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Equipment Boards => Brunswick => Topic started by: SVstar34 on August 28, 2014, 06:45:28 PM
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How does the Blue Ringer compare to the original Melee?
I've never really liked the look of the reaction from the Melee that I've seen in videos or in person as it seems to really lope downlane.
I'm looking for a smoother reaction but not as strong as the Melee Cross unless you guys would suggest a Cross with polish.
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Avoid the red Melee. Any Ringer is a better ball for the money. The blue Ringer is the strongest of the three in this series. The blue is a great ball. Mine was stronger then expected but in a good way. Drilled with a 2.5" pin to pap it handles oil no problem. It and the Platinum make a great one-two punch.
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that blue ringer looks awesome. super smooth with high enough RG for THS
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I agree with Kidlost2000. Get the Blue Ringer. Better ball for the money -- the entire Ringer series is for that matter. I have my Blue Ringer drilled with an aggressive pin-down layout. I've yet to use mine on a sport compliant/flat pattern, but I have used it in pot games and have done quite well ($$$) with it.
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I was already leaning towards the Ringer. Thanks guys
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Just a note, you need to compare apples to apples. The Blue Ringer is a great piece but keep in mind that it comes at a much more aggressive surface finish. The coverstock on the Melee is stronger and if you put them to the same surface, the Melee will handle oil a little better, especially downlane.
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I don't know if the Melee would really handle oil that much better. The Cross for sure would but the original I have doubts on that.
I was considering both at the same surface in my mind just didn't put it down here.
If I could get a Brute early I wouldn't have a question of what ball to get. I don't really feel like waiting...so I was looking at other options
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The Melee and Blue Ringer on the same layout for me were night and day different. I tried everything surface-wise to get a satisfactory reaction on the Melee before getting rid of it quickly. Had two other people locally tell me they had the same results and disappointment. I just drilled a Melee Cross and it is far more impressive then the original.
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What do you think about a Melee Cross with a weaker layout and polish? If I did that I'd probably go with a layout like 60 x 5 x 60/70
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Give me a week still breaking in the Cross
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Got anything on the LT-48? I just realized I missed that one.
I feel like it would be similar to the Ringer maybe a little more reaction downlane
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Two undrilled so im not sure.
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I've been told since I love my red melee, that I would absolutely love the LT even more. Staffers tell me the LT is smooth like the red melee, but it's a bit later and drives through the deck better.
LT vs ringer, I have no clue as there are not many ringers being used where I throw.
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The LT 48 is NOT smooth at my wet dry house shot!
It has a highly responsive backend. Many are scuffing to slow it down off the side.
On the other hand a ball like a Meanstreak Beatdown, A Rotogrip Grand Illusion are very smooth and constant!
Anyone compared a Ringer Blue solid to the Meanststreak Beatdown? My guess is more board coverage in the back to the Meanstreak Beatdown vs Ringer.
Anyone?
Regards,
Luckylefty
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I have a Beatdown and a Blue Ringer on the same layout and so far they are extremely close. The Ringer Solid is much more ball then expected.
In terms of smooth that can be controlled by layout and surface for many bowling balls. If you have a lot of friction then a shiny surface will do what they do best and react quickly. Less shine slower response to friction as you observed.
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Wait a minute! are you saying that the Beatdown and a Blue Ringer are similar?? I have the Beatdown and I keep it at 4K Ab and its still very aggressive I also have the red Melee which
was a HUGE over/under ball until I put it at 4K Ab and then it was awesome and the two cannot compare at least for me...
Now I want a solid ball thats a little stronger then my Melee and I was really looking at the Blue Ringer to fill that void...I thought I would give it a try OOB and then make a adjustment after that but looking at the Blue Ringers specs I dont see it all that strong, of course, I have not thrown it yet so maybe its another ball thats waaaaay strong OOB.
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I have both the Meanstreak Beatdown and Blue Ringer. The Meanstreak Beatdown is drilled pin in ring, CG in grip center, surface is at 500/2000 Abralon. The Blue Ringer is drilled pin in ring, CG in grip center with a Motion hole, and the surface is at 3000/4000 Abralon. The Blue Ringer is the perfect step down from the Meanstreak Beatdown. I get length with a nice controlled backend with continuation through the pins.
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I have a Beatdown and a Blue Ringer on the same layout and so far they are extremely close. The Ringer Solid is much more ball then expected.
Is my experience. The Ringer Solid is a lot more ball then expected.
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I'm like a few of the other posters here. I have both a Beatdown (actually, three: pin-up, pin-down, aggressive; pin-strong) and a Ringer Solid (pin-down, aggressive). Depending on which Beatdown to be compared, I stand as close as three boards right on the approach when using my Ringer Solid, but no more than five boards right.
The Melee has never been a ball that I've considered, nor have I really considered the Melee Cross, which supposedly replaced the Beatdown. I suppose that's also why I bought three Beatdowns just for that very reason.
Here's a recent video of me using both a Beatdown and Ringer Solid . . .
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Great information provided here regarding the comparison. About 3 board less, for the Ringer Solid exactly what I am expecting.
And a drilling close to what I expect to use from Direct Drill!
Thanks,
Luckylefty
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With an equal layout the Blue Ringer is a few feet earlier and several boards stronger than a Melee. The Ringer Solid Is a few boards weaker than a Beatdown and just a little longer. The two would be very close if you add a little surface to the Blue Ringer and drill it a little stronger.
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Thanks Chris what I thought! The Beatdown was a little much for me!
SO, I think drill the same and I'll have what I need.
Smooth strong and a little less.
Thanks....everyone for great comparisons!
Regards,
Luckylefty
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I have both the Melee and Blue Ringer. I have tried the Melee at a few different surfaces and even added an extra hole and it was still not a good ball in oil. The melee was a good ball, no doubt, but if you are looking for a ball to give a better look in oil than the Blue Ringer out weighs the Melee. I love the Blue Ringer, it is the ball I wanted the Melee to be.
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I have both the Melee and Blue Ringer. I have tried the Melee at a few different surfaces and even added an extra hole and it was still not a good ball in oil. The melee was a good ball, no doubt, but if you are looking for a ball to give a better look in oil than the Blue Ringer out weighs the Melee. I love the Blue Ringer, it is the ball I wanted the Melee to be.
This is exactly what I was seeing from the videos and some reviews. Thanks for the input
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Had 735 with blue ringer first night out. That's on older wood lanes. Normally one or three 700's bowled there in a season.