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rbarthle17

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cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« on: March 01, 2004, 12:51:16 AM »
What cleaners would you recommend for regular cleaning after each time out? I have Ebonite's Powerhouse Cleaner. It says it's good for particle and resin balls. I use it for my Ebonite Illusion ball. Is this a good choice for the UI as well?

Also I was planning to soak this ball about every 50 games in hot water with a little Dawn in it. It's worked for my Illusion. Any issues doing it here too? And no, I will not bake the ball. I refuse to do that.

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2004, 09:21:53 PM »
Brillo and lighter fluid always works for me.

Seriously, anything you used successfully on other resin balls should be fine on any other resin ball. Use common sense; bowling ball specific cleaners are safest. This isn't rocket science. At least this part isn't.
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Kid Jete

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2004, 09:49:59 PM »
Hook Again is a waste of money IMO.  Just keep doing your dawn and hot water treatment every so often. It accomplishes the same thing for almost no cost.  If a ball hasn't been soaked for a long time just do it twice.  I wipe my ball down with simple green after each time out and that seems to work just fine.  I am not one to spend extra money on ball cleaners when I can use it for practice... I think they call people like me "cheap-asses" lol.
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DON DRAPER

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2004, 10:46:19 PM »
i spoke with tom tomaras of brunswick the other day and he REALLY recommends baking the oil out of brunswick balls---sort of. not in a oven but in a homemade-type oven of sorts. he duct tapes a blow dryer in a cardboard box and puts the ball in and turns on the blow dryer and closes up the box. after 15 minutes takes the ball out and clean it with windex( his words )and paper towels. repeat this 2-3 times or until no more oil comes out. he said he and his co-workers have found this to work VERY well.
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Kid Jete

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2004, 10:53:15 PM »
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rbarthle17, Take what Kidjete says with a grain of salt! His profile says he's only been bowling for 2 month's, I have been in this game for over 25 years and have 15 300's to my credit and 2 800's and I am very experienced with the Ebonite Hook Again system and resurfacing technics and I guarantee absolutely it works to bring back the reactivity by more than 97%! Kidjete Cheap-A**,who knows, (Inexperienced) Definitely!!!!!!!!  



I have only TAKEN bowling seriously for the last couple months.  I have been around it for well over 15 years.  I have always reaad up on different techniques to care for your balls because I always helped out my father when he needed it.  I may be inexperience on the lanes(congrats on all your honor scores by the way, I too hope to have some one day so I can throw them in "inexperienced" peoples faces ) but I know what I'm talking about when it comes to bowling.  If you want to spend 20 bucks on Hook Again that fine.  I'm not saying it doesn't work but soaking is just as tried and true and costs almost nothing.  


BowlingGuy31,

I soak a ball for 20-25 minutes in the hottest tap water we get at home with some dawn dish soap added.  Works everytime.

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Kid Jete

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2004, 10:57:14 PM »
Using a grey scotchbrite in the sink is a good way to change the surface of your ball if it isn't the same grit as the pad.  The whole point to soaking a ball is to get the oil out of the coverstock to renew it.  Like Drrev said... don't use extremely hot water(off the stove) because it can raise the plasticizers.
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Kid Jete

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2004, 11:39:56 PM »
I will probably end up trying it out sometime down the road.  I am definately a cheap azz but I also like to experiment with different technique when I have a few extra $$$ to blow.  I'm not sure I am totally comfortable with leaving a ball in someting for that long of a time... I start to worrying about them in soapy water after 30 minutes lol.
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Kid Jete

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2004, 11:57:01 PM »
LOL np at all!  I am inexperience on the lane so we'll just assume that's what you meant

I can talk bowling witht the best of em, just don't have the greatest game yet.  Although it is slowly getting better
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BowlersAidProShop-Wells

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2004, 12:02:57 AM »
I dont think he's heating the ball on just one side.  If the blow dryer is put into a box, the heat goes all around the ball...... Even still, if he only gets 100 games out of his Ultimate Inferno, thats almost twice as many games as you'll get out of ANY dull ebonite surface, which is exactly why they desperately needed to find their answer, which is Hook Again.
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DON DRAPER

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2004, 09:00:20 PM »
drrev17, if you have a problem with a particular brunswick employee why don't you call him up and have a chat with him ? i was only quoting what he told me, or didn't you notice ? besides, if he and his co-workers have found it to work what's the problem ?
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BowlersAidProShop-Wells

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2004, 12:36:53 AM »
No, I think you just came across as a pompous idiot.  Whether or not its true I suppose will be revealed at a later date.
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Kanazteck

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2004, 04:53:45 PM »
as far as the hook again goes....my proshop has used it 19 times only 2 ppl said it was successful....one guy tried it once it didnt work (the proshop called ebonite to make sure they were doing everything perfect) 2nd time it didnt work.....then he sent the ball to ebonite and when it returned it didnt work...as far as im concerned ebonite just put out a product to help "save" there coverstocks which have also not been that great lately

everyone has their own techniques for saving balls and the only balls ive ever had die on me where particle balls (columbia rock on and richochet have yet again to throw a columbia particle ball)

As far as acetone goes i know numerous ppl who use it, you can say all u want about it these ppl have had the same particle balls for years and use acetone on a regular cleaning basis (about every 25 games)
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BowlersAidProShop-Wells

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2004, 01:47:19 AM »
There's nothing wrong with wiping a ball down with acetone.  You'd have to practically bathe a bowling ball in it to soften the shell to a dangerous degree.  I use acetone all the time, although its generally just to wipe any excess super-glue that may have spilt out around the finger or thumb inserts, I still find its a quick and safe solution to quickly clean any crap off of a ball, including dirt and other junk a ball picks up on its track back from the pinsetters.
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Ishmael

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2004, 08:15:45 AM »
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The trick to using the system is to instead of leaving a ball in for 24 hours to instead leaving it in for 48 hours, this will draw out almost all of the oil and garbage that retards the Particle and reactive ball's from retaining energy for the final 15 feet!



The hook again system is not designed to remove "oil and garbage".  The intent is to remove the build up of plasticizer in the track area.  If you're going to preach it's benefits, you should at least know how it's supposed to work.
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Ishmael

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Re: cleaning Ultimate Inferno
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2004, 08:42:57 AM »
How about listening to Ronald Hickland who is an ebonite employee or reading the article explaining the hook again system in BTM?
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