Post by: MegaMav on December 19, 2006, 02:46:52 PM
My Video (http://"http://fear.fiyawerx.net/pure.avi") ~15.5MB
lets hear it!
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Edited on 12/21/2006 4:10 PM
Post by: SprayNpray on December 19, 2006, 11:08:09 PM
From what I have seen, your "criticism" of others isn't anything for anyone to be upset about. The only people who have a problem are people who don't have enough intesinal fortitude to draw confidence from themselves; they rely on the opinions of others to shape their self-esteem.
While I have seen you make statements of opinion that are often strong, they are nothing disrespectful or rude. Sometimes the truth hurts, people. If you take it too personally, that's a YOU problem.
Again, the fact that you are opening yourself up to a potential sh_t storm of criticism, especially in light of the whole Frank The Tank thread, gets you a little respect in my book.
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Post by: AmfTrack on December 20, 2006, 02:40:07 AM
Post by: Danes07 on December 20, 2006, 02:45:03 AM
I notice that you graduated from the University at Albany....i'm a senior there right now....what house do you bowl in?
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Post by: J_Mac on December 20, 2006, 02:58:46 AM
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Post by: MegaMav on December 20, 2006, 05:32:59 AM
I have been coached by Kenny Hall, former PBA pro and one of his good friends Bill Carl.
that ball rolling out of the return is a Rough Buffed Scorchin Inferno, I was bowling with my buddy Lee from work, he just drilled it up yesterday.
when i put on the rough buff I pushed pretty hard on the spinner, to get it as close to 1000 grit as possible, but it was still too much for the condition.
what you were seeing out there was a pretty straight trajectory due to only a small finger of oil in the middle and HUGE deserts to the front left and right.
i normally dont play that straight and flat, but I had no choice.
Rev it up, cuts over the headpin, throw it out, too much friction and roll out.
That was a combat zone tracer, and it was rolling out from the friction to the outside, thats pretty sad, I felt bad for my buddy, but he enjoyed hooking it 25 boards with his new scorchin.
moved inside and played a tight line, not my A game but just part of what i can do.
I bowl at Boulevard Bowl in Schenectady, NY, in fact im headed there right now for league.
Thanks again for the feedback.
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Post by: Kinalyx on December 20, 2006, 05:55:45 AM
Funnily enough, most people want to turn the ball more, cause it creates area. It seems that lately the more i rev the ball up, the less area i get.
If there is 1 part of your game i would like to get into my game is your finish position. I have a lot of trouble with turning at the line, & falling off at times.
Shawn
Post by: Slopsurprise on December 20, 2006, 09:07:13 AM
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Funnily enough, most people want to turn the ball more, cause it creates area. It seems that lately the more i rev the ball up, the less area i get.
Shawn
I have aquired alot more revs lately and I have noticed the same thing. I have also noticed that your speed and rev rate need to match the condition. Last night I had no room at all until I brought my speed way up. Then I had plenty of room.
Post by: MegaMav on December 20, 2006, 01:50:14 PM
So far I've been plesantly surprised with the positive feedback.
When I bowled with Parker Bohn III last spring he suggested to be more upright at the line, as that would increase leverage.
I have worked on many things he mentioned to me, BUT that part.
Does anyone think this is critical?
Post by: agroves on December 20, 2006, 02:11:26 PM
I agree with PBIII about staying upright at the line. To help you with that, you may want to try being more upright from the beginning. If you get your weight forward during the first two steps, you'll be bending too much at the waist at the line instead of at the knees.
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Post by: LuckyLefty on December 20, 2006, 02:24:35 PM
On here?
REgards,
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Post by: MegaMav on December 20, 2006, 02:31:24 PM
The house I bowled christmas tree on (Non-THS), had a horible wood surface, lane machine wasnt consistent week to week, and the walls on each side of the building were drafty, not making an excuse, but it was hard going for 16 weeks.
