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Title: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: Sikfish on February 22, 2007, 01:25:54 AM
It appears now that bowlingball.com will not be shipping until next monday........................
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: boycer11 on February 22, 2007, 09:57:43 AM
Went to a near by pro shop yesterday and they had just received 8 15 lbs and 2 16.  Going to get mine probably Friday or Saturday.
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: Strapper_Squared on February 22, 2007, 10:01:23 AM
I ordered one from cheap bowlingballs.com and it was shipped yesterday...

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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: bruns300 on February 22, 2007, 10:06:30 AM
Weve had them in the shop since tuesday
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Post by: Deathclutch on February 22, 2007, 10:10:22 AM
Drilled mine yesterday.
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: BrunsNick on February 22, 2007, 10:24:13 AM
It's okay to buy from Pro Shops, ya know?

I got 5 cases in Monday, and they are selling for 174.95, drilling/grips/slug included.


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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: RSalas on February 22, 2007, 10:25:00 AM
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It's okay to buy from Pro Shops, ya know?


Now why would I ever want to do *that?*  
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on February 22, 2007, 10:31:59 AM
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It's okay to buy from Pro Shops, ya know?

I got 5 cases in Monday, and they are selling for 174.95, drilling/grips/slug included.


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That's a pretty solid price point for that ball.  You certainly won't have too much difficulty seeding the market at that price.
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: MIBowler on February 22, 2007, 10:42:32 AM
i drilled mine up last night, better order some polish now!
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: boycer11 on February 22, 2007, 10:44:01 AM
Why do pro shops charge so much more than on-line?  Do you guys just buy on-line and take the ball in to have it drilled or just tell them what you can get it for on-line?
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: BrunsNick on February 22, 2007, 10:46:55 AM
Why are we so much? Because we include drilling and other perks when you buy from us.

We're here to make MONEY, but will bend over backwards for our customers.

Just like why is dyno tuning $150/hr? Why so much? Well, if the mechanic is that skilled in his trade, its WORTH IT.
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: boycer11 on February 22, 2007, 10:55:51 AM
Nick,  sorry didn't mean to step on your toes.  I am buying it from the pro shop but they are wanting $209 plus plugs and grips. I am hoping the service they provide to make sure the ball is done right for me will make it worth the differnce in price.

So maybe I should be buying from you instead. ;-)  

Mark
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: Coleman on February 22, 2007, 10:56:05 AM
Boycer11 think about the price you pay online. Say you buy a Fury from bowling.com  it's about $130 shipped.  Ok now add another 50 for drilling.  I picked 50 because thats what most shoppes around me charge. Then say you want grips and a slug if thats not included it could be another 10 to 20 bucks.  so now before grips and a slug you were at 180.  Add grips and slug your around 200 bucks.  If you do the math a lot of the times a pro shop with competitive price to the internet is pretty close if not better then online sites.  I'm not saying the internet is terrible I'm just saying do the math.  I don't mind if someone brings a ball from the internet to get drill I'll charge him the same thing that is already included in the price of a ball I have selling on the wall.
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: Gunny on February 22, 2007, 10:58:57 AM
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Why are we so much? Because we include drilling and other perks when you buy from us.

We're here to make MONEY, but will bend over backwards for our customers.

Just like why is dyno tuning $150/hr? Why so much? Well, if the mechanic is that skilled in his trade, its WORTH IT.


