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LotsaBalls

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Avalanche Urethane
« on: June 03, 2010, 01:29:02 AM »
Mine should be here tomorrow, has anyone drilled one yet?

 

BKloss

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2010, 10:33:17 AM »
I am still patiently waiting on mine to be delivered
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LotsaBalls

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 11:23:59 AM »
I was out of town for a tournament on memorial weekend and there was a staffer throwing one and it looked good. Alot more in the back than I expected but still very smooth.

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 11:40:23 AM »
Indeed I bowl with Johnny petraglia he has three punched up. They're smooth and deliberate but finish nicely.

J_w73

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 12:12:41 PM »
getting mine today..
Thinking 5 " pin to pap with the pin above ring finger... Maybe 30-40* to the VAL..
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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2010, 12:21:43 PM »
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I was out of town for a tournament on memorial weekend and there was a staffer throwing one and it looked good. Alot more in the back than I expected but still very smooth.


any idea on the layout ???
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 220,PBA Xperience 185
375 RPM, 17-18 MPH, 45+ DEG AXIS ROTATION, 17 DEG TILT

LotsaBalls

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 12:34:31 PM »
His was just a label layout, around a 4" pin to pap.

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2010, 02:44:49 PM »
Just drilled one up for Corey Clayton, 4 1/2" to PAP, 40 deg to VAL, no x-hole. Good length, smooth with a little pop on the backend w/OOB finish. Knocked the surface w/2000 siiar, which made it much more readable.
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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2010, 02:54:19 AM »
is there a difference with the siiar and abralon pads?
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charlest

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 06:22:06 AM »
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is there a difference with the siiar and abralon pads?
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Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T-Zone
Brunswick Black Ice Zone
Columbia 300 Freeze

17 mph ball speed
360 Rev

Work in progress


What kind of difference are you looking for?
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mj79

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 12:39:42 PM »
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is there a difference with the siiar and abralon pads?
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Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T-Zone
Brunswick Black Ice Zone
Columbia 300 Freeze

17 mph ball speed
360 Rev

Work in progress


What kind of difference are you looking for?
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."



??? im not.. im wondering if there is a difference between the 2... like are they the same thing, with different names or what
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Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T-Zone
Brunswick Black Ice Zone
Columbia 300 Freeze

17 mph ball speed
360 Rev

Work in progress

J_w73

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 01:27:14 PM »
They will be different.. 2000 Abralon will not be the exact same as 2000 Siaair  ..or whatever numbers Siaair uses..


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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 220,PBA Xperience 185
375 RPM, 17-18 MPH, 45+ DEG AXIS ROTATION, 17 DEG TILT

charlest

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 04:10:54 PM »
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quote:
is there a difference with the siiar and abralon pads?
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Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T-Zone
Brunswick Black Ice Zone
Columbia 300 Freeze

17 mph ball speed
360 Rev

Work in progress


What kind of difference are you looking for?
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."



??? im not.. im wondering if there is a difference between the 2... like are they the same thing, with different names or what
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T-Zone
Brunswick Black Ice Zone
Columbia 300 Freeze

17 mph ball speed
360 Rev

Work in progress


They use different abrasives but they use the same grading system, FEPA. So P2000 grit FEPA = P2000 grit FEPA, whether it is applied by an Abralon pad or a Siaair Velvet pad or by a wet/dry sandpaper.

I had found the Siaair to last slightly longer and to cost slightly less than an Abralon pad.
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J_w73

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2010, 04:24:42 PM »
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quote:
quote:
quote:
is there a difference with the siiar and abralon pads?
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Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T-Zone
Brunswick Black Ice Zone
Columbia 300 Freeze

17 mph ball speed
360 Rev

Work in progress


What kind of difference are you looking for?
--------------------
"None are so blind as those who will not see."



??? im not.. im wondering if there is a difference between the 2... like are they the same thing, with different names or what
--------------------
Brunswick Diamondback
Brunswick T-Zone
Brunswick Black Ice Zone
Columbia 300 Freeze

17 mph ball speed
360 Rev

Work in progress


They use different abrasives but they use the same grading system, FEPA. So P2000 grit FEPA = P2000 grit FEPA, whether it is applied by an Abralon pad or a Siaair Velvet pad or by a wet/dry sandpaper.

I had found the Siaair to last slightly longer and to cost slightly less than an Abralon pad.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."


yes same grading system but I heard the finish and reaction is slightly different between the two manufacturers..

That may be do to the fact that the SIAAIR last and cut the same for a longer period of time. I have not personally tested them though.
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 220,PBA Xperience 185
375 RPM, 17-18 MPH, 45+ DEG AXIS ROTATION, 17 DEG TILT

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Re: Avalanche Urethane
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2010, 08:48:43 PM »
I just got my avalanche pearl.  I didn't use angles to lay it out, sorry.. but I put the pin about an inch above the ring finger and the CG kicked right of the ring finger a bit.. 5" pin to PAP. PAP 5 1/2 over and 3/8 up.. cg ended up just above the midline and to the right of the ring finger..

Ball is definitely weak and smooth.. when I hit the dry the ball didn't jump off of it at all.. Lanes were way to slick for the ball ..
I will try it again on my Tuesday league where the lanes are usually toasted..
Will report back then..

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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 220,PBA Xperience 185
375 RPM, 17-18 MPH, 45+ DEG AXIS ROTATION, 17 DEG TILT