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spencerwatts

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Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« on: February 14, 2015, 08:06:34 AM »

Last week, I was kind of scratching my head about how Brunswick/DV8/Radical bowlers fared in the Touring Players Championship. Now I see that Sean Rash and Ryan Ciminelli made the show for the Tournament of Champions.

One thing that was brought to my attention from last week was that out of a field of 336 bowlers, Brunswick/DV8/Radical was the least represented. It's not as if those numbers changed for the Tournament of Champions, but I'm wondering if it the better showing by Brunswick/DV8/Radical bowlers was a function of how their equipment matched up better in Indianapolis than in Green Bay?

Also cashing this week were Parker Bohn III, Thomas Smallwood, Brian Valenta, and Patrick Dombrowski.
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2015, 09:38:44 AM »
More lefties in play this week on this TOC pattern at Woodland hence you'll see Ciminelli, Rhino Page (non-Big B) and PB III almost made it.  No lefties last week.
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2015, 09:59:03 AM »
More bowlers better odds.  It's a matter of it being worth the $$$$$ to have bowlers on tour. Storm/Roto has some of the biggest names right now. Compared to any other brand the numbers show the results as well. They had the most bowlers in the top 15 last year for money leaders and this year we will see if that repeats again.
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2015, 10:53:53 AM »
It's much more about the talent of the players than anything else. Storm has most of the top players locked up. It's not rocket science.
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2015, 12:47:27 PM »
So you mean to tell me if Belmo was throwing Brunswick or any other company for that matter he would suck because he wasn't rolling Storm/Roto. That's absurd to even consider, I'm sure if he was throwing even a tiny company like Jet he still would be killing it on tour.
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2015, 01:35:59 PM »
WRWjr could win with anything. Most pros can.
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2015, 04:39:35 PM »
Equipment does matter. Fagan was ok with Track, but has won much more with Storm, including internationally. Does matching up matter? Yes. But I can assure you Belmo would not win as much with B products. I also believe that they are holding Rash back. My opinion means as much as a wet fart in a tornado.
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2015, 05:30:21 PM »
agreeing with shop, yea pros can win with any equipment but in reality a lot of the equipment doesn't par up with other companies' equipment. Yea they'll win but the chances and frequency of them winning gonna go down in my opinion
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2015, 06:29:19 PM »
Idk, skill level matters most, but right behind it, increasing ever so much recently is equipment and lane surface/pattern...
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2015, 07:04:12 PM »
Quote from: tkkshop on February 14, 2015, 04:39:35 PM
Equipment does matter. Fagan was ok with Track, but has won much more with Storm, including internationally. Does matching up matter? Yes. But I can assure you Belmo would not win as much with B products. I also believe that they are holding Rash back. My opinion means as much as a wet fart in a tornado.
Bullsh!t. Rash is holding himself down not Brunswick because he is a  mental basketcase on the lanes. Big B has just as a complete lineup as Storm but Storm just has more talent representing them.
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2015, 08:27:20 PM »
You can believe what you want and I will believe what I want. Is Brunswicks lineup better than it has been in years? Yes, but it still isn't ready to dominate. Too much overlap in some places and holes in the rest. Storm moves more bowling balls than any other company in the world. And it's not because of Belmo!
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2015, 09:18:38 PM »
Quote from: bowlingman817 on February 14, 2015, 07:04:12 PM
Quote from: tkkshop on February 14, 2015, 04:39:35 PM
Equipment does matter. Fagan was ok with Track, but has won much more with Storm, including internationally. Does matching up matter? Yes. But I can assure you Belmo would not win as much with B products. I also believe that they are holding Rash back. My opinion means as much as a wet fart in a tornado.
Bullsh!t. Rash is holding himself down not Brunswick because he is a  mental basketcase on the lanes. Big B has just as a complete lineup as Storm but Storm just has more talent representing them.

this is similar to what Barnes said in his interview after leaving columbia. He felt like he didnt match up well with his brand's equipment and didnt like it for awhile. So even pros feel if they throw another brand they'll win more
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2015, 09:36:44 PM »
Ok there is the mastermind line which is excellent and I would put up it up against the crux and the other failures of the top tier line (sync, zero carry sorry zero gravity.) Then there is the fortera line then the melee line then the ringer line and then the strike kings. I'm sorry where are the gaps again?
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2015, 09:52:14 PM »
Just because a company had a line, doesn't mean it's worth throwing. When you have the world's best bowlers, who can hit within 2 boards at 45ft, the tools that they are using matter. I never said your company was a bag of poop, like you're referencing with Storm products. Just that Storm products are indeed better and that Brunswick has some holes to fill. You obviously are too narrow minded to accept this, so I won't waste the time to explain it.
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Re: Brunswick/DV8/Radical T of C
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2015, 09:52:30 PM »
The gaps are in the player lineups on tour. Look at any of the manufacturers on tour compared to Storm/Roto.
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