Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on December 30, 2008, 09:48:10 AM
I turned to the Purple Rhino Pro remake.
The site says it has a low RG and .015 differential with a 2 piece core.
The Chainsaw was .013 with a modified 2 piece.
Just looking at the covers they look to be close to the same.
Would these be pretty close in performance? I have been in the market for something that reacts close to Urethane with a little more hitting power.
I was able to pick up the Rhino for less than $50 shipped, so I hope this will work for me.
Also is there a drilling that could help get the desired reaction I am looking for? This ball has about a 4" pin and 2.5 oz of tw. I am a lefty with average revs and ball speed. Maybe a drilling that would place the pin over my middle finger would smooth it out?
Any help appreciated
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Post by: charlest on December 30, 2008, 06:38:55 PM
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I was looking into purchasing a Lane 1 Chainsaw, and was enticed by the video on Buddies website. However, when I saw the price I was a little turned off so I went searching for something cheaper. Not bashing at all, I just thought a ball made for lighter oil situations would be closer to $100 than $200.
My opinion (no offense intended):
The price of a ball is not related to whether it handles heavy oil or light oil. That is a prejudice we carry with us from manufacturer's use of old balls (and now can be cheaply made) to handle lighter oils.
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I turned to the Purple Rhino Pro remake.
The site says it has a low RG and .015 differential with a 2 piece core.
The Chainsaw was .013 with a modified 2 piece.
Just looking at the covers they look to be close to the same.
(Honestly)
How can you look at a coverstock and tell it resin/chemical composition?
How do they "look" the same or close?
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Would these be pretty close in performance? I have been in the market for something that reacts close to Urethane with a little more hitting power.
I was able to pick up the Rhino for less than $50 shipped, so I hope this will work for me.
It should. It was Brunswick's first resin ball, as far as I have learned. It's low RG differential will produce almost no flare. It's cover should not be as strong as most of today's. It shoudl retail for that $50, but overall associative costs have gone up from the mid 1990s.
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Also is there a drilling that could help get the desired reaction I am looking for? This ball has about a 4" pin and 2.5 oz of tw. I am a lefty with average revs and ball speed. Maybe a drilling that would place the pin over my middle finger would smooth it out?
Sounds reasonable. But I doubt if that ball needs "smoothing out". That drill should make it even milder than a "normal" or "average" drill.
I would also suggest the Visionary Blue/Green Centaur. It is one of the, if not the most even reacting resin balls EVER made, as near as I can tell. I have used it polished and at 1000, 2000 and 4000 grit Abralon. Its carry power is far in excess of expectations.
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Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on December 30, 2008, 06:48:39 PM
What I meant by their covers looking close was that they're both polished and smooth looking solids.
If the Chainsaw would work for me I'd have no problem paying that price for it because if it works, it will pay for itself. The only problem is I don't have the extra money so I am working on a budget and $50 looks a lot better than $160
I will be anxious to see how the Rhino rolls. If it allows me to go straighter like I used to, I will be extremely happy. I think you are correct about the drilling. I am guessing I should put the pin closer to my PAP as the coverstock will already be weak enough for what I want.
Any other suggestions welcomed, and again Charlest thank you for the response!
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Post by: KingofKings696 on December 30, 2008, 08:39:12 PM
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on December 30, 2008, 08:44:28 PM
I am a high tracker, but not sure what my PAP is. I always score better with smooth and even equipment.
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Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on December 30, 2008, 08:55:52 PM
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Post by: FastTracker33 on December 30, 2008, 09:09:35 PM
My Chainsaw was laid out 6 1/2" pin to PAP, CG kicked left, for negative side weight.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/chainsaw.jpg
The way it's laid out forces me to play super straight. The ball goes really long, but doesn't ever flip in the back. It just makes a little arc, enough to demolish the pins. Make sure you're playing in the driest part of the lane to get the best hit possible, also!
Anymore questions, feel free to ask! I'm sure a Blunswick Rhino will also be good, though.
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Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on December 30, 2008, 09:14:19 PM
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In my opinion, I just got a new Chainsaw for Christmas, and it's probably the best 150$ Santa has given to me.