Post by: agroves on December 20, 2006, 03:32:47 PM
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Post by: MegaMav on December 20, 2006, 03:38:06 PM
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got it to play finally, not bad, about what I expected , but you must make alot of bad shots to average that low at Boulevard. Are alot of your misses pulls?
Past 5 Weeks ive been averaging close to 220 at boulevard.
carry has been an issue with everyone this season so far.
the gutters seem extra deep, just eating up 6's and 4's.
over/under from little buffing on the pattern.
overall, I plan on finishing strong, ending up around 215.
Post by: MegaMav on December 20, 2006, 03:41:42 PM
Post by: MegaMav on December 20, 2006, 03:47:43 PM
.avi should be opened with windows media player.
.avi has been around for ages, so i figured that would be the safest format.
Post by: Leftyhi-trak on December 20, 2006, 04:40:57 PM
Post by: MegaMav on December 20, 2006, 05:05:25 PM
shoulders over knees, which i thought was increasing leverage.
Post by: MegaMav on December 21, 2006, 01:39:45 PM
Additional comments would be appreciated as well.
Eric
Post by: Djarum on December 21, 2006, 01:52:41 PM
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Post by: themagician on December 21, 2006, 02:05:52 PM
1. You really start with good knee bend but its not there at the line. If you keep the knee bend at the line your in a better position for leverage and a cleaner release.
2. Your timing is late (IMO from not starting hte ball on your first step in a 4 step approach). This could be the cause of #1 but if you are believing that the timing is a problem your way to fix it is pretty easy.
Overall you had a nice solid shot, i'd work on 1 and 2 if I were you but you looked good, I wish i was to that point.
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Post by: walker300 on December 21, 2006, 02:19:07 PM
Are you still bowling there on thurs? We moved to tues nights for the classic league and one team is looking for a bowler. If your interested let me know
Mike Walker
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Post by: MegaMav on December 21, 2006, 02:41:07 PM
im working 2nd shift, so, evening leagues are out of the question for now.
thanks for the info, hope all is well.
Post by: MegaMav on December 21, 2006, 02:42:55 PM
this is something new that ive put into my game.
i didnt notice the pop-up until I saw the video.
thanks for reinforcing what I saw as well, ill be sure to work on it, and post a video again in the near future
Post by: MegaMav on December 21, 2006, 02:45:47 PM
maybe with consistent knee bend, my torso wont lurch forward.
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Post by: MegaMav on December 21, 2006, 08:03:21 PM
That house is Strike n' Spare Lanes in East Greenbush.
AKA Bowling Greens on Route 9/20
Post by: Bjaardker on December 21, 2006, 10:42:23 PM
Nothing special & certainly not at the point where you have the right to rip apart other's game.
Post by: Xfest on December 21, 2006, 10:55:39 PM
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Your timing is late & your shoulders come up at the foul line causing you to lose leverage.
Nothing special & certainly not at the point where you have the right to rip apart other's game.
Funny how you say this when your average is lower than his?
No need to bash him - we all make mistakes and the thing about FTT is pointless - you know everyone else posted like Eric's.
I would love to see your style buddy.
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No need to bash him - we all make mistakes and the thing about FTT is pointless - you know everyone else posted like Eric's.
I never bashed him. I pointed out 2 possible flaws & said that he shouldn't rip on others when his game isn't perfect.
As for my game, There's a reason I'm not a professional. Between physical issues with my knee, and a lack of focus that prevents me from repeating shots, I've reached a plateau in my game.
But the saying goes "Those that can't do, teach". That's me. There's a reason that my league nicknamed me "Da' Coach".
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on December 22, 2006, 11:15:26 AM
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Your timing is late & your shoulders come up at the foul line causing you to lose leverage.
Nothing special & certainly not at the point where you have the right to rip apart other's game.
Funny how you say this when your average is lower than his?
No need to bash him - we all make mistakes and the thing about FTT is pointless - you know everyone else posted like Eric's.
