balls at a nice price.


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Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. MVP
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2000, 10:57:25 AM »
I have my WRW MVP drilled with

a pin axis layout.  The pin

is 1 1/2 inches from my PAP

and extra hole 6 3/4 from

grip center thru the cg.

The cg is bumped out 1 1/2 inches.

Surface is 1000 wet sanded.

Please consider the layout for

my description.

It plays well up the boards on

medium to drier wet/dry and

with a slight swing on breakdown

conditions.  It also helps with

spare shooting on tricky conditions.
String the Strikes and Fill the Frames ..... Good Bowling


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Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. MVP
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2002, 11:22:04 AM »
If you are looking for a ball to use when the lanes get tricky, this is ball for you. I purchased this ball online a week ago and just used it some this weekend during league play. I had it drilled for moderate length and a strong backend. I have moderate-high revs with a high track. The ball worked just as I wanted. During the first game, I rolled it down 10 and it would break right for the 1-3 pocket. In the last game, I could throw it 15 to 10. The ball moved smoothly to the pocket without snapping off the dry or flattening out in the carrydown. The only downside that I noticed is because of the lack of aggressiveness in the ball, if your not fairly accurate, you can leave some pretty UGLY splits. On a scale of 1 to 10, I would certainly rate this ball an 8.


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Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. MVP
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2003, 10:10:44 AM »

297 Varippa yesterday.

Throwing a bunch of stuff on the left to compare.
First one ball then another.  Then one of our talking heads comes in.

You're not throwing very well today! Oh missed the headpin! Ooops.

Finally I just grabbed this new rock to me and threw about 3.  Turned gave him the 3 sign, then the counting started, 4,5, 6, 7, 8, a little crowd of fellow bowlers joined in.  9 10 11, aaaaaaaah!!!

What ball is that?  Walter Ray!  


Got this little rock from Charlest.  Pin out almost 2 inches.  Top weight after plug about 2 1/4.  He and I talk I say I'm going for a ball just a touch stronger than a solid beast.  His reply this isn't it!

So I drill moderately strong.  3 3/4 pin to pap, 3 1/2 cg to pap, Pin outside and to the side of ring finger cg stacked and up from grip center about 1/2 inch.

Throw some reaction is pretty big I think.  Go to put a weighthole on pap, and then say I'm going to try to take legal and leave reaction as is.  Weighthole 6 1/4 from grip center straight out and ending top of 3/4, side 1/2, finger 1/2.
Finish is crosshatched 1000 with a good dose of Ultimate Black Magic.

Reaction is the same as pre weighthole.

To put the reaction in perspective.  I was throwing my Revolution Rebel ECX(new time zone core with weaker cover), solid polished blue violet Tornado and next to me by a similar handed lefty were the Rotogrip Silver Pearl, and Time Zone.

I had certainly the best look with this ball.  Swinging on a nice little line this ball over 13 at the arrows 10 at the 30 foot mark and out to about 6 - 7 at the break this had the smoothness, early move and strong squaring up at the break point my sloppy house demands!

The closest good matchup of all the balls mentioned was the Time Zone.
My rebel slightly too long, almost like always in this house, one can see the 7s coming.  The Tornado was too little on this somewhat sloppy backend shot. (Rare).

This ball if anywhere near the mark on this length shot(about 38) with not real receptive backends, (lanes had been oiled at 8:00 the previous evening it was now 1- 4 in the afternoon).  Just would move smoothly, cover a goodly amount of boards and then turn hard and pound flush.

Similar reactions I've seen.  Ultra Hot(Ultra a little longer), Red Pulse(Walter MVP has a little more punch diff.31 vs .20), In fact that's it!
The Red Pulse early smoothness with the Ultra Hot back!  That's Walter.

All year I kept telling people in my house, If they would just make a Monster Scream/r in solid I would kill this house!  This is it(look at weight block pictures similar).  This combination of Gold Rhino core with Powersurge coverstock(think Green Combat zone).  Is one smooth mother hitting beauty!


PS stronger drilling and slightly higher diff makes this ball quite a bit stronger than the solid beast in this house (beastie can't usually kick out the corners in this house.)
PPS Don't even bother!  I've got a lead on a backup already!!!
PPS The closest ball I have to this is my Smash/r  this Walter may have moved ahead of that great ball in to the number 1 bag! Slightly more punch!?
PPPS Very closest ball of those readily available today, Wicked BRT.  Similar Specs, similar to smash/r length with a little more punch too!
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Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. MVP
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2003, 01:31:29 PM »

I had moved switched from a half synthetic - half wood house(backs) to an all synthetic house.

This ball had been travelling and had been out of sight.  Was thinking of the over/under I had been seeing in this all synthetic house.  Decided it was Brunswick day to beat this all anvilane(brunswick) surface.

Walter, Smash/r, Time Zone, and a bunch of other stuff.

Again this old solid black orb out performed everthing.  After I got done experimenting I finished up just using this best of the bunch and went 222 and 219 with no strikes in the 9th or 10th.

This ball is just awesome where you want a strong and angular but controllable motion.  Synthetic backends that are overreacting are another condition that is right in this balls wheelhouse.  Shots of 32 to 38 feet are really something it loves, anything more because of the medium low flare potential it is just not enough.

But on the medium length shot what great medium skid, smooth turn and then angular pop at the pocket.  I continue to hardly ever leave 7's with it.

Straight up the boards or small swings it loves!!

Again 2 inch pin out drilled 3 3/4 by 3 1/4 with a weighthole at 6 1/4 from grip center.

All the control of my Sledgehammer, more pop at the pins if needed.


PS just for your info, Time Zone drilled 3 3/8 X 3 was too archy, smash/r was too even hard and early.  Threat didn't have much but arch and a strongly drilled Violet Hammer stacked was just too over under really asking for more oil.
PPS if you can get your hands on this ball get it and drill it pretty strong.
I believe it is almost the Monster Scream/r solid!
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Re: Walter Ray Williams Jr. MVP
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2005, 11:04:02 PM »
I love this ball.  I got this back in 2000 when I was bowling in YABA.  I don't really know any of the measurements other than it's 16lbs.  i just told the driller to max out the performance.  I started using it more when I went ABC and I've shot 2 300s with it.  I find the best shot being when the lanes have broken down a bit and a more powerful ball snaps too much from the outside.  I tend to stand at 29 and aim at 12.  I give the ball a little loft (like Walter Ray), it peaks at 4-6 and always comes back.  Don't be afraid to give this ball some air, actually I think it likes the greater loft.  I feel this is my best ball in my arsenal compared to my Ebonite Killer Instinct, Columbia Shock, Columbia Fear, V2 Strong, Absolute Inferno, and Columbia Icon.
It's hard to find this ball, but it's worth the search.  I've found 3 on Buddie's Pro Shop under Closeouts.