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C-G ProShop-Carl

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Danger Zone 2 carbide
« on: July 05, 2003, 09:24:16 AM »
OK guys/gals, help me out a bit. I just acquired one of these in a trade, it is NIB. I am not a big fan of Big B.....so please, help me pick a layout that is good to use on this ball.

I want it to fit just below my Track Mutant and just above my Track Freak Out.

Mutant is drilled for heavy oil, and the Freak out is drilled for length but with an arc backend.

Suggestions?
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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2003, 04:46:55 PM »
Kinda looks like you stumped the forum with this one.  Too bad, because I have a DZ II Carbide on the way, and I was hoping to get some ideas from someone who has thrown one.

From the core alone, I'd expect a Zone-like roll but with less early flare, which is pretty much what I get from my SmashR and Frenzy (which use similar cores).  However, I know nothing about the Carbide cover, or even whether it's the same Carbide that is used on the Lane #1 equipment.

Anyone have more information?
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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2003, 04:42:08 AM »
Excaliber,

This is the oddest thing. Wednesday night I stopped at my pro shop before bowling and what to my surprise, he had a just gotten in a whole bunch of these suckers!! I was shocked, to say the least. Parker Bohn, whose home house this is, practiced with one of the pro shop guys, Gary (not my driller), on Tuesday, the day before, and said he loved this ball and it was on the very aggressive side. I didn't get a chance to see Gary use on Wednesday, as he said he was, but I saw him in the 3rd game (5 game singles scratch, moving to a diff pair each game), and he already put it away in favor of his Inferno.

He said it was a similar resin base to the Raging Red and the Inferno (This is what he said; I find this hard to believe.), but with a light load of particles, as bowling ball reviews says, and it gets a lot of length. I couldn't believe he was using it in this league as I have been using a Red/Black Monster here.

That's all I have as of right now.


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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2003, 09:32:42 AM »
What is this ball?  I've never heard of a Danger Zone with the appellation "Carbide" attached to it before.  I just looked on the Brunswick site to make sure I wasn't completely out of the loop, but it isn't on there.


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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2003, 09:40:11 AM »
Is it this ball you are discussing:

http://www.brunswickbowling.com/consumer/Products/prod_detail.cfm?prod_id=279

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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2003, 09:41:49 AM »
quote:
What is this ball?  I've never heard of a Danger Zone with the appellation "Carbide" attached to it before.  I just looked on the Brunswick site to make sure I wasn't completely out of the loop, but it isn't on there.


Shiv


Sorry; we've passed that point in the discussion on another thread, so I thought people were already familiar with the silly thing.
Go to bowling ball reviews, go into OVERSEAS balls, search for Danger Zone. You'll come up with this:
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=1862

On EBay they calling them, Danger Zone International 2.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3616992726&category=20848
(Just search bowling for "Danger Zone".


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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2003, 09:45:13 AM »
quote:
Is it this ball you are discussing:

http://www.brunswickbowling.com/consumer/Products/prod_detail.cfm?prod_id=279

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YES!, the search master does it again!
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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2003, 09:49:12 AM »
Thanks guys.  That one had escaped my notice.

On the link provided by jensm, the low RG is listed as 2.441 and the high RG is listed as 2.582, for a whopping differential of 0.141!  Of course, that's illegal, so one of the RG figures must be wrong.  I wonder which one?  From the look of the core diagram, I'd guess that the 2.441 is wrong and should be 2.541.  Just guessing.

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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2003, 10:01:19 AM »
shiv,

Since B'wick says it's a low RG, I have to assume the higher one is wrong.
2.441 + .041 = 2.481 is my guess for the higher RG, which is still very low.

The more I look at the specs and Brunswick's assesment of the ball (hook, length, breakpoint), the more I think this can replace the generally poor selling and much more expensive Eliminator. (Just compared the specs and assessment; it IS the overseas and cheaper ELiminator.)
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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2003, 12:02:32 PM »
Yes Charlest, the Danger Zone II and the Fuze Eliminator do look similar. It's confusing really since I cannot recall seeing this Zone in Swedish pro-shops. And now it's available in the US. Are there any Brunswick insiders in this Forum who can clarify?

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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2003, 12:40:04 PM »
charlest,

Who is the Parker Bohn you are talking about? Are you sure this person knows what they are talking about????:>0
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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2003, 01:42:37 PM »
quote:
charlest,

Who is the Parker Bohn you are talking about?

Parker Bohn III, the PBA bowler, who's won 20 titles.

quote:

Are you sure this person knows what they are talking about????:>0


Which part are you referring to?


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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2003, 01:45:53 PM »
charlest.....that was sarcasm BTW. If he says a ball is good or he likes it, then it is probably a good ball. If he says it is strong, this it has to be strong.
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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2003, 02:03:39 PM »
quote:
charlest.....that was sarcasm BTW. If he says a ball is good or he likes it, then it is probably a good ball. If he says it is strong, this it has to be strong.



Sorry, your smiley face icon did not display on my terminal/PC.

I am a regular sub at Parker's home house this Summer; I'm kind of annoyed I missed him Tuesday.

Side Note:
One time in the late 198os I was there when he had just or was thinking of joining the PBA, he knew/knows his home house VERY well. Anyway, a local hot shot, a very young man, challenged Parker to a match; the kid picked the pair of lanes. Parker picked up his Columbia Blue Dot, went down the 2nd board, the ball hanging over the gutter, as it does when it rides this close. Parker shot two 300s in a row, the kid shut-up, never said another word, packed his bags up and went home. Even then, you never challenged Parker unless you didn't know him.

Yes, I assume he knows what he's talking about ...

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Re: Danger Zone 2 carbide
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2003, 01:40:59 PM »
quote:
Since B'wick says it's a low RG, I have to assume the higher one is wrong.
2.441 + .041 = 2.481 is my guess for the higher RG, which is still very low.



Just got my DZ II Carbide, so I decided to take a look at the drill sheet.  It says that the low RG is 2.541, and the high RG is 2.582.  This makes sense, given that the core is *very* similar to that of the SmashR and Frenzy.
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