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n00dlejester

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Brunswick question
« on: June 02, 2008, 11:52:26 PM »
Is there a solid version of the Twisted Fury on the horizon?
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2008, 08:21:45 AM »
Yes, if my sources are correct.

I heard last week that a solid version of the Twisted will be out in time for the start of Winter leagues.
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2008, 09:07:36 AM »
That's how I would have answered it, too. (Holding the light bulb while 2 others are turning the ladder)


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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2008, 09:58:27 AM »
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I heard last week that a solid version of the Twisted will be out in time for the start of Winter leagues.
 


Hurry....Hurry....Hurry....My Twisted Fury Pearl needs a mate...
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2008, 10:21:07 AM »
I would not make a bet on a solid TF, but there is for sure a high end oil ball in the pipeline, since the UI re-release makes only sense if it fills a gap of some months.

But beyond that, wild speculation, even if it was a solid reactive (plausible, though) and/or a symmetrical or asymmetrical core ball. I'd expect a lower RG for an oil piece, and maybe some bigger differential.

Wait and see. First of all, survive Bowl Expo, anything else later
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2008, 02:52:22 PM »
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I would not make a bet on a solid TF,


You can't be serious...So you think the Twisted Fury (Asym) is done ?

After one ball ?

You know they are not gonna make a particle or a particle pearl...Maybe a 1/2 solid & half pearl...

Name one 1 of Brunswicks past HP line that they didnt have a Solid ?
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2008, 03:00:43 PM »
There's already been a solid in the Fury line.
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2008, 03:08:43 PM »
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There's already been a solid in the Fury line.


...but not with the Asym core...

You think they are going to dump it after one ball ?

Come on people, Brunswick moved to Mexico to save money, you think their gooing to dump the Asym core after one ball ?

Next....
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2008, 03:24:29 PM »
No I don't think they will dump the asym core,  I would expect it to be released at the masters like it was last year.  Believe me I would love for it to be a Solid.
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2008, 08:22:13 AM »
Rockin,

Who's bashing it?  I think it is a good release.  It buys them the time they need to get to a fall release.
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2008, 08:40:53 AM »
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You can't be serious...So you think the Twisted Fury (Asym) is done ?

After one ball ?

You know they are not gonna make a particle or a particle pearl...Maybe a 1/2 solid & half pearl...

Name one 1 of Brunswicks past HP line that they didnt have a Solid ?


Do not get me wrong - I do not say that the TF is done, or the Fury line in general. But I would not expect to see "the same ball" just with a sanded solid cover. The TF is IMHO a very sophisticated overall package, a good match of coverstcok, surface prep and core, for medium conditions. But it is IMHO not the best option for an additional oil ball.

Maybe take the core concept, but IMHO some changes would make it a more suitable product for an oil ball, e. g. with a lower RG, some more differential, and maybe a different coverstock formulation - just take a look at what happened with the Fuze Igniter and the Fuze Eliminator some years ago, both rather specific but very effective solutions. I think we might see something similar?
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2008, 10:16:41 AM »
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The TF is IMHO a very sophisticated overall package, a good match of coverstcok, surface prep and core, for medium conditions. But it is IMHO not the best option for an additional oil ball.
 


Dizzy, you keep mentioning "oil Ball". Why does it have to be an "oil ball"? Why not a polished solid or a non-polished solid that is a bit less aggressive than an oil ball? I have had excellent success with polished solids from other companies such as the AMF Heist, Lane 1 Solid Cobalt Bomb, and etc. Why not a Twisted Fury with a similar cover?
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2008, 10:22:31 AM »
I think of oil bal because that's missing in the high end line - even though with the discontinuation of the Blast Zone and the Mammoth thare are additional gaps appearing in the arsenal.

Besides, you are right, because that with the Fury Pearl discontinuation there will also not be much left in the high performance line? But would a polished solid TF be a true or plausible addition to the line-up? It would IMHO be too close to the TF, so I'd expect something condiderably stronger above the TF, and then, with some more added "distance", a heavy oil ball to take the place of the UI re-issue in a couple of months?

Well, we'll have to wait and see...
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2008, 11:17:07 AM »
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It would IMHO be too close to the TF, so I'd expect something condiderably stronger above the TF, and then, with some more added "distance", a heavy oil ball to take the place of the UI re-issue in a couple of months?


Dizzy, I understand what you are saying and understand your thinking of the balls being too close. However in my case and for my style, the Heist and Twisted Fury are a great pair and compliment each other very well for me, but that is just me.
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Re: Brunswick question
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2008, 03:52:59 AM »
Ah, O.k., I just looked from the Brunswick's line-up point of view, which tends to be quite even-weighted concerning ball reactions and lane conditions. There's normally a good "gap" between the balls from the same line, and also between the lines unless a lower line features a new stronger piece that "creeps" clsoe to the older higher performance pieces.

But I could see a solid TF being a kind of replacement for the Red Zone?
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