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Title: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: gkuypers on February 10, 2016, 02:53:03 PM

I'm looking to get a new ball, but want it to be different then my current Brunswick Mastermind Intellect. At times the Intellect in my house seems to struggle in the early games with little room for error. Thinking of possibly trying the DV8 Grudge for these early games then switch to my Intellect. Would this be a good option or are these balls too similar? Or any other options or feedback is welcome.

Title: Re: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: lbss831 on February 10, 2016, 03:31:53 PM

The Grudge will give u Lil more length and more overall hook

Title: Re: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: Brandon Riley on February 10, 2016, 03:58:46 PM

Neither house that I bowl in ever put enough oil out for me to even use my Intellect on fresh oil in league.  What surface is yours at?

Title: Re: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: Gene J Kanak on February 10, 2016, 04:04:13 PM

For me, in box finish, the Grudge is earlier and smoother than the Intellect. With the box shine on it, my Intellect goes crazy on the back end. I also think the Grudge handles more volume and is better suited to tougher patterns, again, when both are at box finish.

Title: Re: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: gkuypers on February 10, 2016, 04:43:51 PM

Thanks for the responses. I just had the ball refinished to out of box a few weeks ago.

Title: Re: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: lbss831 on February 10, 2016, 06:23:59 PM

My grudge is out of box but pin is also over the middle finger,so with mine is see more length and backend

Title: Re: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: chrisleftwich on February 12, 2016, 09:40:58 AM

I would agree, my Grudge is drilled pin up above fingers with cg kicked less that 1/2 inch and it also has more length and backend.

Title: Re: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: gkuypers on February 12, 2016, 12:07:41 PM

Thanks for the information. With the Ultimate Nirvana coming out I may wait a week or so and decide between the Grudge and Ultimate Nirvana. Looking at the specs it seems the Grudge will have a tad bit more hook, but balls should be pretty similar in my opinion.

Title: Re: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: westtex on February 16, 2016, 08:08:58 AM

The Grudge will be earlier, not necessarily more hook.

Title: Re: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: tuckinfenpin on February 16, 2016, 09:47:25 AM

If you are looking for a heavy oil ball, get the Grudge.

I am uncertain how the Ultimate Nirvana would compare to the Intellect. I am sure they will be a closer comparison than the Grudge / Intellect.

Title: Re: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: BrunsNick on February 16, 2016, 10:04:52 AM

The Grudge is quite a bit more hook, it should give you more area when the lanes are fresh.

Title: Re: Brunswick Mastermind Intellect to/with DV8 Grudge?
Post by: gkuypers on February 22, 2016, 09:58:00 AM

Well decided to get the Ultimate Nirvana. I can say for me it does go longer and seems to be cleaner through the heads than my Intellect and the Backend is more aggressive, but still an arc not a snap. I have the Ultimate drilled @ 12 O'clock, where as the Intellect is drilled just outside the ring finger. For me this ball seems to hook 3-4 boards more and carries more energy to the pocket. Thanks for all the advice.