heck, i wish my dyno tune was that cheap!!!  250/hour...and thank god they got it tuned in just a short number of pulls.  at least at the shop you know all specs will be in line and what you want.  although i did have some good luck with the online shops, but a few had some off-center cg's.  but overall turned out to be the same price.  lets see, $135 for the ball online...you take to shop to get drilled..$30bucks...finger inserts $15bucks..total price $180.  so all in all, I have done both and now that i work at a pro shop, i understand why it is much better to purchase from one.  cheers!!!  and let us know after you get it drilled how it is.
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: boycer11 on February 22, 2007, 10:59:10 AM
Thanks for the info.  I live in the midwest and the last ball I had drilled was only $25, course I wasn't happy with how the ball reacted at all, so trying a new pro shop.
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: ShoreLefty on February 22, 2007, 11:01:24 AM
Not too mention if you buy from a reputable shop they will take care of the ball if something happens i.e. cracks in which case they probably have one in stock and they will drill it up.  At least I do for my customers.  If you buy from the internet, the shop doesn't garunteee them, then you have to deal with the online site and go back and forth between them.  Personally, I have been on both sides of the counter, which is why I try to be competitive witht he internet.  After shipping, drilling, slugs, and grips, I am damn close.  And I still have people bring me internet balls to drill.
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: Sikfish on February 22, 2007, 11:02:49 AM
I drill my own equipment at my local center. It saves me the money to buy on line and then no cost to drill. Have saved some good money over the years.
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: boycer11 on February 22, 2007, 11:03:47 AM
How would you recommend it being drilled?  Using the ball for league nights, oil is med/heavy to heavy, I am a stroker with low revs. I currently have a Rampage that I basically cant use because it goes straight as an arrow. I believe pin is under ring finger and usually use a Columiba U-turn non-partical w/ pin over ring finger that I do get some action out of.  

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on February 22, 2007, 11:08:08 AM
Thread hijack post threshold exceeded.  Please begin a new thread.
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: 700Virgin on February 22, 2007, 03:41:36 PM
Buy from your local proshop if you want to keep a local proshop!
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: BeansProShop on February 23, 2007, 05:55:26 AM
I will not send balls back for warranty that weren't bought from my shop or the local shops around my area. The kicker is, I also sell online....I don't sell much current stuff though if any!!! You can't replace the service from a good pro shop.  Also, If you bring a ball in my shop to be drilled from the internet. You get measured and drilled..... No watching you throw the ball or recommending a layout. A straight label drill is what you get. For an additional $30 you get all the shop perks. OR----You buy the ball from me and I watch you...Find your PAP. and recommend a ball and/or layout to suit what you are looking for.  SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SHOPS!!!!!!!!!1


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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on February 23, 2007, 06:55:23 AM
I don't know about others, but around here they charge $50 for a blank drill (no inserts, they are extra).  How long does it typically take an experienced ball driller to punch out a ball?  I would say thirty minutes tops.  So they are making $50 (99% of that is all profit mind you) for 30 minutes worth of work.  Not bad.  Oh, by the way, my local proshop owner/operator will take the extra few minutes to watch a bowler if they are new to his shop and he will always recommend a layout unless you are set on a particular one and tell him up front.  Some people on here act like if you don't buy the ball from your local shop, they are losing all of this money and what not.  Yeah right.  My ball driller will tell you that he makes most of his money off of blank drills, Target Zones, Power Grooves, and he is doing just fine.  In fact, he stays so busy, that I usually have to make an appt. in order to ensure that he can get to mine that day.
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: Bigmike on February 23, 2007, 08:05:19 AM
Guys if it was as easy as you make it out to sound, then everyone would be doing it.

I will be the first to admit that I have experience in drilling and fitting along with ball motion, but would never go into a shop where I have no relationship and expect them to compromise their prices for me. If we were able to strike up a relationship and a discounted service was offered, then maybe.

Now keep in mind that I layout most of my stuff, supply my own grips, and do all of the finishing work including weighing and weight hole location, size, and depth. I also give credit where it is due and tell anyone who will listen where I get my stuff drilled at.

Once I do that a few times, most pro shop operators are glad to let me come in and pay the blank cost and go at it. I am the type of customer who has stood out on the sales floor and spoken to customers while my driller is finishing with one of my balls in effect keeping the dialogue open and keeping them in the store while they wait for service. It's called "walking the walk".

Now if you ran a store, who would you be more inclined to give discounted service to; Someone who actually "earns" the privledge of a discount or someone who comes in and "expects" a break on price, but top shelf service?

