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bowler100

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Fanatic BTU does ZERO for me. Bad match up?
« on: December 11, 2019, 05:56:26 PM »
I really don't understand this ball. It has almost ZERO movement on every single condition that I have bowled on including high friction house conditions. It looks like it skates through the heads like a resin and tries to read the friction and than decides to "wiggle" instead of making any kind of move. Sure, I did not expect much movement out of the ball to begin with but when my polished Black Hammer (1983 version) actually has considerably more movement than my BTU (polished as well) than something is wrong. Should I just toss it in the garbage?

 

Brandon Riley

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Re: Fanatic BTU does ZERO for me. Bad match up?
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2019, 06:42:05 PM »
Sounds like you need more bowling ball in your hands for the patterns you are seeing
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Re: Fanatic BTU does ZERO for me. Bad match up?
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2019, 10:47:43 PM »
I decided to make an adjustment with my hand. I was rolling the ball more off the pads of the fingers rather than the sides of the fingers (lowering my axis tilt). My axis rotation actually went up while my tilt went down. Keep in mind that my hand is cocked way on the inside of the ball before release, the only difference is what my hand does at release.

All of a sudden, I get that "tame" resin shape on the backend. It will still go virtually 60 feet on oil and carrydown, but it is actually performing exactly as expected on friction. It seems that certain balls do not roll right with my normally high axis tilt despite having about 425+ RPMS. Strange but interesting observation.   

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Re: Fanatic BTU does ZERO for me. Bad match up?
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2019, 06:16:13 AM »
This is exactly what I'm seeing with my Statement Solid. Nothing with normal release, yet off the sides of my fingers it's the monster it is supposed to be. I've been trying to analyze it... Isn't that a layout issue since the core is in a different position at release?

Is your Fanatic drilled identical to your other equipment?

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Re: Fanatic BTU does ZERO for me. Bad match up?
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2019, 01:30:44 PM »
This is exactly what I'm seeing with my Statement Solid. Nothing with normal release, yet off the sides of my fingers it's the monster it is supposed to be. I've been trying to analyze it... Isn't that a layout issue since the core is in a different position at release?

Is your Fanatic drilled identical to your other equipment?
Yes, it is a 70 X 5 X 70 layout. Based on a PAP that is 3 7/8 over and 1 up.

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Re: Fanatic BTU does ZERO for me. Bad match up?
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2019, 06:37:21 AM »
I have a BTU. It's about a little  more than a Tropical Breeze. Maybe more upfront. It's weaker than cyclone. Way stronger than any true urethane.

It'll hook a lot on backend end, under the right conditions. Its skid phase is longer than a urethane, so won't roll at your feet. It has a long hook phase, and then can snap off of that, but that depends on conditions.

It is a reactive ball.

As far as balling up to a twist, I haven't thrown that, but it's a little weaker than cyclone, comparable to Motiv's Covert Tank in some ways.

If you have a 425 rev rate, then will not have any trouble getting it to move.

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Re: Fanatic BTU does ZERO for me. Bad match up?
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2019, 05:56:10 PM »
I have a BTU. It's about a little  more than a Tropical Breeze. Maybe more upfront. It's weaker than cyclone. Way stronger than any true urethane.

It'll hook a lot on backend end, under the right conditions. Its skid phase is longer than a urethane, so won't roll at your feet. It has a long hook phase, and then can snap off of that, but that depends on conditions.

It is a reactive ball.

As far as balling up to a twist, I haven't thrown that, but it's a little weaker than cyclone, comparable to Motiv's Covert Tank in some ways.

If you have a 425 rev rate, then will not have any trouble getting it to move.
Reducing my axis tilt made a HUGE difference. The BTU certainly has a long and slow hook window. The only ball with a longer hook window than the BTU is true urethane and polyester (obviously much more gradual response to friction).