Post by: Strider on February 10, 2010, 08:00:30 AM
Fortunately, the current span is really close, so I'll be able to throw it some to get a general idea of the cover strength and hook shape before I plug and re-drill. Hopefully I'll like it pretty much as is (pin under ring, CG out a little + a weight hole) since the previous owner plugged the thumb twice adjusting the span.I've read many of the reviews, but is there anything I should know - drillings to avoid, etc.?
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Post by: on February 10, 2010, 04:10:44 PM
Have the oil extracted and resurface it. Very versatile ball. You'll love it.
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Post by: charlest on February 10, 2010, 06:56:12 PM
Just remember it's 3 - 4 years later than its heyday.
It was for medium oil at a minimum, up to medium-heavy. I'd assume it's still, with normal drillings for at least medium oil now.
If it is used, do an oil extraction FIRST!!!
220 grit + Rough Buff was its stock surface, if I recall correctly.
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Post by: ralphiejantz on February 10, 2010, 07:11:23 PM
my favorite was the total inferno with a regular label drilling pin out to the left of the ring finger
I have a brand new NIB total inferno Im just waiting to drill up when I get some time
Post by: Strider on February 10, 2010, 07:14:22 PM
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Post by: Bahshay on February 10, 2010, 08:40:57 PM
Post by: dizzyfugu on February 11, 2010, 01:06:27 AM
IMO a rolly piece, and from my experience with the coverstock it was very sensitive to surface changes (had a Shock & Awe with Activator+, too).
OOB (220 grit + Rough Buff compound) it was great, but I was later never able to replicate the surface, and found that between polish (Went VERY long for me) and just 4.000 Abralon (much more arcing, 3' earlier breakpoint vs. OOB!) was a huge reaction gap. Or, in other words, the cover responded VERY strong to preparation changes.
The AI might not be as sensitive due to the simpler low RG core, but if you face reaction problems, do not hesitate to experiment with the surface!
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Post by: RSalas on February 11, 2010, 12:36:56 PM
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Wasnt the Classic Zone the brother of the Absolute Inferno. Not the Vapor Zone?
Zone Classic is to original Inferno as Vapor Zone is to Absolute Inferno.
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Post by: iamnas22 on February 11, 2010, 01:08:08 PM
Post by: tizzle on February 11, 2010, 04:33:11 PM
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Post by: dizzyfugu on February 16, 2010, 02:00:51 AM
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Trying to resurface my Vapor Zone was a dismal failure, every attempt at surface prep either had it hooking at my feet or turned it into a hockey puck.
Similar experience with Activator+ here!
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Post by: Strider on March 26, 2010, 01:01:26 PM
. A new center manager was assigned to the place who knows nothing about bowling and he's chased a few of the bigger leagues out due to his lack of lane upkeep. No one comes in, so the shop is closing due to lack of business. It's a shame, because the driller is very good.Anyway, we moved everything up a bit, so the pin is beside my ring finger and the CG is stacked below. No weight hole is needed, but have the option of adding one if I want. I had sanded it to 500 abralon and de-oiled it before giving it to them. After drilling, I had him apply a light coat of (Ebonite Factory Finish) polish so I could try it in league (different house).
Much like the original drilling, it's all about the midlane. Clean through the heads, real good midlane read, and surprisingly still not real strong on the back. I thought the higher pin and polish would have given me more. Plenty to get the job done, but was expecting more. Developed some carrydown on the left lane early. A small move right got me solid in the pocket solid again. With most of my pearlized equipment, moving right often hits the dry too much/too early and causes over reaction. I was very pleased with how the AI read the lane. The right lane started hooking. This time, the small move didn't help so much. The trip 4 became a nose split even after moving. Moving further left got me back to the pocket, but carry wasn't quite as good. Flat 10, weak strike, and a sold 8 were my results after moving a few extra boards. I'll probably have to play around with hand positions more to see how the ball likes to be thrown.
I have some Rough Buff on the way, so next time it will have the original 220/RB to see how it acts. I'll use it at league again, but I think that combo will be better served on sport patterns. So far, it reads the lane somewhat like a weaker shell BW Bite. A little more midlane and not quite as continuous down lane (still have the option of maybe a P3 weight hole), but I really like the ball motion.
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Post by: TTforshort on March 26, 2010, 04:26:46 PM
I will be the first ball out in Reno. I have a Red Zone to back it up.
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Post by: RandyO on March 26, 2010, 10:04:21 PM
Post by: RSalas on March 26, 2010, 11:31:28 PM
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Post by: 9orbetter on March 27, 2010, 03:49:42 PM
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Post by: Strider on May 05, 2010, 07:43:14 PM
Finally getting used to the ball. It's a little strange. Very easy to throw through the break point if you miss your release a little. But I do really like being able to be much straighter through the heads. A lot of equipment on house shots make me cover more boards than I really should with my rev rate. Moves tend to be urethane like. Start coming in a little high and move 2 left. Moving three will commonly come in very light, so if I have to make this "big" move, I have to get softer with my speed as well. The other odd thing is how dirty it gets. Most shiny equipment stays pretty clean, so I don't clean them as often. After a few sets, it didn't seem to be reacting quite as well, so I hit it with some cleaner and I was surprised how dirty the rag was.
I've pretty much been using it every set "just because". My teams weren't going anywhere up or down the last few weeks so it gave me a good chance to see what it could do. I did pretty decent on the Viper qualifier. Shot 160 something out of the gate (poor shot making), but shot over 200 the other 5. Came in 4th or 5th, but only the top 2 got paid entries. Viper played quite a bit slicker here (PBA oil machine, or just the new version, I don't know). A little more surface would have been good for me.
My last two league sessions have been very good. 759 on Tuesday where my carry wasn't really that good (fought the 4 pin/10 pin thing) and 791 Thursday. Started 263-269, had the front 6 and the big 4 bit me on the butt. Struck out for another "almost" at this house. The odd thing was that it looked perfect off my hand, at the arrows, and the break point. I still find it hard to believe that particular ball jumped so hard on the back. This was a rare night of not only throwing it well, but being able to really see the ball/board at the break point as well as my rev rate/axis rotation. That's three 790+ series and countless 11 strike games, but no honor score at that house. My average is always 7-15 pins higher than the Tuesday house, but I haven't been able to seal the deal yet.
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