I would love to see your style buddy.
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I've got a 234 average, does this give me the right to critique his game? Eric's style is very safe and lends me to believe that he doesn't get fooled by a condition very often. It's tough to get in too much trouble with a style like that. Combine that form with a little accuracy, and voila! Good job, Eric.
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Post by: MegaMav on December 22, 2006, 11:45:56 AM
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I've got a 234 average, does this give me the right to critique his game? Eric's style is very safe and lends me to believe that he doesn't get fooled by a condition very often. It's tough to get in too much trouble with a style like that. Combine that form with a little accuracy, and voila! Good job, Eric.
thanks John, I appreciate the kind words.
My game has translated very well to other patterns besides THS.
Keeping it simple makes it easier for me to make adjustments without complications.
Now, if I only worked 1st shift, so I can get on that PBA pattern league...
Post by: iamnas22 on December 22, 2006, 02:06:09 PM
Post by: MegaMav on December 22, 2006, 02:37:06 PM
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In todays game it doesn't matter how you get to the line as long as you can repeat it and do it the same way everytime.
the more elements and flaws you put in your approach, the more difficult it will be to repeat the entire approach over a 36 frame set.
Post by: MegaMav on December 22, 2006, 02:41:15 PM
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I honestly thought you'd have been better than that after you made comments about others. Form, approach, swing, and whatever else all vary in bowlers. Just because one form looks worse than the other doesn't meen much. All depends on how you stay consistent with it and practice. I know there are plenty of things I can work on in my game, but I'm not going to bash someone who is trying to get better.
Your username suits you.
Post by: MegaMav on December 22, 2006, 02:45:00 PM
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Especially in a bowling alley as EASY as Boulevard Bowl. Try bowling in Ravena and see what you average.
come on down, play on the 1st shift shot.
all this is becoming is a dickwaiving contest, contribute to the thread constructively, or dont post.
Post by: J_L_B on December 22, 2006, 04:30:33 PM
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I honestly thought you'd have been better than that after you made comments about others. Form, approach, swing, and whatever else all vary in bowlers. Just because one form looks worse than the other doesn't meen much. All depends on how you stay consistent with it and practice. I know there are plenty of things I can work on in my game, but I'm not going to bash someone who is trying to get better.
Your username suits you.
So when someone says you're not as good as they thought you were they are an A**???
Looks like a huge double-standard, especially when you bash Frank and others.
Fact is we are all working on our games, trying to get better.
The forum is getting to the point where no one gets any accurate help because it takes too long to read through all the bashing and nonsense to get to the real help.
Everyone should take a step back and try to be helpful and keep the bashing to a minimum.
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Post by: MegaMav on December 22, 2006, 04:33:49 PM
Post by: J_L_B on December 22, 2006, 04:45:11 PM
Your game is fundamentally fine.
The problem most people have is that when they get on something they are not familiar with, their confidence in their game drops, decision making slows down and second-guessing oneself occurs.
Get out there, get experience, learn to make decisions quicker and trust your instincts.
My experience has been that while I am wasting 3 frames wondering if I made a physical error in my game, the "Real" Pros are making adjustments when they trip a 4 or send a messenger, in order to stay in the pocket longer and carry better.
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Post by: MegaMav on December 22, 2006, 04:52:32 PM
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The best thing I can suggest is just getting out there and bowling on as many conditions as possible.
Your game is fundamentally fine.
The problem most people have is that when they get on something they are not familiar with, their confidence in their game drops, decision making slows down and second-guessing oneself occurs.
Get out there, get experience, learn to make decisions quicker and trust your instincts.
My experience has been that while I am wasting 3 frames wondering if I made a physical error in my game, the "Real" Pros are making adjustments when they trip a 4 or send a messenger, in order to stay in the pocket longer and carry better.
I 100% agree with you, if I didnt work evenings, I would already be in a PBA pattern league during summers.
