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Equipment Boards => Brunswick => Topic started by: Gene J Kanak on April 22, 2015, 03:17:09 PM
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Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I'm about two weeks away from heading to El Paso for the Open Championships. At this point, I have a pretty good idea as to the six balls that will be making the trip with me; nevertheless, I always like to hear what you fine folks have to say.
I have two 3-ball rollers that will travel, so the arsenal will be 5 plus a plastic spare ball. Here are my options:
Mastermind
Mastermind Intellect
Mastermind Genius
DV8 Brutal Nightmare
Melee Cross
Melee
Melee Jab
Strike King
My initial thought is to go as follows:
Mastermind (2000)
Intellect (1500)
Melee Cross (500/2000)
Melee (Box - maybe a touch of the shine knocked off)
Melee Jab (2000 plus polish)
T-Zone
That would mean leaving out the Genius, Brutal Nightmare, and Strike King. Any thoughts on these options - before you say it, yes, I know it's hard to truly make suggestions without having seen me bowl. This is more just taking a stab stuff.
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I'd take your 3 melees and the t-zone
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I like it, Gene. I'm betting that Cross will be in your hand lots...
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I think I'd go with all 3 Melees and the Genius. Pick 1 of the others for the last spot
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I bowl next week and plan on taking the:
Melee Cross @ 1500 - 2000
Melee Jab @ 3000ish
Soul
Strike King
Urethane Groove spare ball
I may throw the Brute in, but not quite sure on which surface yet...
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I'm IQ nano, and something else. Lol to be named later
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Maybe a dead cross road....it works well off the spot for me when there is much back end, idk why
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notclay when do you bowl. We bowl next week on the 30th and the 1st, got both 830 squads though.
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Chris,
I bowl team the 29th @ 5:00 and Doubles/Singles the 30th @ 9:00 am.
If you're around introduce yourself to me. It's nice to put names and faces together.
As I've watched others bowl it looks like controlling the last 1/3 of the lane is the real challenge, which is why I'm taking stuff that will hopefully help me do that. I have not practiced on the patterns, and won't have time to before I leave, so you have any insight/experience I'd love to hear it.
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Im bowling the 27th and the 28th... I have had a chance to practice on the pattern here are home a few times and based on what I saw here is my arsenal for El Paso... Going with an arsenal that offers a smooth read with a little pop on the end.. However I am taking a few stronger pieces just in case... But will test out my idea at the BJ before hand... Good Luck and good bowling to everyone!!!!
Virtual Gravity (2000+Light polish)
Hyper Cell Skid (Box)
Outcry (3000)
DV8 Terror (Box)
Hot Sauce Pearl (2000/polish)
Crossroad
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right now from reports it seems the bad intentions and game breaker 2's are what's winning events right now. That's what vermilyeas group mostly used along with rob gotchall. The other guys on there teams reported using iq tour solid and iq tour nano. Obviously the theme this year is solid rolling bowling balls with surface. Also symmetrical is heavily outweighing asymmetrical. And pin down is being used more than pin up. I would think most people's first ball out to get a good idea would be a pin down solid symmetrical with surface between 1000-2000 and then go from there.
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Thanks guys! I drill nearly everything pin down anymore... And I usually do favor the symmetrical cores (because of inconsistencies with the bowler).
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i would go with the melees, intellect and genius. i think the mastermind and intellect overlap.
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I am looking at the following:
Motiv Covert Revolt (2000)
Columbia 300 Delerium (1500)
Track MX10 or Jet Aviator (likely 1500 on whichever I take)
I have bowled on a "version" of the pattern. The shot shape appears to match up pretty well with the Team pattern, except the outside part of the lane appeared to maybe be a bit more wet than on the live streams and there is likely to be more wet/dry transition in El Paso over what I bowled on.
I practiced using 3000 grit equipment listed above and had very good looks with a little over under. This is why I think dropping to 1500 and 2000 will do me some good out there.
I use BBE to ship, so i just end up shipping a case of 4. I always have the option of taking a 3-ball bag through the airline, but i am not so sure it would be needed.
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I just returned home from bowling earlier this week. Our bowlers had the best reaction from symmetrical balls with a lot of surface. A surface of 2000 or lower is best.
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Thanks, CPA for the report.
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Thanks, CPA for the report.
+1
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If I was going, I would go Moxie@2000, Darkness@2000, King Cobra@4000, Night Hawk@4000 and All Day@4000. Maybe my Grip-it @2000 with polish.
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We went and symmetrical balls with surface worked best, the harder you throw, the more surface you need, don't be afraid to go all the way down to 1000 if you gas the ball. Currently in 10th place in team. IMO breaking them down right of 5 is the way to go.
