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Brad Angelo on TV
« on: January 26, 2007, 02:14:38 PM »
Hope he can win his first title. GO...GO...GO...
BTW, what he throw this week?

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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2007, 04:52:18 PM »
Having crossed with Brad at Fountain, I can tell you he looked tense and not at all on his "A" game. Perhaps it was knowledge that he had minor room for error and Billy had a great line to the pocket. Either way his body language told me that he felt defeated after just the first few frames. Great to see Brad make the show after struggling at Fountain...
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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2007, 05:10:31 PM »
I think Norm made a very valid point about setting the lane up.  Given that Brad was the only player on that side of the lane and his ball rep (Rick Benoit) is one of the best at lane strategy, how did it become such a trainwreck?
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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2007, 05:14:44 PM »
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So he's not on his A game but makes the show by ripping the shot apart ALL week?

Also.. if he thought he was defeated after 4 frames.. NO ONE can say that isn't a sign of weakness and amateurity. That's something Steve Rodgers should have felt... not someone that has been on tv for now 13 times. If so.. There have been newcomers to have more composure.. and that's just horrid when looking at him.

I mean... I like Brad's game.. I like the company he throws, and I think he has a great roll.. but today.. the only word that explains it is "wow."



He could have easily been on his "A" during the week and then just not feel as good on Sunday. He hadn't bowled on that shot since Friday night. Just my observations.

There's also something to be said about his record on TV. Sure he's been there 13 times or so. Has we won? No. Has he gotten the breaks on TV? No. Have his opponents severely out-averaged him? Yes.

These past experiences can and probably do affect his thoughts and emotions while on TV. This could easily lead to him feeling defeated as though he's thinking.."What the hell do I have to do to win on TV???"

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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2007, 05:15:53 PM »
Also Ric H. said something about him using the Smokin' all week....why was he trying to use a Fury and Total???

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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2007, 05:33:17 PM »
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The pair did not play like they did all week; the fronts went and the backs tightened up. How would you have played them?


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I sure as hell wouldn't have thrown 7 balls through the beak.  At some point I would have tried to speed things up some.
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When you have 2 individuals that are affiliated with a competing company, that did not compete during the week, as well as extremely opinionated, YES.


I find this statement "amateurish".  Whether or not Duke competed during the week or not, I'm 100% sure he is qualified to make comments on the pattern and how to play it.

With all that said, everybody has bad days.  Unfortunetly for Brad, his seem to come on Sundays.  

In my topic:
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=151632&ForumID=86&CategoryID=5]

guzmand makes a very valid point, maybe that timing step just isn't good for a one game win or go home situation.  

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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2007, 05:54:05 PM »
If you're referring to that pause, he's been bowling like that for 20 years.  I'd think it'd be kind of hard to stop doing that in the middle of a match.
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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2007, 06:07:51 PM »
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If you're referring to that pause, he's been bowling like that for 20 years.  I'd think it'd be kind of hard to stop doing that in the middle of a match.
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I agree.  I was piggy backing on guzmands comments, that maybe it works as good as anything else in long formats, but maybe a long term change is needed to help with those one game matches.

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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2007, 06:33:49 PM »
just a personal observation here, but after 3 frames I knew Brad needed to make a big move, speeding up on tour doesnt work, you need to stay consistent, and by pushing and pulling the ball in your swing to speed up, thats just 1 more thing to second guess.

With that aggressive equipment, i probably would have made a 10 board move left, and targeted the friction spot downlane, which appeared to be the 5 board at about 45 feet.

But, what do I know, I'm not on tour.

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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2007, 08:06:20 PM »
I feel for Brad.  I have had many similar experiences on these patterns.  I am not a pro and I am still learning, but he looked like ME on a bad day!  I'm somewhat glad to finally see someone struggle, it shows they're human.  It has looked like a house shot on TV all season; today was refreshing.  Then again these guys are pros, they should be able to adjust.  They do have a ton of time to practice and create there own shot on that pair.  I guess he was just using the wrong hand!!!
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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2007, 08:12:22 PM »
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Also Ric H. said something about him using the Smokin' all week....why was he trying to use a Fury and Total???



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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2007, 08:33:46 PM »
You have to take into effect that like MVP said this pair wasn't touched all week this is where the paddock was. With Brad throwing the Fury that tells me that the transition down lane was funky. The plan earlier in the week was to start out more  direct and break the pattern down lengthwise and avoid pushing the pattern to the right and creating hang to the right and hook to the left. So something funk was definitely going on on the right side.

Norm and Randy didn't bowl on the pattern at all and to tell you the truth didn't really watch that much. Both of them throw a different company and have vastly different rolls than Brad so they can't really read his transition the way he can. There were also no other righties to compare lines with. And I find it Amateurish for Norm and Randy to think that Brad didn't try to break down the lane at all. It's not like Brad went out there and was just like whatever I'm not going to try.

You can't compare Walter success in all lefty field with Brads. Walter likes most patterns on the fresh. Brads ball will always be more sideways out of the pattern than Walters so Brad doesn't like the fresh as much. It would have been there had been another righty on the show to blend the pattern out things might have been a little different.
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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2007, 10:24:40 PM »
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I will disagree with you on this. In bowling the PBA Patterns if you had a decent look, one of the best ways to keep with the shot is to make your adjustments fron to back with speed and hand changes. With the breakdown of the patterns no move in or out is guaranteed.

I'm not in any way saying Brad made the right choices, but to make such a statement as "speeding up the ball on tour doesn't work" is just foolish.

 I would much rather try and stay into the consistent track area.


you will bullhead yourself home with that approach.
move or lose, its your choice, its match play, not a 36 game qualifier.
that line wasnt working for him AT ALL, straight up shot cuts over, bounce out shot slides, how does speed fix anything?

He had the surface to make the turn on a deeper line.

If you screw around with a speed much higher than your normal speed, you're going to mess with your mechanics as well, especially mid game.
That approach is normally "installed" as a game plan, not plan D.

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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2007, 10:36:54 PM »

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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2007, 10:41:11 PM »
I give up with you L1B.
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Re: Brad Angelo on TV
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2007, 10:42:16 PM »
BTW, where has Robert Smith been since the Japan Cup?

Poor choice of an example.