I dont lose confidence in my game, because I respect the game and understand that I will never master it.
I'm merely a student, looking to learn every time I go out there.
Personally, a straighter game like mine SHOULD translate better across more difficult patterns than big swing boomers, I dont rely on the THS wall, thats probably why I dont put up HUGE scores regularly.
my speed is pretty steady between 15.5 and 16.5 MPH.
my crutch in the past has been my spare game, but I was shooting with resin then for my spares, this season ive been shooting plastic, as I figured that this will only benefit me when patterns get more difficult. 1st half of the season was very trying with plastic, getting used to the straight line without hold on the edges, I'm still gaining confidence in it, spare percentages have been down compared to resin, but shouldnt be long before its back up over 95%+ again
I respect your opinion, and will do my best next season to find a tournament/PBA rotating pattern league.
Thanks,
Eric
Edited on 12/22/2006 5:57 PM
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on December 22, 2006, 05:00:03 PM
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I honestly thought you'd have been better than that after you made comments about others. Form, approach, swing, and whatever else all vary in bowlers. Just because one form looks worse than the other doesn't meen much. All depends on how you stay consistent with it and practice. I know there are plenty of things I can work on in my game, but I'm not going to bash someone who is trying to get better.
His comments towards Frank may have been a tad on the "brutally honest" side. However, he merely stated what 95% of us were thinking. Eric, along with a host of others on this site, have tried to work with Frank over the past few months. Instead, he continues to dump large amounts of money on the lastest "game-in-a-box" release instead of listening to any of the suggestions and ideas that are forwarded his way. Some of the best coaches in the country aren't big average bowlers, but really know their stuff and will find a spot on a competitive team when there's a tournament. Eric may not have the grocery list of honor scores on the resume but I'd bet you a dollar to a doughnut he's not gonna weigh a team down.
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Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on December 22, 2006, 05:07:01 PM
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Post by: iamnas22 on December 22, 2006, 05:28:27 PM
As for my comments, that's what I think. Mega is what a 20? avg bowler. And what is Frank....17? ish? For all of us out there be honest, is it harder to move your average from 170 to 200, or 200 to 230? That's my point. Your form can be horrible and you might not repeat shot after shot, but getting from 170 to 200 just means making more of your spares. Going from 200 to 230 means carrying more strikes. IMHO, Mega is more advanced than Frank, but is someone who averages 230 way more advanced than Mega. It's not right for anyone to bash, whichs sucks about this forum lately.
Post by: iamnas22 on December 22, 2006, 05:30:03 PM
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the more elements and flaws you put in your approach, the more difficult it will be to repeat the entire approach over a 36 frame set.
Don't see many of us averaging 300 on here. Must meen we all have flaws like I was trying to state.
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on December 22, 2006, 05:41:58 PM
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Post by: MegaMav on December 22, 2006, 06:05:18 PM
seriously though, I've RARELY missed the pocket this season, carry has been a real killer, the pins seem dead to everyone I've spoken to about it.
The higher average bowlers in my league, 220+, play straighter on the 1st shift shot.
Control balls are a must in keeping lined up.
John helped me out last week, suggesting playing up the twig to keep away from "the human zamboni", a teammate of mine who 2 finger sprays a black urethane hammer.
257 the first game with my PBA Original Inferno, IT WORKED!
i failed to make the adjustment in the 2nd game, 183.
then got back on track, using carrydown to my advantage with my absolute inferno in the track area for a 223.
there is always something to be learned, sometimes it takes someone else to go over the same idea to make it happen.
thanks go out to John for game planning with me.
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Post by: MegaMav on December 26, 2006, 11:19:26 AM
I usually bowl at boulevard wednesday mornings for league, but a buddy of mine just got his scorchin inferno drilled, so we took it to the closest respectable house, and bowling greens was it, set up the camera and took a short vid, then the battery died.
I would have had more video, maybe ill have more in the future.