Sorry to sidetrack. I just get frustrated with people who buy online, then gripe about having to pay the advertised price for drilling and then question the price. I am sure the Fury's will get sent out and be a quality ball since Brunswick makes good products.
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: KingCranker on March 07, 2007, 11:47:34 AM
my buddy drilled his tuesday and let me tell you its a dull ball,we applied beans secret sauce and ohh my what a difference,ball looks pearl,it has pretty colors all through it that cannot be noticed OOB finish,we will post his results soon.

thank ya Beans,

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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: boycer11 on March 07, 2007, 11:55:02 AM
Shops around me don't seem to be as helpful as you guys are.  I have to find a shop that is more helpful, but I also don't like jumping from shop to shop. I have bought from two different shops and neither watched how I threw the ball before drilling it for me.


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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: DT on March 07, 2007, 01:43:50 PM
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Shops around me don't seem to be as helpful as you guys are.  I have to find a shop that is more helpful, but I also don't like jumping from shop to shop. I have bought from two different shops and neither watched how I threw the ball before drilling it for me.


I'll second that!  Before I found this site and got a little education I thought all my Pro-shop owner was supposed to do was measure my span and drill my ball, Because thats all my guy ever did.  I've bought THREE balls from him and not once did he watch me bowl or ask about my PAP.  He says " You throw a hook right?, heres your ball"  
Anyone know any good drillers in Connecticut?
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: shelley on March 07, 2007, 01:51:29 PM
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It's okay to buy from Pro Shops, ya know?

I got 5 cases in Monday, and they are selling for 174.95, drilling/grips/slug included.


If I could get prices like that here, I'd be in every month.  But $230+ for last year's high-end ball, you can forget it.

If one in ten balls cracks, and I save $75+ buying last year's ball online (even after drilling), I'd just as soon throw it in the trash.  It will still be cheaper, even if the online shop doesn't want to honor the warranty.  My experience says I get the same "You want it to go long and turn hard?" service whether I buy in the shop or off the Internet.

SH
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: BrunsNick on March 07, 2007, 02:04:35 PM
Sounds like you need to get into a more populated area. Here in So Cal, getting 230 for a ball would be a dream.

We are practically sold out of the original 20 Furys we bought, they moved pretty quick at that price.
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: shelley on March 07, 2007, 02:39:33 PM
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Sounds like you need to get into a more populated area. Here in So Cal, getting 230 for a ball would be a dream.


No doubt.  The shop here wants $230 for a high-end ball from any company.  Lane 1, Lanemasters, Brunswick, Storm, Ebonite,...  Drilling is included, but grips will run you pretty close to $30.  After the 15% league discount, it's still about $240 with tax.  And the 15% league discount is only on the high end balls.  Want to save money buying a BVP?  $175.  Plus $30 for grips.  As great as the Wizard, Rampage, and Mammoth may be, I ain't paying $200+ for one.

Choices are pretty limited.  There's a bowling alley in Meridian (central MS) that's about an hour and a half away, one in Tupelo (where Rudy Kasimakis lives) that's a little over an hour away but it's run by the same guys as the shop here.  Probably a few in Jackson, MS, about two hours away.  I drive two hours to my shop; my wife has family in that town so it's not just for bowling.  I wish there were more choices, but that just won't happen (probably has more than a little to do with why his prices are so frickin' high)

SH
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: FastTracker33 on March 07, 2007, 02:42:57 PM
drillin mine tonight will report some results
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: 61hawks on March 07, 2007, 03:31:35 PM
well everyone I have been reading ballreviews for quite some time and have never bothered to speak up but now I just have to say something about the prices you guys are talking about. where I live in western Canada it costs 270 dollars for the fury and on top of that 65 dollars for drilling. well with prices like that I travel to Spokane about 9 hours away once a year and see Dan Kukuk at Lilac Lanes. great service,great ball driller;could not ask for more except maybe being closer to spokane.
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: boycer11 on March 07, 2007, 06:22:30 PM
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well everyone I have been reading ballreviews for quite some time and have never bothered to speak up but now I just have to say something about the prices you guys are talking about. where I live in western Canada it costs 270 dollars for the fury and on top of that 65 dollars for drilling. well with prices like that I travel to Spokane about 9 hours away once a year and see Dan Kukuk at Lilac Lanes. great service,great ball driller;could not ask for more except maybe being closer to spokane.