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My teammates are good bowlers/smart guys, but some of them are afraid when the ball looks gritty. lol Then again, a couple of them rip the cover off of the ball, so they're always worried about anything that has the potential to create early hook on them.
As of me, I'm pretty much a medium speed tweener. My revs may be a tad higher than the average, but I'm not a cranker by any means. As such, for surfaces, I have fresh 2000 on my Mastermind, 1500 on my Intellect, 500/2000 on my Melee Cross, 1500 (plus lane shine) on my Melee, and 2000 plus polish on my Melee Jab.
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Take sandpaper with you. Unless the rules prohibit, you can adjust the surface until the first ball is thrown in competition. It doesn't take long to do an adjustment by hand. -- JohnP
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Take sandpaper with you. Unless the rules prohibit, you can adjust the surface until the first ball is thrown in competition. It doesn't take long to do an adjustment by hand. -- JohnP
Once you are on the lanes at the Open, you aren't allowed to do anything to the ball. You can't even use ball cleaner. All that stuff has to be done in the squad room or before.
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Take sandpaper with you. Unless the rules prohibit, you can adjust the surface until the first ball is thrown in competition. It doesn't take long to do an adjustment by hand. -- JohnP
Once you are on the lanes at the Open, you aren't allowed to do anything to the ball. You can't even use ball cleaner. All that stuff has to be done in the squad room or before.
That actually just changed this year. I just got back from El Paso, we checked directly with the staff. You can now adjust your surface until the bell rings.
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That's a huge change from previous years and it's about time they allowed it. Time to invest in that turbo sandbagger.
Take sandpaper with you. Unless the rules prohibit, you can adjust the surface until the first ball is thrown in competition. It doesn't take long to do an adjustment by hand. -- JohnP
Once you are on the lanes at the Open, you aren't allowed to do anything to the ball. You can't even use ball cleaner. All that stuff has to be done in the squad room or before.
That actually just changed this year. I just got back from El Paso, we checked directly with the staff. You can now adjust your surface until the bell rings.
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Take sandpaper with you. Unless the rules prohibit, you can adjust the surface until the first ball is thrown in competition. It doesn't take long to do an adjustment by hand. -- JohnP
False, we were hitting balls with 1000 abralon pads all of practice.
Once you are on the lanes at the Open, you aren't allowed to do anything to the ball. You can't even use ball cleaner. All that stuff has to be done in the squad room or before.
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Yep, the previous guy said it changed this year. In previous years, they mentioned it a couple of times in the squad room that no changes could be made once on the lanes.
I seem to remember something about it happening last year in one of Riggs 11th Frame columns and people making a big deal about it.
Take sandpaper with you. Unless the rules prohibit, you can adjust the surface until the first ball is thrown in competition. It doesn't take long to do an adjustment by hand. -- JohnP
False, we were hitting balls with 1000 abralon pads all of practice.
Once you are on the lanes at the Open, you aren't allowed to do anything to the ball. You can't even use ball cleaner. All that stuff has to be done in the squad room or before.
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Yep, the previous guy said it changed this year. In previous years, they mentioned it a couple of times in the squad room that no changes could be made once on the lanes.
I seem to remember something about it happening last year in one of Riggs 11th Frame columns and people making a big deal about it.
Take sandpaper with you. Unless the rules prohibit, you can adjust the surface until the first ball is thrown in competition. It doesn't take long to do an adjustment by hand. -- JohnP
False, we were hitting balls with 1000 abralon pads all of practice.
Once you are on the lanes at the Open, you aren't allowed to do anything to the ball. You can't even use ball cleaner. All that stuff has to be done in the squad room or before.
Talk about "big deals" they are nazis about rosin this year, we were almost DQ'd.
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I'm awaiting confirmation on the rules change - being allowed to alter surface until the bell rings - right now; however, I do remember from my time working there being told that at least part of the reason why they disallowed it in the first place was due to lack of bowler courtesy. People were hammering down on balls with sandpaper/scotchbrite and getting everything covered in dust/powder, which would then get onto everyone's shoes and onto the approaches, making things dirty and dangerous for everyone. I'm sure the same concern is there with rosin/powders. If people keep that stuff self-contained and away from everyone/everything else, I'm sure it's not a problem.
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I just got the confirmation that, yes, you are now allowed to change the surface of balls up until the bell rings, so it looks like I'll actually have a reason to bring some abralon pads this time around.
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just verified it on bowl.com.
you may alter a surface up to the starting point of competition.
(competition is defined as when you start bowling for score)
you may alter surfaces in practice before team & doubles. you may not touch any surface after that. not between double's & single's either.