My Chainsaw was laid out 6 1/2" pin to PAP, CG kicked left, for negative side weight.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/chainsaw.jpg
The way it's laid out forces me to play super straight. The ball goes really long, but doesn't ever flip in the back. It just makes a little arc, enough to demolish the pins. Make sure you're playing in the driest part of the lane to get the best hit possible, also!
Anymore questions, feel free to ask! I'm sure a Blunswick Rhino will also be good, though.
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Brian, appreciate the response. I just sold about 12 pieces on eBay and was highly considering taking some of that money and putting it on the Chainsaw, but like I said, less than $50 shipped was looking better to me.
I looked at the picture of your ball, I think there is a problem. The middle finger is much lower than the ring finger. I think you should take it back
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Post by: FastTracker33 on December 30, 2008, 09:15:40 PM
haha. Just kiddin with ya. I'm sure whichever ball you get will allow you to play real straight!PS: I'm right handed.. Maybe that's why you're confused!
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Edited on 12/30/2008 10:17 PM
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on December 30, 2008, 09:30:54 PM
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Post by: smash8-10split on December 30, 2008, 09:31:27 PM
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I think you're going crazy from your Blunswick Rhino! My ring finger is actually much lower than my middle finger.
PS: I'm right handed.. Maybe that's why you're confused!
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Edited on 12/30/2008 10:17 PM
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Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on December 30, 2008, 09:42:27 PM
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/sgc300/PurpleRhinoPro002.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/sgc300/PurpleRhinoPro003.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/sgc300/PurpleRhinoPro001.jpg
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Post by: Juggernaut on December 30, 2008, 09:51:27 PM
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Just incase you thought I was kidding about the "Blunswick" thing.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/sgc300/PurpleRhinoPro002.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/sgc300/PurpleRhinoPro003.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/sgc300/PurpleRhinoPro001.jpg
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Probably one of those rare "japanese" models.
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Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on December 30, 2008, 10:00:24 PM
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Just incase you thought I was kidding about the "Blunswick" thing.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/sgc300/PurpleRhinoPro002.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/sgc300/PurpleRhinoPro003.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/sgc300/PurpleRhinoPro001.jpg
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Probably one of those rare "japanese" models.
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I should list it on eBay under RARE Japanese Model and see if I can sell it for big bucks!
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Post by: BeansProShop on January 02, 2009, 12:02:23 AM
FASTtracker actually bowled a Ball Review Day and tried this ball that was actually drilled for LEFTY testers and he loved the reaction.
I have actually drilled (4) Chainsaws with this negative CG shift after people have thrown them.
PS.....
Does CGmaddah??
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Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on January 17, 2009, 04:04:48 PM
I decided to go with my gut and punch up my bLunswick Purple Rhino Pro to see what it could do and hoped it would give me what I was looking for. Sadly, I purchased some of the new KR Brunswick black tape and it's horrible, so I had to wait to find some Ebonite tape. The difference 5 pieces rather than 9.
Anyways, I drilled it with the pin above and to the left of my ring finger, with the cg stacked below just below the grip midline.
---p---
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--cg-----
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Drilling looks like that. Anyways, I haven't thrown the Lane 1 Chainsaw, so I can't compare the two, but the PRP Remake is exactly what I wanted. A ball I can move left with and play up the boards on high friction surfaces.
While I do feel I have a small gap between my Hy-Road and PRP, for THS league shots, I feel this is a very solid 1-2 combo.
I threw 4 games with it during open bowling just to see what it could do. We got on the lanes right after the Friday night league ended, so there was some oil out there. Long and smooth. Not a super hard turn on the back, but a nice smooth arc shape, and that's all I could ask for. It gives me the reaction shape of a Urethane with the hitting power of reactive. This was a good guess when looking to add a ball like this to my bag.
Like I said earlier, I never did throw the Chainsaw, but if you were looking for a ball that would work on high friction area, or when the lanes dry out, the Purple Rhino Pro Remake is not a bad choice.
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