Now that is some dedication!!  

I don't mind paying the price as long as they are willing to work with me and help me get better. If they just drill a ball for you and say here you go without explaining anything to you that is what stinks.
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: ChrispyBrownies on March 07, 2007, 06:48:22 PM
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Why are we so much? Because we include drilling and other perks when you buy from us.

We're here to make MONEY, but will bend over backwards for our customers.

Just like why is dyno tuning $150/hr? Why so much? Well, if the mechanic is that skilled in his trade, its WORTH IT.
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Well put Nick. My coach runs a pro shop and charges over $210 for a top of the line ball, and when you buy it from him, drilling is free. When you dont, drilling is $70+slug slug and grips. Usually is around $85 after everything. Granted, now that I work in a bowling alley, i dont go to him anymore, but I did for a long time knowing other places that were a lot cheaper. But because he knew me and my style, and he knew the game itself from every perspective, i still went to him. If i threw a stright ball and wanted an Elite Alien cause it was cool looking, anybody at a pro shop would tell me the truth. He would say what was right for me and what wasnt.  
Pro shops arent trying to rip you off, just trying to offer the right services. Anybody can grab a power drill and shove it into a bowling ball. duh.

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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: shepd1999 on March 08, 2007, 04:21:01 AM
Wow I paid $215 for my FURY. Plus my pro shop guy decided not to charge me for the plugging of my OI and redrill. I guess his prices are not that bad.
Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: Borincano on March 08, 2007, 10:25:47 AM
Went to Memphis to my state tournament and bought a NIB FURY for $179.98 drilled with grips and slug. Bought another NIB Fury in the internet from another person for $119.95 which I will have it drilled with another layout. The FURY is the best kept secret of the new bowling balls. The NV and TNV are far behind from the Fury. I threw my Fury for the first time yesterday and it was impresive. Friends watching me throw the Fury will say, "How did that come back? It was way out there and just banged the pocket." The four games that I threw were over the 210's just testing the different areas in the approach. I need to practice more with this ball and use it next week in my league night.

The ball loves to flare. It will come back with 7 to 9 rings of oil with about 3/8 to 1/2 inch of separation.

Layout is:  -
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The Fury for Brunswick is going to be a classic. Better than the original Danger Zone.

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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: cnimsk on March 08, 2007, 10:44:01 AM
I still rather buy from a pro shop...it costs more but if there is a problem you know where to take it to get a resolution. Yes you can get a better price on line for the bowling ball...but to that price you have to add...in my case $54 dollars and with that the price buying at a proshop is about $30 dollars more. That's not that bad. Call it insurance.

Chuck
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Post by: Draxond300 on March 08, 2007, 05:49:36 PM
The shop I go to makes it worth buying off the internet.

His prices are high, and don't include drilling.

I was in there Tuesday for a lesson and I was scoping out prices.  He had a No Mercy sitting on the rack for $209, without drilling (which is 45 in shop for grips and slug, 60 if brought in from elsewhere).  So, add in his drilling, and you're looking at $250 for something you could get $190 if you bought it online.

I'm almost afraid to see what his price for the Fury is.
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Title: Re: Fury.........delayed again.
Post by: themagician on March 08, 2007, 05:55:27 PM
Man I feel my shop runs high on the high end balls, 189 before tax (grips 10, slug 10 on top) for a Fury or high end Storm, Ebo, Hammer, Columbia, Dyno, Track, Brunswick, or Roto ball.

But BVP's are 150 drilled with grips and slug and lower end balls are 120 drilled with grips and a slug.


Btw the Fury has been selling well at my shop and is really a strong ball in box, over half of the people that got one have brought em back for polish.
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